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Harrow/Eton/Radley/Winchester Entry 2028

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MrsHLQ · 09/11/2025 11:14

Starting a thread for all those parents whose sons are currently in Year 6 and who are hoping to join one of these 4 schools in 2028

As the first stage of their assessment process, the boys are sitting ISEB exams this month

Here we can discuss anything and everything to do with the entire application and assessment process over the next 6 or so months or so. By which time we should all know if we have offers, rejections or have been waitlisted

Good luck to all the boys sitting ISEB exams!

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marsandrolos · 07/01/2026 22:43

Thank you for that really thorough answer @MrsHLQ
May I ask why you didn't apply for Eton with your DS?
Mine is actually on the Waiting List for Sept 2026 and I love the look of the school was curious as to others' reasons for choosing it.

MrsHLQ · 07/01/2026 22:53

I woukd also add that Eton (the town) is a lovely place. Very well located right next to Windsor, great road, roal and airport (Heathrow) links and very pleasant to stroll around. Just outside London too.

much nicer location than Harrow!

Harrow on the Hill is quaint but the areas surrounding it are a far cry from Eton’s gentility.

Location really matters. Oundle is lovely but miles from anywhere and a real pain to get to.

Rugby School is nice but the entire surrounds is very depressing.

Millfield lovely but really far from anywhere!

locations (micro and macro) matter and Etonnhas a brilliant balance

I’m coming across as an Eton mega fan but to confirm: we have not applied to Eton, it is not the right fit for our DS!

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Tobstar106 · 07/01/2026 23:08

Is anyone going to Eton next week for interviews?

MrsHLQ · 07/01/2026 23:43

marsandrolos · 07/01/2026 22:43

Thank you for that really thorough answer @MrsHLQ
May I ask why you didn't apply for Eton with your DS?
Mine is actually on the Waiting List for Sept 2026 and I love the look of the school was curious as to others' reasons for choosing it.

You are on the Eton waiting list you just know why you like the school! I thought you were asking because you didn’t know much about it!

In terms of your question.

A few reasons we didn’t apply to Eton (all about fit for our DS):

  • we wanted somewhere where top sportsmen hold equal prestige with the best academics and musicians. That is the case at other schools, but not at Eton. Obscenely brilliant Academics rule there, with gifted musicians not far behind and Sportsmen trailing behind them.
  • Eton is a massive school with 1,300+ pupils, so it’s easy to get lost in the crowd there. DS is quiet and is not one to put himself forward in a big crowd, so we prefer smaller schools, with a more intimate feel.
  • At Eton you need to be super organized and self motovated to study and do prep to keep up. There’s not much structure when compared to other schools. Some boys thrive in that environment as they are disciplined and self motivated and love studying for their own sake. DS needs more structure and support in order to study.
  • Friends son went to Eton recently and fell apart without structure. He did almost no extra study or prep and it was a torrid place for him. He left. We don’t want the same.
  • Boys we know who are targeting Eton are bright but also love academics and are self motivated to study and learn. They are also 125+ CAT like DS but have a totally different approach to learning than DS and many are 130+ CAT. They will study and study and study just for its own sake. They will endlessly revise for every exam and be disappointed with 97% (rather than DS who will be pleased with 60%) In the classroom these children would increasingly pull ahead of DS and he would constantly be in the lower sets, which would be very demoralizing for him. We wanted to avoid that.
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Potfullofstuff · 07/01/2026 23:52

MrsHLQ · 27/11/2025 18:14

My understanding was that for these schools the likelihood of getting called for interview is about 50%

Then at interview stage they cull about 65% of candidates

So there’s a 1 in 3 chance of getting a place after interview

and so overall for an applicant it’s approximately a 1 in 5 or a 1 in 6 chance of getting a place

VERY Rough metrics

It's not that competitive then, as long you meet the financial bar!

MrsHLQ · 08/01/2026 00:02

Potfullofstuff · 07/01/2026 23:52

It's not that competitive then, as long you meet the financial bar!

