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Black Princess party
Sweetmelody72 · 02/01/2021 12:34
So my daughter turned 6 on Boxing Day. It’s always a struggle to sort out a celebration for her in and amongst all the Christmas madness, and this year was of course even harder.
I planned to do a tea party with a couple of school friends in her bubble and wanted to organise a virtual visit from a black princess/Princess Tiana. Scoured the internet and called a couple of ‘princess appearance’ companies, but not even one offered this in South Hertfordshire/North London where we are based.
I carried on digging and eventually came across Black Princess Parties DMV - based in Washington DC!! The plan was for her to appear via Zoom as Elsa (she looks amazing as Elsa), do a craft activity with the girls and sing Happy Birthday and a song from the movie. All very exciting. Then tier 4 happened and I had to postpone but she was still able to do a personalised message for my daughter for her big day - she has a musical theatre background and has an amazing voice.
Anyway, since I struggled to find this and thought other Black Mumsnetters might be interested in something like this, thought I’d come on and mention her. Don’t think I’m allowed to share a link?
KadyDarcy · 03/01/2021 11:45
That sounds amazing. I don't have a daughter but if I did, this would be perfect. Why can't you link? Everyone has been sharing links for everything from art to hair products . Wouldn't this be the same
Sweetmelody72 · 03/01/2021 12:01
Ok cool - I will then! I think she is working on her website but here is the Facebook page
m.facebook.com/pg/blackprincessdmv/about/?ref=page_internal&mt_nav=0
NattyDiamondDoll · 03/01/2021 12:09
My daughter is sadly too old for this now but sounds wonderful, I think lots of people would be very interested in this 😊😊
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DivineRoyalty · 23/01/2021 08:11
There are actually really African princesses that she could dress up as. She doesnt have to dress as a fake European princess. What a lot of people do not know is that Africa is the place where royalties and true civilisation originated from. Even now there are still many actual kings and queens throughout Africa. Not as powerful as they used to be but they still practice their royal tradition. The other nations just copied after us and now claim to be first world in their little first world minds.
Checkout hometeam history on YouTube about African queens princesses and empires.
Mothersruin1 · 23/01/2021 12:22
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DivineRoyalty · 23/01/2021 14:12
Sure, coming from someone who knows nothing about African history and only learn what they want to learn. Ancient middle east was part of ancient Africa and the people who inhabited these parts were black African people. These ancient African tribes still exist in these regions today and are treated like crap by the new age middle easterners mixed race (descendants of colonizers). Stick to your own history Madame. I'm sorry you feel offended, grow thicker skin.
DivineRoyalty · 23/01/2021 14:15
With that said the first kings and queens were from the African mainland, coming from someone who descends from the first race of people and studies African history.
BigusBumus · 23/01/2021 14:25
Why have you derailed a thread about little girl's birthday parties @DivineRoyalty?
Get your own thread if you want to educate everyone about black royalty.
This is about Frozen parties, FFS.
glassecase · 23/01/2021 14:31
*The other nations just copied after us and now claim to be first world in their little first world minds
Mothersruin1 · 23/01/2021 14:42
No need to be aggressive just found what you said offensive and wrong. Who are these nations you are claiming to have invented royalty and claiming it as their own idea?
DivineRoyalty · 23/01/2021 14:55
Bogus, the thread is about a black princess party for a black little girl. I believe it is important for black little girls to know their heritage and follow their own heritage rather than grooming them to worship whiteness. If you do not like to hear about African royalties you could have chosen to ignore it and comment your own thoughts on the OP's thread. I haven't derailed the thread because I didnt choose to respond to another person's comment instead of responding directly to the OP. Why have you derailed the thread to my respond instead of responding directly to the OP's question .
DivineRoyalty · 23/01/2021 15:02
Mothers ruin, like I said, I am very sorry for you that you feel that way.
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PlanDeRaccordement · 23/01/2021 15:16
Princess Tiana is a favourite Disney Princess.
