Where can I live with my Black family? Now we have an evidenced based answer to that Q

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That's right! the election has been very helpful for us. It's a crude, but I'd say a valid, approximation of how welcome a black family would feel (be?) in certain UK locales. What is that measure? How well Reform did in that area!

Just direct any mumsnetters who ask the question, to this post!

Where Reform won:

Boston and Skegness
Ashfield, Nottinghamshire
Great Yarmouth
Clacton in Essex
South Basildon and East Thurrock

And where they came second, the list is very long, I'm afraid. I've included the vote share so it's more clear how strong the support was:

Aberafan

1. Labour: 17,838 votes. 49.9% share
2. Reform UK: 7,484 votes. 20.9% share

Alyn and Deeside

1. Labour: 18,395 votes. 42.4% share
2. Reform UK: 9,601 votes. 22.1% share

Amber Valley

1. Labour: 15,746 votes. 37.0% share
2. Reform UK: 12,192 votes. 28.7% share

Ashton-under-Lyne

1. Labour: 15,575 votes. 43.9% share
2. Reform UK: 8,784 votes. 24.8% share

Barking

1. Labour: 16,227 votes. 44.5% share
2. Reform UK: 5,173 votes. 14.2% share

Barnsley North

1. Labour: 18,610 votes. 50.4% share
2. Reform UK: 10,799 votes. 29.3% share

Barnsley South

1. Labour: 16,399 votes. 46.7% share
2. Reform UK: 11,651 votes. 33.2% share

Birmingham Erdington

1. Labour: 14,774 votes. 43.7% share
2. Reform UK: 7,755 votes. 22.9% share

Blackley and Middleton South

1. Labour: 16,864 votes. 53.8% share
2. Reform UK: 6,614 votes. 21.1% share

Blackpool South

1. Labour: 16,916 votes. 48.1% share
2. Reform UK: 10,068 votes. 28.6% share

Blaydon and Consett

1. Labour: 21,160 votes. 50.1% share
2. Reform UK: 10,007 votes. 23.7% share

Blyth and Ashington

1. Labour: 20,030 votes. 49.6% share
2. Reform UK: 10,857 votes. 26.9% share

Bolton South and Walkden

1. Labour: 15,093 votes. 40.9% share
2. Reform UK: 8,350 votes. 22.6% share

Bootle

1. Labour: 26,729 votes. 68.7% share
2. Reform UK: 4,746 votes. 12.2% share

Bradford South

1. Labour: 11,833 votes. 35.8% share
2. Reform UK: 7,441 votes. 22.5% share

Brentwood and Ongar

1. Conservative: 17,731 votes. 36.7% share
2. Reform UK: 11,751 votes. 24.3% share

Bridgend

1. Labour: 16,516 votes. 39.9% share
2. Reform UK: 7,921 votes. 19.1% share

Castle Point

1. Conservative: 15,485 votes. 38.1% share
2. Reform UK: 12,234 votes. 30.1% share

City of Durham

1. Labour: 19,131 votes. 47.1% share
2. Reform UK: 7,374 votes. 18.2% share

Coventry East

1. Labour: 18,308 votes. 49.5% share
2. Reform UK: 6,685 votes. 18.1% share

Cramlington and Killingworth

1. Labour: 22,274 votes. 49.1% share
2. Reform UK: 9,454 votes. 20.8% share

Dagenham and Rainham

1. Labour: 16,571 votes. 42.6% share
2. Reform UK: 9,398 votes. 24.2% share

Derby South

1. Labour: 14,503 votes. 38.8% share
2. Reform UK: 8,501 votes. 22.7% share

Dover and Deal

1. Labour: 18,940 votes. 39.6% share
2. Reform UK: 11,355 votes. 23.8% share

Easington

1. Labour: 16,774 votes. 48.9% share
2. Reform UK: 10,232 votes. 29.8% share

Ellesmere Port and Bromborough

1. Labour: 24,186 votes. 57.6% share
2. Reform UK: 7,278 votes 17.3% share

Erith and Thamesmead

1. Labour: 22,246 votes. 55.1% share
2. Reform UK: 5,944 votes. 14.7% share

Gateshead Central and Whickham Labour: 18,245 votes. 45.4% share Reform UK: 8,601 votes. 21.4% share