I think having to beat 5 or 6 other candidates (possibly more) is competitive

I have heard of figures higher than than as well, more like 10 to 12

either way, it’s hard to get an interview at all the top schools and even harder to get a place

yes the ability to pay means the applicants are not in the tens or hundreds of thousands

but still it is an achievement to get interview offers and even more so to get places

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Ncchangefotnow · 08/01/2026 00:22

I have read this thread out of curiosity and also having friends whose children have attended Eton and Tonbridge School . Their children are just achieving the same level as our children at A level and Uni .
It’s interesting because my children attended local Grammar schools and have achieved so much and all doing so well in their chosen careers.
Am just interested in why the top public schools have so much influence?

MrsDiddy · 08/01/2026 08:34

Ncchangefotnow · 08/01/2026 00:22

I have read this thread out of curiosity and also having friends whose children have attended Eton and Tonbridge School . Their children are just achieving the same level as our children at A level and Uni .
It’s interesting because my children attended local Grammar schools and have achieved so much and all doing so well in their chosen careers.
Am just interested in why the top public schools have so much influence?

I think this is where state and independent perspectives often talk past each other.
State school parents almost always default to measuring “success” in purely academic terms; A levels, degrees, jobs. That’s understandable, because state schools themselves are largely single-track: academic attainment is the main (and often only) metric.
At the top independent schools, academics matter hugely. They set the bar very high and expect pupils to clear it. But they’re not the only thing that matters. These schools are deliberately trying to educate the whole child; confidence, character, leadership, teamwork, public speaking, sport, music and drama – alongside serious academic rigour. Add in a peer group and network that lasts for life, and the influence comes from the combination, not just exam results.
On the point about entry (and picking up on @Potfullofstuff comment): respectfully that is nonsense. For a 10–11-year-old to get into a top independent school usually means a very high ISEB score (at least as challenging as the state 11+), plus strong sport, competence on (at least one) instrument, often LAMDA or stage experience, an excellent behavioural record and then attending a full assessment day that includes a formal interview with senior staff or even the Head/Warden.
That interview isn’t a tick-box exercise. Children are expected to sit one-to-one with very senior adults, think on their feet, explain their ideas, show curiosity, emotional maturity, personality and cope with pressure. For a 10 or 11-year-old, that’s a lot, especially when it comes at the end of a long assessment day alongside demanding academic tests and group tasks.
A fair question, then, is how many state-educated children, bright and highly capable though many are, would realistically meet that whole entry bar or feel comfortable going through that process at such a young age?
Even the most academically selective state schools, by contrast, usually reduce selection to a single exam score. That isn’t a criticism, it’s just a different model.
I’m not saying one route is “better” than the other. Grammar schools clearly work very well for lots of children. But the idea that top independent schools are simply about paying the fees, or that their influence can be judged purely on A-level outcomes, really misses what those schools are actually trying to do.

MrsHLQ · 08/01/2026 10:59

Some private schools are better than some state schools

BUT

the reverse is also true

indeed there are many excellent state schools throughout England.

Buckinghamshire, Kent and Gloucestershire have plenty of amazing grammar schools which are entirely free. Plenty of people in Kent prefer sending their DS to a free Grammar rather than paying for Tonbridge!

I don’t think going to private school means someone achieves more than someone in state school.

in fact, about 90% of the people I know who went to Oxbridge (I can think of around 40 people) were from a state school.

when I was at Uni my course was 50/50 state and private. Different paths but everyone ended up at the same place and the top two students on my course were from state school.

remember these schools we are discussing accept around 160 pupils each per year and many of them international. So the domestic footprint is probably 100 to 120 kids per school. Google says 100,000 sit the 11 plus exam for UK State schools. So although this handful of boys boarding schools is “our world” we are talking a drop in ocean nationally and it is just not something that 99% of people in the country even consider or care about.

Even within the private sector I know plenty of people with DS at prep school who haven’t and won’t apply to any of these boys boarding schools!

So I don’t think most of the schools in this thread do have any influence. Most people in UK will not have even heard of Radley, Winchester or Tonbridge.

Eton will be known to many by name only and Harrow less so. But beyond those two schools (and arguably just one school, Eton) I don’t think there is a lot of influence on national life.

Eton is definitely over represented though! Since 2010, two Eton alumni have become UK’s prime minister.

