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Due March 2010 - just because I'm pregnant at Christmas doesn't mean I'm a taxi driver

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annamama · 02/12/2009 16:56

... new thread for oldies and newbies due in March! ...

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SmacOnTheLipsUnderTheMistletoe · 06/01/2010 14:36

IWCAS go home - that's an order not advice! You are far too kind hearted and always thinking of others. Think of yourself and rest up.
Lots of posts since I last wrote so won't comment on everything as I don't have the patience.
I have also been keeping an eye on the mountain rescue labour thread and there is news so go and check !
Yesterday I got all DD's little newborn things down from the cupboard and started an online order with Boots for all the newborn bits and pieces I need, nappies, milton, maternity pads, breast pads etc. They have quite a few things on special at the moment. Also kiddicare sent me an email today advertising their sale and announcing that they are holding the VAT. I have found their prices are very competitive if anyone is looking for some bigger purchases - buggies, car seats, cots etc. I have used them for quite a few things for DD and have found them to be very quick and reliable and no I don't work for them!
No more snow here but everything is still too white and slippy for my liking. I am terrified of falling and hurting myself and the baby - although I know the baby is well cushioned. I just couldn't cope with a broken limb right now. Hope your shoulder is recovering well Summer that sounds like a nightmare.
Thanks for the pelvic floor reminders ! I need them.
Also feeling breathless and a bit weak. I had my blood checked at last mw appointment but with Xmas and the holidays I've not had the results through. Maybe I'll have some spatone as a precaution.

designerbaby · 06/01/2010 14:49

HI all,
Housebound with DD today as we live at the top of a hill which is very snowy with a treacherous layer of ice underneath - plus my wellies somehow ended up in the storage unit rather than here, where I need then... It's all very tiresome as neither DD or I are very good at being cooped up.

Consultants yesterday was pretty good - she was fairly brisk and efficient - especially when she realised I wouldn't actually be having my baby at the Whittington "Well you need to really be having this conversation with a consultant in Wimbledon..."

And, miracle of miracles, they actually had all my notes from the Homerton - which was great.

She was very obviously and a bit to read that I had been given Misoprostol for induction last time, and the gathered herself and said that it wasn;t ever used for induction at the Whit, and that she, personally would never prescribe it for that.

Anyway, she was quite elightening. Said that basically to have another third degree tear, (plus all the lacerations elsewhere I has last time) would Not Be A Good Thing. Not that it wouldn't heal, it would, but there is a possibility of nerve damage which can result in rectal incontinence . For life. Lovely.

So we talked it through and decided that any kind of induction for me is therefore quite a bad idea - as it's more likely to result in instrumental assistance and therefore tearing/episiotomy - espcaially if one is prone to having large babies...

That said, she siad it wasn't necessarily a good thing for me to be allowed to go much beyond 42 weeks, even with monitoring due to the increased size of the baby. Plus there are increased risks to the baby, obviously.

So, the hope is that I go into labour spontaneously, before 42 weeks. In which case I should ask to be prioritised for access to a water pool, again to try and do eveything to minimise damage. But she said although they'll do that at the Whit. for women with my kind of history, in some places it's simply first come first served, so how likely that is to happen at Kingston, I'll have to wait and see.

Then, if the worst happens and there is no sign of DD2 making an appearance, I would be well advised to consider an elective C-section. Which isn't what I want, necessarily, but have to agree it probably has a better long term prognosis for me than another difficut induction for an overdue, large baby....

So at least I feel a bit clearer about what I plan to do in any given scenario, which makes me feel a bit calmer.

So today I began the process of trying to transfer my care... I can already see it'll be a palarver.

The midwives said the best and easiest way was to self-refer to Kingston, but when I called them this morning they basically said they don't accept self-referrals, and I have to register with a GP locally and then get them to refer me. No ifs, buts or maybe

Spoke to the GP practice closest to my new house, and they said they couldn't register me until I was acually resident there and could come in for a full helaht check. However, when I explained that we did actually own the house and were paying council tax and utilities, and that I would be almost 35 weeks gone by the time we moved in, their receptionist basically said I could download all the relevant forms from ther website, attach covering note, address it to her directly and she'd make sure I was registered ASAP.

Then I can start going about getting a referral to Kingston, and hopefully a booking appointment... But it looks like its going to be a long old process and it's making me quite anxious, TBH.

Still, all I can do is get the ball rolling and keep on top of it, I suppose.

Re: fathers at the birth - while DH was that mcuh use in terms of back rubbing or whatever last time, I am very lucky in that he can be a bit of a pit-bull when he has to be, and he was soley responsible for getting me the help I needed when hyperstimulated, by basically being bullish and refusing to back down until a consultant had come to see me. I honestly don;t know what I woudl have done if he hadn't been there.

