challenging illegal formula packaging - sorry if this has already been posted but this is from the CEO of the NCT

[harpsichordcuddler]

"The NCT has been given a clear view from LACORS (the Local Authorities Coordinators of Regulatory Services that some infant formula packaging currently on store shelves is illegal under current regulations.

In order for it to be removed from sale there needs to be a prosecution or threatened prosecution. Local Trading Standards Officers are the people who would bring a prosecution, but to do this they need to receive large numbers of complaints from across the UK.

Would you help? This is your chance to make a real difference.

Next time you are in a supermarket or chemist, check out the infant formula packs (this formula is labelled as ?suitable from birth?) and read the wording.

The wording we are informed is illegal is

? Formulated to be nutritionally close to breastmilk
? With omega 3 LCP,s
? Closer Than Ever to Breastmilk
? Inspired by breastmilk

You may find other wording which is similar.

Send photos or a description to your trading standards office (you can locate your nearest using this link)

Scotland www.scotss.org.uk/scotss2.htm

England www.tradingstandards.gov.uk/consumers/clegis.cfm

Wales www.wrexham.gov.uk/english/env_services/tradingstandards/

N Ireland www.detini.gov.uk/cgi-bin/get_builder_page?page=61&site=9&parent=110

Channel islands www.gov.je/EconomicDevelopment/TradingStandards/

With a note to say

?These packs were on display in my local xxxxxxx on date xxxxx and I believe them to be illegal under current legislation because of the wording on the packs.
Please note the words

[INSERT WORDING ON PACK]

My information is that this wording is likely to be illegal. Please would you follow this up for me and let me know the outcome. ?

They will do the rest. You don?t need to explain why you think it is illegal or comment any further ? just report it. The body from whom local TSOs take their lead has already advised us that this packaging is illegal. Your letter will push them to act."

I felt that even Fannie and I were sharing a little grumpy joke about formula disappearing overnight.

I repeat

DON'T FUCKING TRICK PEOPLE INTO PARTING WITH THEIR CASH.

Yes, Moondog, breastfeeding is free/cheaper than formula, or it is if you get it right and don't spend a fortune on hiring a breastpump to express. But why are you saying this to women who had already pointed out that they are formula feeding not through choice? We know what that has cost us, financially and emotionally, already. You really didn't contribute to a discussion of how to campaign effectively against the lies of formula companies (that's my understanding of what this thread was supposed to be about)

If I might add some perspective to this rather emotional thread, can I just remind everyone that there are women out there who chose to formula feed because they prefer to.

They are not all ill-informed, in need of help, at a low-ebb or vulnerable.

Some of us feel no guilt or shame at the decisions we made.

Oh I'm sorry,was there a protocol in place o what to post,where,when how and why, signed by you personally Elkiedee?

Please,point me in the right direction so that I may peruse it and in the meantime......take your anger out on something else.have you a cat that could be kicked perhaps?

Desiderata, I know there are women who formula feed through choice.

I like to believe that they want to make the best decision about which formula to feed, and therefore my points about accurate information being provided stand for them equally.

Posted by Hunker

ooooh, no no no, moony, not fair. leave her alone. she's still got bruises.

They way we feed our babies/children is such an emotive subject.

I think we all understand that here.

I was dismayed [understating] to see comments elsewhere recently that it was "weird" to b/feed a child that can talk, like it's wrong or inappropriate. I've only just stopped b/feeding my two yr old. (He self-weaned).

No real point to this post, except to say, I do understand, I really do. I want to change things for the better for EVERYONE.

Ah yes, Desiderata - everyone has a right to choose how they feed their child.

Even if it is b/feeding past 6 months/weeks.

Its being properly informed that is the issue here.

I don't know anything about Elkiedee, Aitch so no idea about the bruises thing,but I will not have my words twisted to mean what someone presumably wants to believe I'm saying.

I get fucked off about all misleading packaging.Certainly not just formula. I have a long running battle with purveyors of that shit yoghurt called Activia.

very nasty post - is that ironic as well? Or being a total bitch? I think that's a totally unreasonable response to what I've posted.

Activia - that yoghurt for middle class women who won't fart, right?

Digestive discomfort, my arse

Posted by Hunker

That's the one!

Have you read the label and seen the crap that is in that?????

I won't even touch on Lunchables.....

Thanks for acknowledgement re bruises, I don't think I'm the one who was twisting words here.

We'll be talking fruit shoots in a minute wont we?

I really should go to bed.Exhausted after cleaning for hours and hours....

MD, no, haven't read the label. Knew after seeing the adverts that it would bring me out in hives to touch it

As for lunchables

Posted by Hunker

moony, meet elkie. she's still gutted by not bfing and it's all a bit raw. brave of her to even venture onto this thread.

elkie, meet moony. she's a passionate bfing advocate who struggled like fuck to bf and knows something of our pain. she's sarcastic and funny and thus easy to misinterpret, or even take the hump without misinterpreting her but she's a good egg all the same.

we are all on the same side here, i think. more information, clearer advertising, better bfing support etc etc.

I daren't watch tv.Haven't in years.
I wouldn't be able to leave the house.
My (lovely)friend came around the other day with some Bratz dolls for my dd.One was meant to be a bay.It had a bottle but also wore whore clothing.

Go figure.

Dd of course adores them while I rssist the urge to sprinkle them with lighter fluid and burn them in the garden.

Aitch, you are lovely

I am sorry Elkie if you had a bad time,and I am sorry if I upset you.
Never meant to.
Honestly I didn't.

Good post Aitch.

I nominate Aitch to take over helm of UN when that Korean bloke goes....

Awww Moony.

Much maligned and misunderstood Moondog.

I can take it.

and i accept, moondog. although i suspect that it'll go to some poxy time-served diplomat again.