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Still struggling at eight weeks... sorry but I need some more advice please... again!

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Mossie · 06/06/2007 11:02

Ds is eight weeks old today and I am trying my hardest to bf him.

He only very occasionally opens his mouth wide enough to get a good mouthful of breast (my areola are absolutely huge which doesn't help) and even then he often falls asleep after just a few minutes feeding... I have to tickle his ears, strip him down to his nappy etc just to keep him awake. Still he never comes off by himself, and even if I feed both sides he's certainly not a contented baby.

I got to the point where I would feed as much as I can and then express the rest (only ever an oz or less each time) and feed it him in a bottle so I could be sure he was getting enough. This exhausted me. I have now resigned myself to just constantly feeding during the day.

At night he latches on even less well and basically sucks the nipple. I have tried everything to encourage him to open wider, it just doesn't happen. So I'm sat there for almost an hour, never sure whether or not he's had enough, as he's not proper sucking really.

He produces plenty of wet nappies but poos only about once a week. His weight gain is slow - only a few oz each week (except last week where he put on eight oz but this week we're back to two).

He is never settled between feeds for more than about ten minutes... he then starts crying again, sucking his fingers etc. like he is hungry.

I went to a LLL support group a few times, the woman there checked my latch, said it was fine, said that if he wasn't opening wide enough "he probably wasn't hungry". Which can't be the case in the middle of the night.

I have rung the NCT helpline and got advised to switch feed, which occasionally works in the day, but again, not at night.

What I want to know is, is the above normal behaviour for an eight week old? If not, has anyone else had this experience and if so how did you solve it?

Also if all else fails where can I get someone to actually come and have a look at what I'm doing and explain to me how to do it right? I don't mind paying as if I can't get this sorted soon I'm going to have to pay out for formula milk which is expensive anyway.

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NormaStanleyFletcher · 08/06/2007 09:05

Oi - mossie - you still there. I fancy a cup of tea and will be passing your place in the next 30 mins or so

NormaStanleyFletcher · 08/06/2007 09:07

Oh - actually I think you have already gone. Will catch up with you later.

tiktok · 08/06/2007 09:57

Simsy, the New Scientist got it wrong. As did many other publications. They assumed the UK was using the charts use in the US and elsewhere - not correct.

Your HV is also wrong. The use of UK90 charts (the name of the charts used here) is not due for review until 2010.

I think it's possible the WHO charts may be offered as an addition resource - but they measure something different. They look at babies who are exclusively or mainly breastfed for about six months from healthy, non-smoking, well-supported (by breastfeeding help) mothers, in a range of different settings all over the world. You could say it measure babies who are following the physiological norm. UK90 measures babies in the UK as they are which is not necessarily the same...but as it happens, it is very nearly the same for the first few months.

Booboobedoo · 08/06/2007 10:07

How are you and Bertie today, Mossy?

NormaStanleyFletcher · 08/06/2007 18:58

Have just spoken to mossie and she has had a relaxing day at MILs (including a snooze on the sofa) and is putting MiniMoss to bed now...

Simsy · 08/06/2007 19:56

tiktok, thank you, I am happy to stand corrected.
My scientist friend always did say the New Scientist was the Daily Mail of the science world.....
Its hard to know where to get accurate information. Evidently not my HV.

Booboobedoo · 08/06/2007 19:58

Thanks NSF

foxcub · 08/06/2007 21:41

Glad Mossie has had a bit of a rest

NormaStiltonFletcher · 13/06/2007 21:30

OK -so mossie is still struggling, well maybe struggling isn't the term, but bertie still isn't happy... and he is 9 weeks old...

so (all of these presume that the previous step did not work)

My proposed plan of action is
Tomorrow HV - ask about tongue tie and general grizzliness - chase up NCT to see if they have a BF counsellor locally
Friday - BF cafe to check out her latch

Monday - get appointment with GP for silent revlux etc
Tuesday - See if we can get cranial osteo arranged.
Week after - try a bottle of formula - just 1 - to see if it is a 'not getting enough' problem

I hope you don't mind me doing this mossie, but I thought I would see if anyone else had any other ideas...

LunarSea · 14/06/2007 08:20

A long shot - but if all that doesn't work I'd get him checked for possible lactose intolerance?

maveta · 14/06/2007 11:17

Hey Mossie, just wanted to drop you a note to say I'm thinking of you and hope you get some answers over the next few days. If it is tongue tie try and find out from your HV asap where and when you can get it fixed. Noah had his snipped on friday and the difference is amazing. The doc and the surgeon both dismissed me saying it would not make a difference to feeding and if I was having probs it must have been something else. Based on their own experience of feeding a TT baby one would guess Hang in there girl x

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