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MrsHLQ · 08/01/2026 13:23

MrsDiddy · 08/01/2026 08:34

I think this is where state and independent perspectives often talk past each other.
State school parents almost always default to measuring “success” in purely academic terms; A levels, degrees, jobs. That’s understandable, because state schools themselves are largely single-track: academic attainment is the main (and often only) metric.
At the top independent schools, academics matter hugely. They set the bar very high and expect pupils to clear it. But they’re not the only thing that matters. These schools are deliberately trying to educate the whole child; confidence, character, leadership, teamwork, public speaking, sport, music and drama – alongside serious academic rigour. Add in a peer group and network that lasts for life, and the influence comes from the combination, not just exam results.
On the point about entry (and picking up on @Potfullofstuff comment): respectfully that is nonsense. For a 10–11-year-old to get into a top independent school usually means a very high ISEB score (at least as challenging as the state 11+), plus strong sport, competence on (at least one) instrument, often LAMDA or stage experience, an excellent behavioural record and then attending a full assessment day that includes a formal interview with senior staff or even the Head/Warden.
That interview isn’t a tick-box exercise. Children are expected to sit one-to-one with very senior adults, think on their feet, explain their ideas, show curiosity, emotional maturity, personality and cope with pressure. For a 10 or 11-year-old, that’s a lot, especially when it comes at the end of a long assessment day alongside demanding academic tests and group tasks.
A fair question, then, is how many state-educated children, bright and highly capable though many are, would realistically meet that whole entry bar or feel comfortable going through that process at such a young age?
Even the most academically selective state schools, by contrast, usually reduce selection to a single exam score. That isn’t a criticism, it’s just a different model.
I’m not saying one route is “better” than the other. Grammar schools clearly work very well for lots of children. But the idea that top independent schools are simply about paying the fees, or that their influence can be judged purely on A-level outcomes, really misses what those schools are actually trying to do.

A very good post!

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Tobstar106 · 08/01/2026 17:16

My son has been offered interviews to all 4 schools , his first choice is Winchester ,Eton ,Radley and Harrow .
I am very concerned with what I am reading in regard to Winchesters reputation at the moment wich I find very strange to say the least !

marsandrolos · 08/01/2026 18:56

Same here @Tobstar106
Can I ask why you prefer Winchester to Eton for your DS?

Potfullofstuff · 08/01/2026 21:43

MrsDiddy · 08/01/2026 08:34

I think this is where state and independent perspectives often talk past each other.
State school parents almost always default to measuring “success” in purely academic terms; A levels, degrees, jobs. That’s understandable, because state schools themselves are largely single-track: academic attainment is the main (and often only) metric.
At the top independent schools, academics matter hugely. They set the bar very high and expect pupils to clear it. But they’re not the only thing that matters. These schools are deliberately trying to educate the whole child; confidence, character, leadership, teamwork, public speaking, sport, music and drama – alongside serious academic rigour. Add in a peer group and network that lasts for life, and the influence comes from the combination, not just exam results.
On the point about entry (and picking up on @Potfullofstuff comment): respectfully that is nonsense. For a 10–11-year-old to get into a top independent school usually means a very high ISEB score (at least as challenging as the state 11+), plus strong sport, competence on (at least one) instrument, often LAMDA or stage experience, an excellent behavioural record and then attending a full assessment day that includes a formal interview with senior staff or even the Head/Warden.
That interview isn’t a tick-box exercise. Children are expected to sit one-to-one with very senior adults, think on their feet, explain their ideas, show curiosity, emotional maturity, personality and cope with pressure. For a 10 or 11-year-old, that’s a lot, especially when it comes at the end of a long assessment day alongside demanding academic tests and group tasks.
A fair question, then, is how many state-educated children, bright and highly capable though many are, would realistically meet that whole entry bar or feel comfortable going through that process at such a young age?
Even the most academically selective state schools, by contrast, usually reduce selection to a single exam score. That isn’t a criticism, it’s just a different model.
I’m not saying one route is “better” than the other. Grammar schools clearly work very well for lots of children. But the idea that top independent schools are simply about paying the fees, or that their influence can be judged purely on A-level outcomes, really misses what those schools are actually trying to do.

