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Telling DD the darker your skin the more beautiful you are but she won't accept it

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PatricksRum · 27/12/2025 14:23

DD7 is slightly darker than me and consistently tells how she hates her skin because "it's too dark."
She says she wants skin like mine as then she could be beautiful.
The difference between us is negligible and barely noticeable.

She has lots of darker-skinned dolls, toys and books containing them but is there anything else I can do to reinforce that black is beautiful?

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PatricksRum · 27/12/2025 14:51

MissMoneyFairy · 27/12/2025 14:46

Because darker skin doesn't make anyone more beautiful and it's not something to tell any child

It does.

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PatricksRum · 27/12/2025 14:52

havasack · 27/12/2025 14:51

It’s not true at all. In reality there are beautiful people of all skin colours and of course less beautiful people too. Tell her that she/ her skin colour/ her nose/ her freckle on her forehead are beautiful all you want but don’t tie beauty up with skin colour as that’s the message we’re trying to avoid surely.

No. I'm trying to avoid her thinking that white skin is more beautiful and superior.

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Poms · 27/12/2025 14:53

PatricksRum · 27/12/2025 14:51

No. I'm telling her that the darker the skin the more beautiful you are.

Nothing because she doesn't treat people badly based on how they look.

That doesn’t address the question. When your dd meets someone who is darker skinned than her, you will have taught her that this other person is automatically more beautiful than her. It is a harmful message. Beauty is subjective, and is in no way linked to skin colour.

PatricksRum · 27/12/2025 14:54

HelpMeUnpickThis · 27/12/2025 14:51

Hello i am light skinned “yellow bone”
Blah blah and i have one daughter who is cocoa chocolate.

All I have done is tell her a million times that she is so beautiful, i always point out darker skinned celebrities on the tv (this is hard to balance as my 2nd DD is lighter like me).

I just try to affirm her, compliment her, and NOT make a thing about me being light skinned.

I know this post may not be very helpful - i don't have all the answers.

I just try to be super positive about her skin colour and give her tangible references to people who have the same complexion as she does.

Thank you. I am too.

The darker-skinned celebrities is a good plan actually. Representation is very important.

Your post was helpful so thank you very much for replying and your suggestions

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PatricksRum · 27/12/2025 14:54

Poms · 27/12/2025 14:53

That doesn’t address the question. When your dd meets someone who is darker skinned than her, you will have taught her that this other person is automatically more beautiful than her. It is a harmful message. Beauty is subjective, and is in no way linked to skin colour.

Are you black?

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havasack · 27/12/2025 14:55

PatricksRum · 27/12/2025 14:52

No. I'm trying to avoid her thinking that white skin is more beautiful and superior.

By telling her black skin is more beautiful and superior?

I personally don’t put a lot of importance on being beautiful but there are pretty/non pretty people of all skin colours. Trying to pretend otherwise……no wonder she doesn’t believe you, she’s got eyes and will have her own ideas of beauty.

HelpMeUnpickThis · 27/12/2025 14:55

PatricksRum · 27/12/2025 14:52

No. I'm trying to avoid her thinking that white skin is more beautiful and superior.

@PatricksRum

You have lost me here.

You can affirm your child without any ideas about race superiority. That is so divisive.

Love and affirm the child you have. Dont inadvertently feed into racial stereotypes. Every colour is valid.

Poms · 27/12/2025 14:55

PatricksRum · 27/12/2025 14:54

Are you black?

Yes

MissMoneyFairy · 27/12/2025 14:56

PatricksRum · 27/12/2025 14:51

It does.

It does what? Do you seriously believe darker skin makes people look more beautiful than someone with lighter or different skin colour, dont you think that's really racist. You don't want her thinking white skin is superior but that dark skin is superior?

Deata · 27/12/2025 14:56

PSoup · 27/12/2025 14:48

I have this occasionally with DD, but I tell her on a near daily basis that her hair looks nice, or she looks cute in that outfit, or her skin is looking lovely.

She’s said she would prefer to have lighter skin. But despite mostly being around white people (I’m biracial), she ultimately isn’t that bothered and is happy, with good self esteem.

Maybe try giving compliments often, rather than waiting for her to express that she’s unhappy with her skin?

This is perfect. And I’m “biracial”. My brother, with his beautiful daughter, always made a point to praise her character and her behaviour, not even her looks. I’ve sometimes wondered how that would turn out.