But agree throughout Africa have been many black princesses and queens. Ethiopia especially has an unbroken line due to never being colonised. Benin, Axum, Mali, Zulu as well.
However, the ancient Middle Eastern civilisations were founded by peoples migrating in from the steppes of what is now Iran. So the ancient Sumerians for example, were not black. If there had been a black African origin people there beforehand, there has not yet been any archaeological evidence found of it. Yes 45,000 yrs ago the migrations from Africa started, but civilisation and kingdoms didn’t start (according to archaeology) until a mere 15,000 yrs ago so by then we’d already lost our dark skin and diversified into different races.
BigusBumus · 23/01/2021 15:20
You couldn't even be arsed to get my user name right @DivineRoyalty
DivineRoyalty · 23/01/2021 15:54
PlanDeRaccordement
So they say.
I only accept African history from African historians.
This thread should not have turned into offended privileged individuals responding to my post. Now I understand why there are not a lot of black women in this group.
DivineRoyalty · 23/01/2021 16:22
Sure it is racist to teach little black girls not to worship your image. Eye roll
This is the last time I am responding to you because the only person derailing this thread is you and the other individual. If you have a problem with African people putting their image and history above yours then you shouldn't be in this part of mumsnet. Make your own thread and talk about your own history. The audacity and entitlement is shocking.
Mothersruin1 · 23/01/2021 17:15
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PlanDeRaccordement · 23/01/2021 17:17
@DivineRoyalty
I’m not offended. I’m merely stating what world historians, prehistorians and archaeologists agree on, including African ones.
PlanDeRaccordement · 23/01/2021 17:29
For example Zahi Hawass (African) is a noted historian on Ancient Egypt, including the reign of Ramses II (the Great) who invaded and conquered much of the Middle East (Sinai by coast and Canaan- which is modern day Palestine, Israel, Jordan, Lebanon), all the way to Kadesh in Hittite Empire (modern day southern Syria).
And yet the history he teaches tells of African Egyptians invading and colonising the Middle East. So I am wondering which period of history you are referring to where Middle Eastern people were pushing Africans out of the Middle East and being called “colonisers”? When Egypt lost the land in the Middle East, it was losing what they had conquered and colonised. They weren’t the original inhabitants.
DivineRoyalty · 23/01/2021 18:25
PlanDeRaccordement
African history did not begin when Europeans decided to tell history and civilization definitely didnt start with black Egyptian dynasties. There were African civilization and royalties way before history could date back. I prefer to be told history by African elders who were taught by their own ancestors and have passed down knowledge rather than listen to historians who have gained their knowledge from European historical books.
I despise people debating on others threads, so if you wanna start your own thread I might stop by and answer you.
The only person I am responding to is the OP. I also wasn't talking about you being offended. You are obviously not,
Mothersruin1 · 23/01/2021 19:58
DNA says otherwise, stories passed down generations are notoriously innacurate. We are talking over 5000 years go, over 200 generations ago!
PlanDeRaccordement · 24/01/2021 09:56
@DivineRoyalty
Oral tradition does have a place. Some oral traditions have been corroborated through archaeological and DNA evidence. I would just encourage you to also take in historical information from other sources. For example, we have an oral tradition in China of the Minjiang River dragon causing huge floods and washing entire cities away. Many many stories.
Today it doesn’t do this but that’s because thousands of years ago, an irrigation system, the Dujiangyan, was built to use overflow when the river flooded. The overflow goes thousands of miles into southern China and waters the rice paddies. This also helps prevent big floods on the Yangtze River which happened often (Minjiang flows into Yangtze). This is an immense work. There is a temple to the river dragon and that has all the ancient powers to taming it.
So the history and archaeology support the oral traditions. If we ever let this system fall into disrepair, the river dragon would arise again and start washing away cities.
unlimiteddilutingjuice · 24/01/2021 10:06
I love this thread.
We haven't had a birthday party recommendation thread go this far off course since the great helium balloon controversy.
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