The baby show - was anyone there? Because.......

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...I went to a mother and baby group yesterday and got chatting to the health visitor (she's the group breastfeeding expert) and she was saying how one of her colleagues went to the baby show at the weekend and listened to a talk by some woman who claimed to be able to get your baby to sleep through within 2 weeks. Colleague was absolutely horrified because said 'expert' (she can't remember her name) talked only about bottlefeeding and when someone actually asked what you do if you're bf she dismissed it with oh just give them a very large feed last thing at night or feed them some porridge. Anyway, colleague wanted to stand up and argue with her but felt too scared too because she would have had to use a microphone in front of a whole crowd of people etc. Both HVs are actually quite angry about it.

Anyway, was anyone there and did they see it, are people allowed to promote bottlefeeding indirectly in this way and who was the 'expert'? Apparently she's supposed to be getting her own C4 show soon. If it's SHMN... just someone say yes and we can all quietly retreat...

blardy hell!! never mind dismissing breastfeeding, but to say give a new born porridge!!! what is wrong with people !! why don;t people get that babies WAKE UP TO FEED IN THE NIGHT!?!?!?!

and she is an expert ??

I second lulumama!

looks like it's claire verity

i hate people who talk about 'no-nonsense' approaches with babies. babies don't do nonsense, they do instinct. and you fuck about with that at your peril...

Ah, thanks Aitch (makes mental note to avoid her tv show)

Rubbish - every baby is different! My ds was a real grumpy babe everytime I tried the form on him. A top up would make him scream all night long. He only ever sleeps through with bf.

Claire Verity's, not yours Aitch (I'm assuming tv hasn't recognised your blw guru status yet )

Ah, the scales have fallen from my eyes... I thought my newborn was feeding at night because he was hungry. Obviously he was taking the piss and I needed a no-nonsense approach.

can you imagine if hunker or tiktok had been there?? she would have been wrestled to the floor and given very short shrift!!!

the no nonsense approach, i imagine, would appeal to parents who expect their lives to go on, just the same as they did, before the baby arrrived..and for the baby to fit in with their plans

or perhaps parents who are scared, and confused and want someone to take them in hand...

and they;ve not found mumsnet !

ok..lets not get into a whole other SWHMNBN with this 'guru' too!

What is wrong with people that they see tiny babies as creatures to be controlled and dominated??
Fucking sick (and believe me,am no hard core lentil weaving co-sleep ntil they are 18 type.In fact,never co-slept at all...)

I feel a "missiles to lebanon" moment coming on...

This woman's advice is dangerous and unhealthy

She clearly doesn't care that babies in their own room after day one increases the risk of cot death, for instance.

She thinks it's a good thing that a preterm baby should be made to go through the night.

She thinks it's bad for mothers to cuddle their babies outside feeding or bathing times. She thinks babies are like dogs.

She is a nanny - not a mother. Her advice is probably quite good for nannies, who need to protect themselves from forming a relationship with their charges, and who also want to show how great and indispensable they are to mothers.

But it's not good for babies.

Read the link and snort.

And yes, if I had heard her, I would have spoken up against her.

another childcare guru with no children..

I am not libelling her - it's all in that interview.

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reading that article has made me really upset, for some reason. i pity a mother who follows her advice, she's missing out on so much.

I don't normally comment on childcare people as lots of folk need something to hold onto when they have a new baby if it makes them feel better - but in this case

FUCKING HELL

and I only read as far as not cuddling your baby

If I went to that talk I would have had to say something too!

Maybe she is out to knock GF off her pedestal

fucking hell this woman is a dangerous lunatic. i am beyond horrified that she is getting a series, she should be SHOT.

Looking at some of those comments at the bottom of the article, perhaps The Sun should be afraid, BE VERY AFRAID (although being the Sun they've prob got a huge fund for legal costs)

Can I just interject with a wee point: not everyone childless is an utter numpty, though you could be excused for thinking so.

When I was a maternity nurse I never advocated this 'shove it in another room till it shuts the feff up' approach.

I don't think I want to be friends with that woman.

I'm feeling too, Aitch....fancy telling mothers they can have their bonding time at feed time and bath time only, and beyond this, creates problems.

The truth is that most mothers will not behave like this, and will want to cuddle their babies, and they recognise that this is part of their growing relationship with the baby.

Babies are human and need to share love - we don't treat our friends or our lovers in this way, rationing out the cuddles and the contact in case they get too used to it.

This advice sounds like it could seriously damage a baby if followed blindly .

Particulary when she says she puts babies on solids at 17 weeks and justified this by saying all babies are different....yet the rest of the article is about squeezing all these babies with different needs into tiny, "parent friendly" boxes.**DISCLAIMER: the above was a clumsy metaphor and I'm not suggesting she actually puts babies in boxes.

absolutely true, WT, pre-dd i would still have wanted to knock this woman's block off.

good point about the friends and lovers, tiktok.