She’s 23 now, a chemist, gorgeous, likes fashion, makeup etc, but isn’t conceited or seemingly in the slightest bit concerned with her looks. No stupid pouty insta selfies or mega makeup, fake lips etc. A win in our social media world.

with your daughter, she’s beautiful for being her. I wonder if she has received negative messages from school mates about her skin colour. I’d focus on building her self worth by emphasising what makes her beautiful (not just looks) and unique as your darling girl.

PatricksRum · 27/12/2025 14:56

havasack · 27/12/2025 14:55

By telling her black skin is more beautiful and superior?

I personally don’t put a lot of importance on being beautiful but there are pretty/non pretty people of all skin colours. Trying to pretend otherwise……no wonder she doesn’t believe you, she’s got eyes and will have her own ideas of beauty.

No. By telling her the darker the skin the more beautiful you are.

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madeoftickytacky · 27/12/2025 14:58

PatricksRum · 27/12/2025 14:56

No. By telling her the darker the skin the more beautiful you are.

But that is not true.

Poms · 27/12/2025 14:58

I wrongly assumed you had posted in good faith and wanted a discussion with others. I see now that you are not willing to consider any other view point.

To me you are no better than the people who ascribed harmful stereotypes based on skin colour. It’s a different type of racism.

PatricksRum · 27/12/2025 14:59

Poms · 27/12/2025 14:55

Yes

So how do you teach your kids (presuming you have some) that black isn't inferior and gear them up to take the racism they will experience in their stride?

That having hair that isn't straight (another gripe), afro hair and dark skin don't make you any less beautiful than having the opposite?

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PatricksRum · 27/12/2025 14:59

Poms · 27/12/2025 14:58

I wrongly assumed you had posted in good faith and wanted a discussion with others. I see now that you are not willing to consider any other view point.

To me you are no better than the people who ascribed harmful stereotypes based on skin colour. It’s a different type of racism.

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Sure. No worries.

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havasack · 27/12/2025 14:59

PatricksRum · 27/12/2025 14:56

No. By telling her the darker the skin the more beautiful you are.

But that’s simply untrue. I get what you’re trying to do but you’re basically lying to your daughter. You’d be far better pointing out beautiful people with similar features/colouring to your daughter and complimenting her positives (both physical and personality)

PatricksRum · 27/12/2025 14:59

madeoftickytacky · 27/12/2025 14:58

But that is not true.

It is. That is my opinion.

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Poms · 27/12/2025 14:59

PatricksRum · 27/12/2025 14:59

So how do you teach your kids (presuming you have some) that black isn't inferior and gear them up to take the racism they will experience in their stride?

That having hair that isn't straight (another gripe), afro hair and dark skin don't make you any less beautiful than having the opposite?

I teach them that it is equal, not superior or inferior.

Yummycarrot · 27/12/2025 15:00

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Lovenliving · 27/12/2025 15:00

PatricksRum · 27/12/2025 14:48

That's my opinion. It isn't wrong.

Are you black?

I am Black and I agree.

I get why we say these things because historically, the darker skinned of us were treated worse than those with more eurocentric appearance, but it still creates division. It becomes this thing where people who have lighter skin are Othered in Black spaces despite being treated as the Black person they are by just about everyone else. It becomes about who is "really black" and actually reinforces the problematic idea that we as Black people are a monolith rather than a group of people with a similar skin tone who were artificially forced into a shared identity. This is despite the differences in our culture and in fact, our appearance.

Instead, I believe we should cherish the diversity of Black people and make sure we value everyone who was included in this Black group that our oppressors created. We know about the one drop rule. That means that people of every human shade could have the African descent that makes them Black. Yes, we all have different experiences and those expeiriences are heavily influenced by how we look along with where we are. But that doesnt make one of us more Black than the other, that is just representative of the diversity within Blackness.

PatricksRum · 27/12/2025 15:00

havasack · 27/12/2025 14:59

But that’s simply untrue. I get what you’re trying to do but you’re basically lying to your daughter. You’d be far better pointing out beautiful people with similar features/colouring to your daughter and complimenting her positives (both physical and personality)

How can my opinion be lying?

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MissMoneyFairy · 27/12/2025 15:00

PatricksRum · 27/12/2025 14:56

No. By telling her the darker the skin the more beautiful you are.

If this is a genuine post and that's your belief, let's hope neither you or her think either you are more beautiful than lighter skinned people.

PatricksRum · 27/12/2025 15:02

Poms · 27/12/2025 14:59

I teach them that it is equal, not superior or inferior.

How does measuring beauty equate to being equal?

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CheltenhamLady · 27/12/2025 15:02

You are, inadvertently I presume, reinforcing racial stereotypes by focussing on skin colour. Substitute the word white for black and see if that explains it better.

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