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'Oh, just ram 'em on and hope they stick...'

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Gizmo · 07/08/2006 12:48

Here?s a question: has anyone who has had trouble breastfeeding in the past 12 months had a health professional who thought the best way to help was to grab the baby?s head and your boob and ram the two together as if trying to unblock a sink?

I?m 32 weeks pregnant and starting (as you do) to worry about the postnatal period and particularly getting feeding sorted. DS1 and I had hellish trouble with getting BF established, which resulted in his readmission to NICU for severe jaundice and weightloss after a week. At the time I put it down to one of those things ? some babies just won?t breastfeed ? but I?m mulling it over again now and the more I think about it, the more I?m convinced this is a situation that was largely created by bad handling. I was on my postnatal ward for 2.5 days, during which 3 midwifes tried to help us feed by grabbing DS?s head and holding it against the breast forcibly, while he wriggled and wailed. I even did it myself when I got home . End result was one seriously unhappy little boy with no interest in feeding whatsoever and a rapid decline. Even when we were readmitted to NICU and spent three days being ?re-educated? on breastfeeding, some of the midwifes there were doing the same thing: it was only the introduction of nipple shields that finally broke the impasse and gave DS a clue what to do.

I?m determined to BF no 2 (another little boy) and will turn psychomummy if anyone tries to do the same thing again. But before I go off the deep end, is there any justification for this ?sink-plunger? approach? Any studies on the subject? Has anyone seen it work? Do people still do it ? DS1 was born 4 years ago and it may be that the health profession have spotted that this is not such a great idea

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MarscusGarvey · 11/08/2006 14:21

Just read the OP so forgive me if repeating...

What appalling advice. You shouldn't press baby's head against breast, baby will think s/he's suffocating.

I'm sure everyone else has told you good methods. I'm still shocked at the way some health "professionals" behave.

tiktok · 11/08/2006 14:32

1baby - good for you for complaining.

Did they reply?

I feel the breastfeeding counsellor at the hospital should not have said such a gloomy thing to you - it's true that smothering and ramming puts babies off big time but it's too soon at that stage to say that the phobia is likely to prove permanent. With patience and care they can overcome it.

Your baby's jaundice probably got so bad because the feeding was not going well. It wasn't going well because your baby and you were manhandled. So you both ended up back in hospital - and on formula. What dreadful, appalling care.

Gizmo · 11/08/2006 14:39

Good for you for complaining, 1b1b. It's been 4.5 years since my experience, so I cannot remember enough detail to really complain effectively, otherwise I would be writing to my hospital to point out that I think they could improve their support for new mothers .

I'm sure that there are some babies for whom more direct intervention might be more helpful (for example Lazycow's DS) but it just seems to be counterproductive for so many people. I much prefer Tiktoks 'hands off' approach as a first technique.

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thepoppy · 11/08/2006 16:22

DS didnt ( and still doesn't have the cheek stroke reflex (all went into the falling one I think) but latched on himself fine. But after a couple of days he was just rubbish. I asked a midwife for help and she just pinched up my boob close to the nipple grabbed his head and tried to force the two together. Neither me or DS were impressed, so I just tried to work it out myself. The next night had a different MW who couldnt be more helpful. Got us both settled lying down and allowed DH to stay 2h after the end of visiting so he could watch over us and help out. That was just 11 weeks ago. From my experience it's very hit and miss.

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