Gorton and Denton
Labour: 18,555 votes. 50.8% share
Reform UK: 5,142 votes. 14.1% share

Great Grimsby and Cleethorpes
Labour: 15,336 votes. 41.9% share
Reform UK: 10,533 votes. 28.8% share

Hartlepool
Labour: 16,414 votes. 46.2% share
Reform UK: 8,716 votes. 24.5% share

Heywood and Middleton North
Labour: 15,069 votes. 40.6% share
Reform UK: 8,987 votes. 24.2% share

Hornchurch and Upminster
Conservative: 15,260 votes. 32.5% share
Reform UK: 13,317 votes. 28.4% share

Houghton and Sunderland South
Labour: 18,837 votes. 47.1% share
Reform UK: 11,668 votes. 29.1% share

Hull East
Labour: 13,047 votes. 43.8% share
Reform UK: 9,127 votes. 30.6% share

Hull North & Cottingham
Labour: 18,480 votes. 48.3% share
Reform UK: 7,801 votes. 20.4% share

Hull West & Haltemprice
Labour: 17,875 votes. 46.8% share
Reform UK: 8,896 votes. 23.3% share

Isle of Wight East
Conservative: 10,427 votes. 30.6% share
Reform UK: 7,104 votes. 20.8% share

Jarrow and Gateshead East
Labour: 18,856 votes. 51.3% share
Reform UK: 9,892 votes. 26.9% share

Knowsley
Labour: 24,243 votes. 67.3% share
Reform UK: 5,924 votes. 16.4% share
Leeds East
Labour: 18,610 votes. 47.2% share
Reform UK: 7,345 votes. 18.6% share
Leigh and Atherton
Labour: 19,971 votes. 48.5% share
Reform UK: 11,090 votes. 26.9% share
Liverpool Garston
Labour: 24,510 votes. 58.4% share
Reform UK: 4,406 votes. 10.5% share
Liverpool Walton
Labour: 26,032 votes. 70.6% share
Reform UK: 5,787 votes. 15.7% share
Liverpool West Derby
Labour: 25,302 votes. 66.6% share
Reform UK: 4,879 votes. 12.8% share
Llanelli
Labour: 12,751 votes. 31.3% share
Reform UK: 11,247 votes. 27.6% share
Louth and Horncastle
Conservative: 17,441 votes. 37.5% share
Reform UK: 11,935 votes. 25.7% share
Makerfield
Labour: 18,202 votes. 45.2% share
Reform UK: 12,803 votes. 31.8% share
Maldon
Conservative: 19,374 votes. 38.9% share
Reform UK: 12,468 votes. 25.0% share
Merthyr Tydfil and Aberdare
Labour: 15,791 votes. 44.8% share
Reform UK: 8,344 votes. 23.7% share
Middlesbrough and Thornaby East
Labour: 16,238 votes. 47.2% share
Reform UK: 7,046 votes. 20.5% share
Montgomeryshire and Glyndwr
Labour: 12,709 votes. 29.4% share
Reform UK: 8,894 votes. 20.6% share
Neath and Swansea East
Labour: 16,797 votes. 41.8% share
Reform UK: 10,170 votes. 25.3% share
Newcastle upon Tyne Central and West
Labour: 18,875 votes. 45.6% share
Reform UK: 7,815 votes. 18.9% share
Newcastle upon Tyne East and Wallsend
Labour: 21,200 votes. 50.1% share
Reform UK: 8,383 votes. 19.8% share
Newport East
Labour: 16,370 votes. 42.5% share
Reform UK: 7,361 votes. 19.1% share
Newport West and Islwyn
Labour: 17,409 votes. 41.5% share
Reform UK: 8,541 votes. 20.4% share
Newton Aycliffe and Spennymoor
Labour: 18,394 votes. 46.2% share
Reform UK: 9,555 votes. 24.0% share
Normanton and Hemsworth
Labour: 17,275 votes. 47.5% share
Reform UK: 10,613 votes. 29.2% share
North Durham
Labour: 16,562 votes. 39.8% share
Reform UK: 10,689 votes. 25.7% share
North East Cambridgeshire
Conservative: 16,246 votes. 41.5% share
Reform UK: 9,057 votes. 23.1% share
Nottingham North and Kimberley
Labour: 16,480 votes. 47.1% share
Reform UK: 7,053 votes. 20.1% share
Oldham East and Saddleworth
Labour: 14,091 votes. 35.2% share
Reform UK: 7,734 votes. 19.3% share