Course, he went and spoiled all his good work by exclaiming when DD was finally born after 51 hours to his exhasuted and emotional wife whi wanted to know if her DD was OK "SHE'S GOT A DEFORMED CHIN!!". She hadn't - she was just sucking her bottom lip. But a midwife slapped him and told me he was talking nonsense - but a little itty bit of me will never forgive him for that one!

So I'll be moe than happy to have him there again this time. He's bloody good in a crisis. Not that this one is going to be a crisis. Oh no. It's going to be a beautiful, enriching and calm experience. I Have Decided. .

As for my Mum - well, not so much. When, on my wedding day, the cab which was supposed to be taking me to the church failed to turn up and DH had to send some of his groomsmen in a people carrier to get me, Mum paced the floor wringing her hands and yelling hysterically "It's all ruined already! The dress will be wrecked! The vicar won't stay! It's all RUINED!!". Heaven knows what she'd have bene like last time I gave birth. Not Helpful, anyway...

Manda - that's a very very kind offer - thanks so much. It would be lovely to meet up once we're moved in and both on mat. leave - there were others in the are, weren't there? Maybe we could make up an SW posse?

We plan on putting, basically everyone we know within the M25 on standby to hot foot it down to Wimbledon at the first sign of a contraction. BUt mostly everyone works, so it's still not foolproof by any means... So you may find I end up taking you up on that offer (so feel free to retract at any point - espcailly when you realise you've basically agreed to babysit for a woman you barely know who has a history of ridicuously LONG labours... ). At least until my Mum can burn down the motorway from Norfolk...

Can't believe it's still snowing. What the hell I'm going to do tomorrow with regard to getting DD to nursery and myself to work I've no idea...

Hugs to all,

db
xx

Arcadie · 06/01/2010 16:46

Crikey DB The NHS at its absolute jobsworthy best..... Glad that consultant taking you seriously though. Elective C-section sounds like it might be the way to go after 42 weeks.... You can join me on the "I'll do anything not to go overdue" plan. Sex aplenty. Pineapple and curry agogo AND MY FOOL PROOF midwife recommended technique of expressing colostrum from about 36 weeks...... I defy our kids to be late!

Sariska · 06/01/2010 17:10

Expressing colostrum from 36 weeks? Foolproof, you say, Arcadie? Ohhh, I hope not. I am still bfing DS in the morning and am sure it's already just colostrum.

Sounds like a very thorough appointment, DB. Cross fingers that Kingston are as good.

Tricky afternoon here. DH and I had to tag team working once DS came back from nursery. (Yes, I am meant to be working now .) I was on the first childcare shift and hopes of a sneaky hour's work evaporated when DS refused to nap. He then refused to cooperate with a nappy change (double ) but behaved perfectly when DH came to rescue me and do it himself . How am I going to cope with two????

IWCAS, hope you went home.

SnowballProofMum · 06/01/2010 17:16

4-6 weeks of expressing colostrum - ouch.

A sweep worked for me both times.

We're well and truelly snowed in with no sign of let up. We may have to eat the children soon.

scooby26 · 06/01/2010 17:17

Hi all,

Glad you got some decent info out of your meeting DB Good luck in getting sorted at your new surgery and onward to Kingston.

Very jealous of all you stay at homes today.

My employer- as you know- is not the sympathetic type. If you don't get to work the policy is you are deducted a days holiday. I'm not giving them that satisfaction.So I set off up the road for my 15 minute journey. Over an hour later I got to one of our offices where I dutifully remained til lunchtime when I left again (after being dug/pushed out) for my midwife appointment. And what a complete waste of time that was!! The third appointment in a row ( over 9 weeks ) and i've not had the same midwide twice. Mine has again taken the week off apparantly. Midwife was unhelpful in answering any of my queries re mucous plug, ( and last night I had a brown jelly plug come away too - soz if tmi!!), frequency of braxton hicks and possible carpal tunnel. All she would discuss was the weather!!! I mentioned my bump had dropped - in my opionion - she had a feel said was all was fine and then when I cheked my notes it says bubs is 3/5ths engaged. I'm starting to feel abandoned/annoyed by this wonderful midwife service.

Sorry all for my rant. Hope you are all enjoying your snow - i'm wondering how best to get into work tomorrow after the current bout of 6inches of snow finishes falling. It looks very pretty though!!!

Ever more convinced this LO is going to arrive a bit early. I know theres probably nothing to worry about and I'll probably be last of us all to deliver but I just have an inkling.......... Maybe my twin having two of hers early doesn't help!!!! (34.4 and 38 wks) xx ( I once was a spositive soul - honest!!!)

Sariska · 06/01/2010 17:46

How many weeks are you now, Scooby? Your midwife service does sound somewhat less than sparkling, which must be annoying, but do try not to worry. It can't alter anything (not meant to be patronising, honestly!). FWIW, my DS had been engaged (3/5 or 2/5, can't remember which) for 5 1/2 weeks before he finally put in an appearance. I think first babies often do engage pretty early - something to do with nice, tight, previously unstretched stomach muscles to hold them in place, maybe?

