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anyone seen this months junior magazine-peadiatric nutritionist says she 'draws the line' at breastfeeding two-yaer-old

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violeteyes · 11/10/2007 10:41

weird letter written in with someone claiming to be worried that a friend was still bfeeding her two-year-old! expert really quite derogatory, as well as above, said that was bad for mothers health; setting herself up for problems later;not nutritionally any value......
although she said she supported breastfeeding up to six months and no specific cut off was advised, the implication was that 6 months should be it
i was really shocked at the tone of the reply

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SaintJude · 11/10/2007 22:23

Its a fantastic letter

May I plagiarise it for my letter???

LittleBellaLugosi · 11/10/2007 22:24

Gosh, a pediatric nutritionist talking bollocks about breastfeeding? Imagine my surprise.

And yet it ought to be a surprise. Sigh.

incogneato · 11/10/2007 22:26

that really is a fricking great letter.

smallwhitecat · 11/10/2007 22:27

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LittleBellaLugosi · 11/10/2007 22:28

It is amazing, isn't it, SWC?

How is it possible? What is going on?

incogneato · 11/10/2007 22:29

because no-one really cares about bf tbh except us weirdoes .
most HCP weren't bf themselves. they don't see the benefit.

workstostaysane · 11/10/2007 22:31

I got applause on MN!!! woo hoo.
I've never written to a magazine before. I wonder if they'll publish some of it?
And St jude, please plagiarise (sp?) as much as you like.

smallwhitecat · 11/10/2007 22:32

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PillockInThePumpkin · 11/10/2007 22:33

have just read it and was shocked and quite pissed off

hunkermunker · 11/10/2007 22:34

WTSS, that's a great letter!

blazingsandals · 11/10/2007 22:35

Good one Workstostaysane, I wrote something similar:

Dear Dr Crabtree

In a recent letter you wrote:
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"Q. A friend of mine who still breastfeeds here two-year old son insists that this is the best way to nourish a child. Is this OK?
A. You don't say whether your friend is exclusively breastfeeding her sone, or whether he eats solids as well. I advocate the benefits of breastfeeding, but draw the line for a two year old. I'm sure your friend has the best intentions, but I think she could be creating problems for herself.
Breast milk is perfect for babies - it provides the optimal amount of nutrients and allows the mother to pass on antibodies that can help reduce the chance of her baby developing infections and allergies. However, once a baby is six months old, milk alone will not meet all their nutritional requirements. Milk is also quite low in iron and, as the baby's stores of iron will have depleted by siz months, other sources will need to be introduced.
Babies are ready to move onto solids by six months, plus they need to develop the hand and eye coordination needed to get food into their mouth. Eating is also important in developing their speech as it helps them learn how to form sounds.
Breastfeeding is also detrimental to the mother's health, as the calcium required for milk not only comes from the stores in her bones, buy also her diet. The nutritional benefits of breast milk will also be insignificant, as he is unlikely to be taking large volumes. He will aslo have a good set of teeth by now, so she may have been nipped a few times too!"
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Your advice is prejudicial and plain WRONG. If you would care to actually learn the FACTS relating to breastfeeding you would discover that not only is there nothing wrong with breastfeeding a two year old but actually it's a really good thing in terms of protecting his health and indeed that of the mother (in terms of reducing risks of female cancers).

Of course you can't exclusively breastfeed with no other food till the age of two - such a fact would have been picked up in routine health screening and in any case, few mothers would have been able to stop little hands grabbing food from the table. But apart from that your comments are ridiculous. I'm surprised you call yourself an expert when clearly you are nothing of the sort in this area.

I am breastfeeding a one year old, alongside feeding her a range of healthy foods. Compared to her formula fed friends, she is healthier, and according to recent blood tests (taken as part of a vaccine trial) has very healthy iron levels.

Breastfeeding beyond six months is not helped by foolish so-called expert advice, which runs contrary to the WHO guidelines and which actually seems to reflect more your personal prejudices than any facts.

I will NEVER buy Junior Magazine again and am forwarding this email to all my friends at the toddler group to encourage them to follow suit.

SaintJude · 11/10/2007 22:38

oooh lovely.....

hunkermunker · 11/10/2007 22:38

BS, good point that it reflects her personal prejudices. That's a common thread with many HCPs, I think. And media as well.

Astrophe · 11/10/2007 22:38

The magazine really shouldhave to account for its nonsense. Makes me so ANGRY!

Conversation btween me and GP wen I needed Antibiotics.

Me: I'll need some which are safe for BFing
GP: Oh, good for you -how old is your baby?
Me: 11 months.
GP: Oh. You know you can stop at 6 months?
Me: What?
GP: Oh, are you going 'til a year then?
Me: I don't know how long I'll feed, but I don't pan to stop at 1 year.

Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!!!

DS is still going strong at 19 months!

I have also has whole conversations with HVs bout feeding where they are assumung I'm bottle feeding, and I am assuming that they assume I am BFing - its so bizare.