Plymouth Sutton and Devonport
Labour: 20,795 votes. 49.4% share
Reform UK: 7,467 votes. 17.7% share
Pontefract, Castleford and Knottingley
Labour: 17,089 votes. 47.5% share
Reform UK: 10,459 votes. 29.1% share
Pontypridd
Labour: 16,225 votes. 41.2% share
Reform UK: 7,823 votes. 19.9% share
Portsmouth South
Labour: 18,857 votes. 48.4% share
Reform UK: 5,702 votes. 14.6% share
Rawmarsh and Conisbrough
Labour: 16,612 votes. 49.0% share
Reform UK: 9,704 votes. 28.6% share
Rayleigh and Wickford
Conservative: 17,756 votes. 37.0% share
Reform UK: 12,135 votes. 25.3% share
Rhondda and Ogmore
Labour: 17,118 votes. 47.8% share
Reform UK: 9,328 votes. 26.1% share
Rotherham
Labour: 16,671 votes. 45.1% share
Reform UK: 11,181 votes. 30.3% share
Runcorn and Helsby
Labour: 22,358 votes. 52.9% share
Reform UK: 7,662 votes. 18.1% share
Salford
Labour: 21,132 votes. 53.2% share
Reform UK: 6,031 votes. 15.2% share
Smethwick
Labour: 16,858 votes. 48.0% share
Reform UK: 5,670 votes. 16.1% share
South Holland and the Deepings
Conservative: 17,462 votes. 38.0% share
Reform UK: 10,606 votes. 23.1% share
South Shields
Labour: 15,122 votes. 41.1% share
Reform UK: 8,469 votes. 23.0% share
Spen Valley
Labour: 16,076 votes. 39.2% share
Reform UK: 9,888 votes. 24.1% share
St Helens North
Labour: 21,284 votes. 52.6% share
Reform UK: 9,115 votes. 22.5% share
St Helens South and Whiston
Labour: 18,919 votes. 49.7% share
Reform UK: 6,974 votes. 18.3% share
Stalybridge and Hyde
Labour: 16,320 votes. 43.8% share
Reform UK: 7,781 votes. 20.9% share
Stockport
Labour: 21,787 votes. 49.9% share
Reform UK: 6,517 votes. 14.9% share
Stockton North
Labour: 17,128 votes. 45.8% share
Reform UK: 9,189 votes. 24.6% share
Stoke-on-Trent Central
Labour: 14,950 votes. 42.4% share
Reform UK: 8,541 votes. 24.2% share
Sunderland Central
Labour: 16,852 votes. 42.2% share
Reform UK: 10,779 votes. 27.0% share
Swansea West
Labour: 14,761 votes. 41.4% share
Reform UK: 6,246 votes. 17.5% share
Telford
Labour: 18,212 votes. 44.7% share
Reform UK: 10,110 votes. 24.8% share
Thurrock
Labour: 16,050 votes. 42.7% share
Reform UK: 9,576 votes. 25.5% share
Torfaen
Labour: 15,176 votes. 42.5% share
Reform UK: 7,854 votes. 22.0% share
Wakefield and Rothwell
Labour: 17,773 votes. 43.7% share
Reform UK: 8,427 votes. 20.7% share
Wallasey
Labour: 24,674 votes. 57.7% share
Reform UK: 6,678 votes. 15.6% share
Warrington North
Labour: 18,730 votes. 46.8% share
Reform UK: 9,540 votes. 23.8% share
Washington and Gateshead South
Labour: 17,682 votes. 47.8% share
Reform UK: 10,769 votes. 29.1% share
Whitehaven and Workington
Labour: 22,173 votes. 53.0% share
Reform UK: 8,887 votes. 21.2% share
Widnes and Halewood
Labour: 23,484 votes. 61.6% share
Reform UK: 7,059 votes. 18.5% share
Wigan
Labour: 19,401 votes. 47.4% share
Reform UK: 9,852 votes. 24.1% share
Wolverhampton South East
Labour: 16,800 votes. 50.3% share
Reform UK: 7,612 votes. 22.8% share
Worsley and Eccles
Labour: 20,277 votes. 47.7% share
Reform UK: 9,186 votes. 21.6% share
Wythenshawe and Sale East
Labour: 20,596 votes. 52.6% share
Reform UK: 5,986 votes. 15.3% share