That was my initial assumption for what the process looked like, hence my surprise that the 1:6 is the ratio for success vs applications. Some pretty heavy filtering before this stage then?

Tobstar106 · 08/01/2026 21:52

marsandrolos · 08/01/2026 18:56

Same here @Tobstar106
Can I ask why you prefer Winchester to Eton for your DS?

My son has been offered interviews to all 4 schools , his first choice is Winchester ,Eton ,Radley and Harrow .
I am very concerned with what I am reading in regard to Winchesters reputation at the moment wich I find very strange to say the least !

Tobstar106 · 08/01/2026 21:53

Yes, my son has chosen Winchester he said he feels they would understand him more !!

Lilylol · 25/01/2026 16:27

Has anyone been to Harrow yet? In previous years, the 1-hour test included English, Maths, NVR and VR, but this year it seems to be only English and Maths.

MrsHLQ · 25/01/2026 18:37

Lilylol · 25/01/2026 16:27

Has anyone been to Harrow yet? In previous years, the 1-hour test included English, Maths, NVR and VR, but this year it seems to be only English and Maths.

Are you sure?

It seems strange they would drop VR and NVR from an assessment which is effectively a re-run of the ISEB exam

as an aside, why do they make the boys go through this ISEB Mk2?

seems a little pointless to me as they already have ISEB results plus CAT scores. It would be better to use the time assessing boys in a different way

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Tfam · 25/01/2026 20:02

MrsHLQ · 25/01/2026 18:37

Are you sure?

It seems strange they would drop VR and NVR from an assessment which is effectively a re-run of the ISEB exam

as an aside, why do they make the boys go through this ISEB Mk2?

seems a little pointless to me as they already have ISEB results plus CAT scores. It would be better to use the time assessing boys in a different way

We did the Harrow exam and thought the same thing about having to sit yet another test! It was indeed just Maths and English. The English included a bit of VR though so makes sense that they took VR on its own off.

That said, I imagine they’ll take the interview and group activity into consideration a lot as well as the test results.

PrideOfLions · 06/02/2026 20:19

Hello - wondering if anyone can tell me when we get results back? Have heard it might be next week or during half term, wondered if anyone knew?

MrsHLQ · 06/02/2026 23:01

PrideOfLions · 06/02/2026 20:19

Hello - wondering if anyone can tell me when we get results back? Have heard it might be next week or during half term, wondered if anyone knew?

Harrow is May

Have not applied for Eton but understand from friends they offer in tranches, 2 months after the interview. Plenty of boys have been seen by Eton already but others aren’t being seen until May, so they won’t find out until July.

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HumbleCrumblePie · 08/02/2026 05:56

JollyDog · 04/01/2026 12:54

Avoid Winchester. It's changed a lot in the past couple of years. And not for the better. We let a year after you. The results were a little better but it still lags the academic and intellectual powerhouses in the UK. The pastoral care remains more miss than hit imo.

Edited

Your words ring uncomfortably true. We are, in fact, on the point of relinquishing our unconditional 2027 offer. Yesterday we attended the “Journey to Winchester Together” open day, convened for parents of boys already holding places. Awful.

When we first embarked upon this path, I very much wanted Winchester to be our son’s school; it was, I confess, something of a personal dream. Several male members of my family were educated there — admittedly many years ago — and I had long assumed it would be the natural home for our son: clever, sociable, and, if we are being honest, not remotely athletic.

Yesterday, however, brought a certain clarity. It was, I fear, the final nail in the coffin of that particular dream. A great pity — though perhaps better to recognise such things sooner rather than later.

Among other matters, we were treated to a lecture from the Headmaster lasting some twenty minutes. During this time she managed to inform us that she had chosen to educate her own children at day schools; that she had not originally heard of Winchester; that boarding is particularly marvellous because it allows housemasters to play board games with pupils late into the evening (a reassurance I found distinctly ill-judged, given the school’s long-running and very public abuse history); and, finally, that any suggestion of differences between the sexes — she notably did not say “gender”, nor clarify how many sexes she believes there to be — is hopelessly old-fashioned.

