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Breastmilk vs formula - the facts

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buzzybee · 03/03/2004 03:36

I came across this article on a Canadian website which I think is quite an objective and unemotive summary of the factual differences between breastmilk and formula for those who are interested!
here

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Angeliz · 05/03/2004 23:14

Lisa, yes even in sex, i just hate people touching my boobs, and although it is natural for a baby, to me it was not even an option!!!

Lisa78 · 05/03/2004 23:14

you don't have to grin and bear it - its not a nice thing to do if you don't like it

hercules · 05/03/2004 23:17

There is no way on this earth I would have bf if I'd felt this way. It would not be something I could have considered nor would I have felt guilty. we cant help the way we feel no matter how much we might try.

Angeliz · 05/03/2004 23:18

well when i read your post Lisa about the pain and stuff you'd gone through i just thought, , I could NOT do that with my boobs!
(BECAUSE i have an alternative), if i didn't i guess i would as i want babies! I think you did GREAT

Angeliz · 05/03/2004 23:20

I suppose it's like Mears was saying earlier, we all keep pretty quiet on our side of the fence
I don't usually get into debates about it as i feel i have no place to, breast is best and that is a fact!

Lisa78 · 05/03/2004 23:21

Thanks Angeliz - but I don't, am so stupid! Rather than thinking how well I did for feeding him for 4 months, I am thinking not only should I still be feeding him, but I should have enjoyed it too... What is wrong with me? Like I don't have enough to feel bad about, I find things to inflict on myself

Lisa78 · 05/03/2004 23:25

not a fact - breast MILK is best, and then only for the baby. Mums have to be considered too

Angeliz · 05/03/2004 23:25

Oh don't, you tried REALLY hard and you couldn't carry on.
Surely it's best for your little boy to have a happy mammy and a bottle, rather than a sad mammy and a breast!?
I'm sure he'll be fine and happy you are chilled

Angeliz · 05/03/2004 23:27

Exactly Lisa, tell yourself that!!!(Mums have to be considered too),

Lisa78 · 05/03/2004 23:28

I think so too - just waiting for my feelings to catch up with my head! He's just woken up crying for the first time ever and my very first thought was "its cos I stopped feeding him" ARGH!

Angeliz · 05/03/2004 23:33

Lisa, i feel guilty about tonnes of stuff, so this is just one of my biggest! Honest, you did GOOD

Angeliz · 05/03/2004 23:35

sorry, have to correct myself there, this is not one of my biggest regrets! That came out wrong and just contradicted everything i siad before!

tiktok · 05/03/2004 23:40

I am reeling from the terrible info mumtojames had...I thought I had heard everything, but clearly not

tiktok · 05/03/2004 23:42

Mummytojames - can I ask, was this in the UK?

Lisa78 · 05/03/2004 23:44

My friends MIL told her her milk would go off if she soaked in the bath for too long....
My friend thanked her for the tip then rang me up so we could laugh our heads off (then rush round checking it wasn't true )

hercules · 06/03/2004 11:22

lol lisa78

I'm amazed your friend managed to restrain herself on the phone without laughing.

tiktok · 06/03/2004 13:14

My friend's mother told her not to run for a bus or her milk would curdle.....

suedonim · 06/03/2004 13:26

Hmm, a ready-made source of yoghurt, then, Tiktok??

marthamoo · 06/03/2004 14:21

Lisa, I had no idea you were having such a hard time breast-feeding, you poor thing. Going to be bossy now - brace yourself - STOP with the guilt-trip already! You are a bl**dy saint to have kept going as long as you did, so well done! Now start enjoying your son.
I felt so guilty when I first gave ds2 a bottle (ds1 was exclusively bf-ed til 12 months), cried all the way through giving it because I felt so terrible, but he didn't die, his head didn't fall off, he didn't grow any extra limbs - he was just fine.

You do what is best for YOU - and that, by default, is what's best for your baby too. 'nuff said!

Lisa78 · 06/03/2004 19:13

Thanks MM, I am doing my best not to inflict guilt on myself any further. He seems so much more contented these last few days on just formula, but I don't know if thats due to the formula itself filling him more and faster, or that he is picking up on me feeling more relaxed.
Just have to get past the paediatrician now - tho he has managed to put some weight on at last, though not enough to compensate for what he lost apparently, he's practically dropped of the bloody chart. And only since he was given formula, so I can't help wondering...
Either way, he is very very gorgeous (not that I am biased)

aloha · 06/03/2004 20:18

Angeliz, what did I say? I certainly hope it wasn't something that upset you. I do remember posting about some women having sad feelings about stopping/giving up breastfeeding.... I think lots of us feel that. It IS an emotional subject and I hope I didn't say anything that caused you to feel bad.

Angeliz · 06/03/2004 20:32

Aloha, you didn't upset me, it just made me think. You said something along the lines of, some women have unresolved feelings when they haven't breastfed that makes them defend the right not to!! (It was on Springchickens thread!!).
I am sure you put it ALOT better, (i can't find the thread), but it just made me think.
I actually thought i wouldn't get involved in another discussion about it but got sucked in as you do
I'd had a few glasses of wine last night,(dp gives me a night off at weekends, and when i got up this morning i thought, OH GOD, i'm sure i was talking about boobs on mumsnet last night!

That'll teach me
Anyway, you didn't offend!+

JulieF · 06/03/2004 21:40

Lisa (huge hugs to you) I really feel for you and know what you are going to.

I didn;t b/f my dd. This was largely due to brainwashing by my family of how I wouldn;t cope, not being comfortable with my breasts, I understand about not liking them being touched etc and suffering nightmares about breastfeeding whilst pregnant. I had virtually no midwife support or the chance to talk through my fears.

I became VERY defensive about the whole issue. This was mainly due to regretting the decision once dd was bout 6-8 weeks old. I became angry, resentful and a whole host of other feelings if I saw anything about breast is best.

Ds is now nearly 4 weeks old. This time I was determined to breastfeed, however he has other ideas. He became completely hysterical every time he came near the breast and refused to feed for an entire day. His weight dropped from 5lb 14oz at birth to 4lb 10oz.

I have spent the last 3 weeks expressing and cup feeding but it is so exhausting. I have had fantastic support from midwives, bfc's and my HV. He did begin to come to the breast and suck and I though things were going well about a week ago but it turns out he still isn't feeding effectivly. His weight remains static at 5lb 1oz and he is jaundiced. It is very worrying.

I have decided I can't cope with him fighting at the breast, sterilising, expressing, cup feeding and look after a 2 year old so for the moment I am not offering the breast and expressing whatever I can to cup feed him but last night dh gave him 1 formula feed in the night to give me a rest.

I so do not want to give up, everyone says that given time he will learn to feed so I am trying to keep this optin open but it is really a case of how long I can continue with this. I was prepared for the normal problems (sore nipples etc) but when you realise that your baby is literally starving it becomes a case of getting milk into him by whatever method and whatever kind.

hercules · 06/03/2004 21:51

Wow JulieF. I was sooo lucky with my two as just had minor problems with ds and no probs with dd.

tbh I dont know if I would have done what you are doing, I hope so but I just don't know.

hope things get better.

Hugs

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