SaintJude · 11/10/2007 23:03

i've fired this off. I thought you should see it WTSS since I have plagiarised it terribly

I've just read the response to a letter printed in the November issue of Junior magazine. Your columnist, Dr Elaine Crabtree, gave a misleading, prejudiced and wholly incorrect answer to the letter asking about breastfeeding a toddler. I have copied some of the content of this letter from a friend who has also written to you because it contains all the pertinent references which I believe need emphasising. I have included some further references.

There are numerous studies (mainly from the American Association of Pediatrics and the World Health Organisation) which show that breastfeeding a child beyond the age of 1 has significant benefits for mother and child.

The American Academy of Family Physicians notes that children weaned before two years of age are at increased risk of illness (AAFP 2001).

The World Health Organization emphasises the importance of nursing up to two years of age or beyond (WHO 1992, WHO 2002).

The American Academy of Pediatrics recommends that "Breastfeeding should be continued for at least the first year of life and beyond for as long as mutually desired by mother and child... Increased duration of breastfeeding confers significant health and developmental benefits for the child and the mother... There is no upper limit to the duration of breastfeeding and no evidence of psychological or developmental harm from breastfeeding into the third year of life or longer." (AAP 2005)

There is no evidence anywhere to suggest that 'breastfeeding is detrimental to the mothers health'. In fact, breastfeeding reduces the risk of uterine cancer, breast cancer and ovarian cancer. Breastfeeding also protects against osteoporosis (due to the effects breastfeeding has on menses). It does not cause it as suggested by Dr Crabtree.
It is also worth noting that healthy, full-term babies have enough iron stores in their bodies to last for at least the first six months. The current research indicates that a baby's iron stores should last between six and twelve months, depending upon the baby. The iron in breastmilk is better absorbed than that from other sources. The vitamin C and high lactose levels in breastmilk aid in iron absorption. Additionally, in a study, done by Pisacane in 1995, the researchers concluded that babies who were exclusively breastfed for 7 months (and were not give iron supplements or iron-fortified cereals) had significantly higher hemoglobin levels at one year than breastfed babies who received solid foods earlier than seven months. The researchers found no cases of anemia within the first year in babies breastfed exclusively for seven months and concluded that breastfeeding exclusively for seven months reduces the risk of anemia.

The opinion that a mother may be bitten while breastfeeding not based on any research and is of no concern to anyone but the mother, and simply displays further ignorance from Dr Crabtree, who it would seem has little or no experience of ?extended? breastfeeding.

It may be that Dr Crabtree is referring in her answer to mothers exclusively breastfeeding toddlers and offering no other foods. If this is the case, she should be advising extreme medical intervention as this is clearly not recommended by any health authority, however, her comments regarding the lack of volume of milk which = little or no nutritional value indicates that this is not what she meant at all. Either way, her response was both ill-informed and lazy. Would she suggest not giving cows milk to a 2+ year old either? I?m not entirely sure what the difference is (apart from one being human milk, and one being cows milk).

Dr Crabtree owes your readers an apology or an explanation.

Yours sincerely,

casbie · 12/10/2007 08:49

oooh, great letters ladies!

nospeak · 12/10/2007 09:04

It was very poorly worded, but I think that the Paediatrican was referring to a 2 year old being exclusively breastfeed which we all agree would not be a good thing. It was very unclear though.

tiktok · 12/10/2007 09:28

nospeak, not correct - see further down, where we discuss the fact she talks about the milk not being great in volume, so this is clearly not a baby thought to be bf exclusively.

Berrie · 12/10/2007 09:33

While all you extented breastfeeders are there may i ask a question?
DD is just 2 and I have been taking anti depressents for 8 months. I don't really want to stop breastfeeding, I know that in theory the pills are ok, but would you stop just in case they are harmful?

madness · 12/10/2007 09:47

o dear, what is exactely the problem then with extended bf. Just so that I can plan my funeral etc.

Emkana, I beat you with my 6 years and 11 months (well, with a gap of 2 months and 3 months whilest pregnant)

Berrie · 12/10/2007 09:47

Uh oh I killed the thread!

casbie · 12/10/2007 10:22

berrie - if the anti-depressants are fine for bf, then i would carry on.

i'm bf a 2 year old at night-time, but she still wants milk during the day - if tiered or hurt - which is a great calming influence on her.

but, i want her to ween soon (ds was weened by 22mths). fingers crossed i won't be doing this when she's three!

if there is any doubt in your mind that the anti-depressants are harmful, i would stop though.

casbie · 12/10/2007 10:24

i've just worked out that i've been bf for 7 years and 3 months (on and off).

wow! we all deserve a pat on the back!

SaintJude · 12/10/2007 15:26

Berrie

I started on Sertraline when DS 7 months old and I am still on them. I fed him until he self-weaned at just past 2 years old.

SSRI's are usually compatible with b/feeding.

If in doubt - go back to your GP.

Berrie · 12/10/2007 19:15

Thanks SaintJ. I'm on those too. I know that they are supposed to be OK, I guess now it's just the fact that since the BFing is something of an indulgence for us, I might be taking an unnecessary risk no matter how small.