As this monologue unfolded, I found myself with ample time to read the six-foot banners adorning the far wall of New Hall, each emblazoned with the Headmaster’s own aphorisms and reflections, all helpfully attributed to her. One could not help but wonder what particular strain of narcissism leads one to have one’s own quotations professionally printed and displayed at such scale.

A parent seated next to me asked the obvious and pressing question — whether Winchester intends to become fully co-educational. The Headmaster declined to answer. This, it should be noted, is THE defining strategic issue facing the school.

We were then promised a “typical Winchester lesson”, though this was delayed because the teachers had not arrived. Once eventually located, we were treated to a thirty-minute astronomy lecture, at the conclusion of which the teachers cheerfully explained that, contrary to the Headmaster’s introduction, the session had been written specifically for us parents and bore little resemblance to anything a pupil would actually experience. The highlight of this lecture was a one-minute clip from Bob the Builder. I am not sure what else to say about that.

The session concluded with the Registrar urging us not to reject Winchester, while acknowledging — with what I can only describe as a faint air of desperation — that our sons all hold offers from other leading schools. This was not reassuring.

We were then taken to view the new sports facility. It is impressive. I know this because every single visit we have made to the school has revolved around this same facility. Every. Single. Visit. It is vast, gleaming, and funded by the Cheng family, whose name is prominently displayed throughout. One is left to wonder whom, exactly, Winchester believes it is courting.

This is a school traditionally suited to cerebral boys, not aspiring athletes. Of course one wants balance, but these tours are anything but balanced: sports, sports, and more sports. Rather than articulating a clear and confident identity distinct from Eton, Harrow, or Radley — all of which have made our son offers — Winchester appears instead to be presenting itself as a smaller, rather anxious, ideologically earnest imitation. A great disappointment.

PrideOfLions · 08/02/2026 09:08

Thank you so much @MrsHLQ. Does anyone know about Radley?

And @HumbleCrumblePie that sounds extremely depressing. Thank you for sharing. Do you know where your DS will go instead?

Lilylol · 08/02/2026 09:11

Radley sends offer in the beginning of March I remembered.

Winchie · 08/02/2026 12:12

I think we have had very different experiences from tours, HumbleCrumblePie. My son is really enjoying his time at Winchester, as are his friends. We made the opposite decision to you and rejected Radley and Eton (didn’t apply for Harrow) as we felt on the tours and speaking to other parents that Winchester did have a distinct approach and our son would fit in well. Our prep school head was clear that Winchester was the place for our son, so we did have the extra conviction from that. He was a classic traditional Winchester fit I’d guess, but we have been really happy at Winchester’s ability to develop him in all areas (social, critical thinking, academic, sports, confidence, independence etc).

He isn’t a sports star but has tried lots of different sports now and has got pretty good at a few of them. It is a sea change from when he arrived there as a confirmed PE-avoider. When he comes home he’ll take himself off for runs, make us all go to the gym with him, and has the confidence now to join in on other sports like football kicksarounds and beach volleyball with people he doesn’t know.

Academically he is being pushed hard where he excels and the depth of his learning is fun to watch develop. He genuinely enjoys all his lessons which just wasn’t the case at his prior school - he only enjoyed his strength subjects. Extra support where he isn’t as strong has been a boon for him, and has made a real difference. To hear him say he loves Chemistry is still odd for us to hear. We have been impressed.

Yes, Winchester are proud of the sports centre and do show it off, but it is impressive. I think if someone contributes a lot they do get their name on the door, I don’t see a problem with that. We spent more time on our tours in the DT department though, possibly as my son was more interested in that. We only went on two or three tours before my son went there, so perhaps it wasn’t as grating. I think what we really liked was that every boy we spoke to as we went around was helpful, confident and went out of their way for us.

As parents we also like the new head. She is a breath of fresh air, willing to shake things up and is making some interesting changes. I think her son was at Winchester btw? Each to their own, but what you have understood as narcissism we view as confidence. I’m not bothered about girls being in the sixth form and view it as a good development. I do think the communication wasn’t the best around the girls in sixth form decision, but we do have niggles. Winchester needs to move with the times and adapt and develop and it seems to be doing so.

Ayome · 12/02/2026 22:33

Hi all, any idea when Eton offer is coming out , before Feb half term or after half term ? I me for first tranche of course

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