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Tomorrow on This MOrning: When Breast Isn't Best

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PeachyChocolateEClair · 21/05/2007 14:21

Don't know if ahs been mentioned elsewhere, but apparently thsi item is showing tomorrow (Tuesday) morning if anyone feels the need to watch it.

Shall be expecting lots of, er, related 'debate' on MN that evening!

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rabbleraiser · 21/05/2007 14:23

Oooooooh, hard hats and full body armour will be required

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PeachyChocolateEClair · 21/05/2007 14:24

And with this warning, Asda will run out of popcorn!

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rabbleraiser · 21/05/2007 14:30

He he! I'm already rubbing my buttocks into the chair in anticipation.

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PeachyChocolateEClair · 21/05/2007 20:18

Bump for evening crowd

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mush4brains · 22/05/2007 10:55

Bump its on at 11.20am

Nemo2007 · 22/05/2007 10:56

bugger will be picking Ds up so cant watch

DUSTIN · 22/05/2007 11:00

At work so won't be able to watch it!! Will have to keep an eye on this thread for an update.

Muminfife · 22/05/2007 11:04

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urstingug · 22/05/2007 11:10

channel 3, on after the news now

shonaspurtle · 22/05/2007 11:11

It's on ITV now. It's the same women that wrote the article in the Mail that we had a huge thread about.

urstingug · 22/05/2007 11:23

Just going to start now!

Muminfife · 22/05/2007 11:24

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shonaspurtle · 22/05/2007 11:29

Exactly the same as happened to her has just happened to my friend. Thankfully when she was readmitted to hospital she saw a breastfeeding counsellor who has managed to help her start breastfeeding again and they are working to reduce the formula top ups that were required because of dehydration.

The breastfeeding counsellor apologised to her for the dreadful advice she'd been given up to that point as several midwives observed her feed and said she was doing it perfectly.

It's all about training and support though.

shonaspurtle · 22/05/2007 11:36

Wow! That was really sane and non-sensational!!! Rather different to the Mail article.

Excellent publicity for the Breastfeeding Manifesto.

littlelapinWearsBoden · 22/05/2007 11:37

shonaspurtle - that's exactly what I was going to post.

The Coalition lady was excellent.

MissGolightly · 22/05/2007 11:38

I think Sarah Oliver has a sad story and obviously received shabby treatment, but I don't see why that has to translate into such vitriol against the breast-is-best campaign. Wouldn't she do better to campaign for better support for women who want to breast-feed rather than railing against the "breast-is-best bullies"?

DimpledThighs · 22/05/2007 11:38

fuck I missed it.

Am guessing it was not that deep and profound?

MissGolightly · 22/05/2007 11:38

Agree that the coalition lady was lovely, and the debate was much saner than the mail article.

Ceebee74 · 22/05/2007 11:39

Have to agree - not what I was expecting at all.

And on a completely trivial note (I apologise in advance) - am I the only one who sat there thinking that her hair was gorgeous??

littlelapinWearsBoden · 22/05/2007 11:41

the redhead? stunning

Ceebee74 · 22/05/2007 11:41

Yes - the redhead - I would love hair like that.

tiktok · 22/05/2007 11:57

Fab hair, yes

It is a shame that she is not able to see that she was let down by people apparently unable to spot when the baby was not feeding properly, before it hit a crisis.

Note the first inaccurate weighing was done on spring balance scales - and to compound it even more, the calculation was done wrongly. Use of spring balance scales is simply not justified in a clinical setting - ever.

Bf lady was great - made some very good points about it not being helpful to target individual women with bf promotion stuff (beyond educating them about the fact breastfeeding is a good thing) without any wider attention to training of professionals and acceptance of bf in the wider world.

Hopeitwontbebig · 22/05/2007 12:00

I watched it and thought both ladies were brilliant. I was bullied really badly by midwives in hospital to breastfeed, but wasn't given ANY support, but was made to feel horrendously guilty for 'failing'. I'm expecting a baby in Sept and am so glad that there is all this information and support out there. My DS1 is 10, so it was a while ago. I'm hoping to succeed this time!

tinymum · 22/05/2007 12:06

I think some midwives do pressurise women in hospital to breastfeed, because they are told breastfeeding should be encouraged.....and yet they don't have the knowledge or experience to back that up. My midwife had never breastfed, and knew very little about it, so although she was excellent at the birth she wasn't much good with the breastfeeding advice afterwards. There needs to be more expert breastfeeding councellors working in hospitals giving out consistent, accurate advice.

Hels67 · 22/05/2007 12:14

My experience was fairly similar to Sarah Oliver's - my baby lost 15% of weight in 5 days and was only weighed as we were about to be discharged. We also had poor advice in a hospital (they wanted us to bf, but couldn't give us any help apart from "keep trying") where there were a lack of midwives over the New Year period and we certainly didn't see a midwife everyday for 10 days after our discharge, more like every 3 days.
Good luck to the Breastfeeding manifesto - more info is clearly needed by professionals as well as first time mums.