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I've been trying to wind DS for nearly an hour - what else can I try?

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CobOnTheCorn · 27/09/2013 12:22

Poor thing, he is hungry and tired. He had a tiny bit of milk (bf) and then started screaming. He hasn't been able to feed since.

I've lay in on his back, patted his back, put him over my shoulder, tiger in the tree, lay him on his tummy...

He is nearly four months and we have this problem everyday. I think I have an overactive let down as he usually pulls away and screams in the first few minutes of drinking.

Any tips?

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Sam100 · 27/09/2013 12:31

Sit him on your knee and with one hand on his tummy and the other supporting back of his head gently rotate him whilst he is sitting so his torso moves left, forward, right and back. Hard to describe! He stays in sitting position and you support his weight in your hands.

onelittlepiglet · 27/09/2013 12:33

Have you tried cycling his legs while he is lying on his back? This used to work with dd when all else had failed. Gently massage on the back as well in an upwards motion whilst upright can help too.

I remember how frustrating it can be! Good luck.

tiktok · 27/09/2013 12:33

One thing you could try is....nothing :)

Try popping him in a sling or a wrap, calmly and quietly, chatting to him calmly and quietly, and see how he gets on without the patting, jiggling, changing of position, and so on.

It could be he is over-stimulated and he wants to 'switch off' - his feelings are all over the place and he screams as a result.

Sometimes, babies beyond newborn only need a very short feed. Maybe when he pulls away he really has had enough, and resists being put on again.

If he screams and pulls away, just let him do that, and don't get fixated on dealing with his 'wind'. By four months, most babies can cope with powerful let downs.

Try a couple of days of just following his needs, and see if it settles down.

Chubfuddler · 27/09/2013 12:35

I think he's knackered. I second sling or pram and take him for a ten minute walk.

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CobOnTheCorn · 27/09/2013 13:36

Yes, poor little thing is shattered.

He is in the sling and we've walked around the garden (DS2 is in bed so we can't wander too far).

A few small burps have come out but baby is still bringing his knees up to his chest and crying.

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Chubfuddler · 27/09/2013 13:50

Try and feed him again. Just sit and have a cuddle with your top off and let him feed or not as he wants to.

GirlWithTheLionHeart · 27/09/2013 13:56

Maybe he's still hungry

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CobOnTheCorn · 27/09/2013 13:59

I tried to feed him again about half an hour ago and the same thing happened after two minutes - what am I doing wrong?

About ten minutes ago I lay own on my back so his belly was squashed on to mine and the last couple of stubborn burps came out, then he snuggled in to my neck and fell asleep. I transferred him to his cot and hopefully he'll sleep and wake up happy.

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tiktok · 27/09/2013 14:07

Cob, babies take in wind when they cry anyway, so the burping may have been the result of the crying, not the cause :) :)

Chub is talking sense about letting him feed or not as he wants to - it's not a question of 'trying to feed him'. 4 mth olds can help themselves :)

It's lovely he found calm from the snuggling, and fell asleep.

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CobOnTheCorn · 27/09/2013 15:59

Thanks Tiktok, I completely agree with your points. Perhaps 'offered milk' would be a better description.

There is definitely a problem with baby DS, if it isn't wind it's possibly constipation. He is turning away from the breast again and he has fed for a while.

Any tips for moving things along?

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NotAQueef · 27/09/2013 16:03

Have you tried gently massaging his tummy while 'cycling' his legs? That worked when my DS had stubborn wind.

ButterMyArse · 27/09/2013 16:12

I went to a baby massage course and they taught me a move for trapped wind, it's hard to explain but a very similar move is shown about halfway through The I L U bit. It really worked for DD (she used to fart as I did it!) but obviously they're all different.

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CobOnTheCorn · 27/09/2013 16:15

I just rubbed his tummy with some bottom butter but no smoke nor fire!

I'll watch the video now.

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CobOnTheCorn · 29/09/2013 16:36

Right, I watched the video and another one. Some of the 'strokes' I can't do - baby just screams.

We have had another horrible day, my head hurts so much from the screaming and poor baby is hardly smiling or cooing at all, rather screaming and sticking out his bottom lip.

The day started off well, he fed for about 20 minutes without any fussing. The rest of the time he was awake he burped a few times and was happy. He didn't settle for his nap that well but fell asleep after 15 mins or so. He woke up about 45 minutes later screaming and eventually let out a burp.

The rest of the day has been feed for a minute or two, scream and generally be grumpy/uncomfortable. Naps have all been short and fretful.

He hasn't done a poo since Friday lunchtime - what can I do to help him?

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ButterMyArse · 29/09/2013 18:48

Oh you poor thing. I'm sorry, I'm not an expert in this area at all but offering sympathies, the screaming is so debilitating.

Has he always been like this? Could it be a dairy allergy?

Not sure what to suggest about the constipation, I have a friend who swears by putting coconut oil up her baby's bum but probably wouldn't suggest any measures like this till you've seen a doctor.

Chubfuddler · 29/09/2013 22:09

I think you should ring your gp tomorrow. It's almost certainly not anything serious but I don't think you should leave it.

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CobOnTheCorn · 30/09/2013 19:14

Thanks butter - your post made me smile. Especially coupled with your username.

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CobOnTheCorn · 30/09/2013 19:17

Thanks for your advice Chub. Is there something in particular that is ringing alarm bells from my description?

Baby did a poo at lunchtime and he definitely seems better but I am concerned there is some underlying gastro problem.

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Minnieisthedevilmouse · 30/09/2013 19:17

Try brown sugar in water. Teaspoon sugar, warm sterile water. Always works here!

Minnieisthedevilmouse · 30/09/2013 19:18

Sure not colic?

cantthinkofagoodone · 30/09/2013 19:21

Over the shoulder and up and down the stairs.

Lay on his tummy for a few minutes

I feel your pain x

Chubfuddler · 30/09/2013 19:24

No, I just wonder if he needs some indigestion/reflux medication to help him (apologies if you've already said he's on some I may have missed it).

Are you bfing? If so avoid citrus/grapes/onions. I know it's an old wives tale but both of mine were in agony when I had grapes.

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CobOnTheCorn · 30/09/2013 20:03

Ok, thanks Chub. I am bfing and baby isn't on any meds. I do eat onions but not in any quantity, I don't eat grapes and the only citrus I eat is the odd squirt of lemon in cooking.

I thought that eating dairy can be a trigger but I read an interesting article on Kellymom that said there was no evidence.

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CobOnTheCorn · 30/09/2013 20:04

I've never tried the sugar in water Minnie - is that for constipation. I have no idea if it's colic but baby used to nap beautifully and now he seems so unsettled. Screams before he goes to sleep and wakes up screaming too.

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CobOnTheCorn · 30/09/2013 20:08

Canthink - haven't tried the stairs, I'm always worried I'll go flying in my state of fug.

Putting him on his belly sometimes works but sometimes not, hence we try all the different positions and the poor sausage is screaming more than ever.

He fell asleep tonight without even drinking his milk. I know he is shattered but surely he is hungry too.

I'm going to try and dream feed him now and see how he is.

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