Bristol

If I had to leave London, Bristol would be my 1st choice and Liverpool 2nd, tbh. This is a very useful list to keep to hand in general tho.

Clacton in Essex - not surprised Reform won. I grew up in East London and so many loudmouthed bigoted oinks would move out to Clacton and then think they're a cut above due to no longer living in London. Costa del Essex

Jeeeeez how depressing. I'm staying put in tolerant SE London

Very grim thank you for sharing OP

That's really helpful, and scary.

I do understand the worry but I think you have made a correlation that doesn't necessarily exist - just because someone voted Reform, it doesn't mean that a 'black family' will be made to feel unwelcome.

That really scares me as a white woman.
I watched an old wartime film "One of our aircraft is missing" the other day. Whole Dutch communities working together to get a bomber crew back to England, at risk of their lives. 5 were executed.
And election results like that make me realise that one couldn't be sure of neighbours if we had such a change of government. It would be like the Stasi

Hopefully Cornwall's finally shaken off its reputation then! 💛❤❤❤💛❤

I think I am not the assumptive one here, as my post was purposefully non-directional because of comments along these lines (and there might be more to come where black women are told instead how to think otherwise, as is what often happens on BMN).

Of course, there is always the possibility that these areas - where THOUSANDS of people have voted for a party whose candidates have made comments such as black people are lazy and should get off their arses and stop acting like savages or calling people who arrived on UK shores in boats 'scum' and saying they hope these people are robbed, beaten and attacked - are GREAT for certain black families. I never said otherwise!

The Hastings and Rye Reform candidate, Lucian Fernando, is Black and got a 16.1% vote share. Labour won with a 41.6%.

https://www.reformparty.uk/hastings-and-rye-constituency

It's a pretty obvious assumption that will likely be correct in 90% of cases

I'm quite shocked by this. I'm not saying it's wrong, but I'm shocked.

When the results were coming in for the north east of England and reform were getting the second highest number of votes in many (most?) constituencies a lot of the BBC commentary was that they weren't surprised because those were the places where more people voted for Brexit. Does that also correlate to a place where black people are made to feel unwelcome?

I'm absolutely not trying to be goady, I just want to be better informed on the subject.

As in; a black person is involved so it can't be racist?

One just has to think about all the racism the Conservative party courted with and cosied up to while the PM was of Indian heritage, and several cabinet members were Black or Asian.

It's a transparent, porous non-point.

PS -Good luck Lucifer, I think he might have attracted more votes if he were white!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sorry, Lucian!!!!!!!

I LOVE the Freudian slip 🤣🤣🤣

My White Grandad received racism from Black people in his native country of Jamaica. Racism is everywhere

Essex, Thamesmead and Erith…couldn’t be less surprised.

I'm confused about this - Thamesmead and Erith are notoriously black areas. Thamesmead has been referred to as 'Little Lagos' in the past.
I was surprised that Reform was voted second.

I never thought I'd say this but it makes me glad that the AV referendum in 2011 was rejected and we have stuck with FPTP.

I like to think I don't know anyone who'd vote for Reform, but statistically, living in the area I do... 😶

Sorry to hear that. Did it affect his life chances, such as gaining decent employment, and affect where he was able to live?

For sure, there are also white South Africans who find themselves in circumstances where they are discriminated against because of their skin colour.

Let us dedicate some time to all of those white people who experience discrimination today in countries where black people are still dying of hunger because of the lasting impact of slavery, colonialism and apartheid.

Ok, enough time? Now let's move on.

These threads always seem to attract the odd tone deaf poster for some reason.

Utter losers who would not have the guys to say this stuff to you in real life. They must lead very sad lives to troll black MN

*guts