Sariska · 06/01/2010 17:53

Oh, and Scooby, maybe you could leave an anonymous print out of this on your boss's desk....

Arcadie · 06/01/2010 18:08

Scooby That MW sounds.... ( if you can't say anything nice don't say anything at all)

snowflakesarahandco · 06/01/2010 20:09

Hi everyone

Been to hospital today, walked thru the damn snow(left DC's with my DM) scan was all fine, DS is weighing approx 4lb 14 atm with 8 weeks to go- apparently prety average, i have had scans due to Ds1 being low birth weight at 5lb8oz born at 37weeks gestation,

Consultant has said there is no need to see me again now unless i go over due which i am pretty shocked at as i have a high BMI and am apparently high risk so i am sure i will be called back in at some point in the not so distant future!!!(had all this with DD!!!!) i too would love a home birth but am being very open minded and what will be will be, xxx

anyway we are off for Rosies operation in the morning(as long as there is still a bed for her), i will post as soon as i can to let you know how we are doing, thanks for all the good wishes i have had, i am doing ok atm, tomorrow i would imagine will be a different story,

take care in the snow everyone,

Spk soon xxxx

scooby26 · 06/01/2010 20:36

Good luck sarah. And really pleased about todays scan. Hope all goes well x

hayton · 06/01/2010 20:44

Hi To all you Marchys out there - just joining the thread - due on 19th...

PacificDogwood · 06/01/2010 20:57

Evening all from Absolutely Bloody Freezing Scotland - and our heating is still on the blink, shiver! Scottish Gas man on his way tomorrow if he does not get frozen solid...

DB, glad to hear you had a constructive meeting with a consultant. Although administrative nightmare to get rebooked elsewhere sounds a bit.... well, a nightmare . I know nothing about the individual hospitals you mention (being a country bumpkin North of the border ), but hope you get good care when you are all sorted. I changed hospital after my initial diagnostic tests (CVS) with this pregnancy were ok, but did not have the nightmare of changing address and GP at the same time. Poor you!
I was desperate to avoid induction/CS last time round and did lots of things to try and increase my chances of going into labour myself and before 42 - evidence based or Old Wives Tale, I tried it! Still went to 41+5 but had lovely VBAC....

sarah, excellent news about good scan result and decent sized baby. My DS2 was born at 31 weeks at was 4lbs exactly - you are clearly doing well!
And good luck for your DD tomorrow, hope everything goes well, and the whole thing is not too traumatic for her or you .

scooby, gah re unsympathetic boss! But try not to worry about mucus plug OR engagement - none of it means much. Engagement is a rubbish sign for whether or not your body is ready for labour, and also is notoriously easy to get wrong difficult to get right !
BTW, your twin having had one of hers at 38 weeks: that's NOT early... we'll not count the 34 weeker, that was just a fluke, surely?

I am really keen to deliver in the pool this time if at all possible, apparently it is much encouraged in the hospital I am planning on having this one. Here's hoping!

Dinner is beeping - leftovers, but filling and warming which is all that counts chez nous tonight.

Arcadie · 06/01/2010 21:24

Hayton Welcome over to the dark side Hope you find support and a lot of silliness to boot on this thread.

scooby26 · 06/01/2010 21:27

Sariska-thanks 4 link-if only itd work. I work in public sector and am one of 4000 employees. Little old me unlikely to be able to change the policy but might be worth a bit of sweet talking and guilt on my direct boss tomorrow! Pacific-thanks for the info.put like that all sounds fine-if only midwife had bothered! Hope leftovers filled a hole and warmed you up! X

MummyElk · 06/01/2010 21:55

hi all
marking myself, it's been a while
glad all ok - sarah thinking of you tonight and of course tomorrow, i hope all goes well
nothing much to report here - like everyone else it's flipping freezing, we're stuck in the snow and i have scrapped all plans for the rest of the week! lovely job. For those of you NOT friends with me on Facebook, my current status should read something like: MummyElk is concerned that only something with a Tog Rating will give her adequate cover over the next few weeks. Seriously though - my ski jacket zip actually CREAKS as i struggle sneak it over my bump

MW appointment today went fine - DD knew exactly how the appointment should be going - quite bossily told me "mummy - cot" to get me on the bed for doppler etc. She also showed the MW how to measure fundal height on her toy dog's tummy - quite sweet really and MW was very good with her (thank goodness).

anyone know the deal with CVS tests? ie are they quite normal? a friend has to have one and i'm trying to be supportive and positive for her, it could well not produce the result she wants . On the other hand it COULD and i'm aware that there are plenty of perfectly healthy LOs who statistically looked a bit dodgy at one point. DB any thoughts? (i hope i do mean you and my preghead isn't about to cause an almighty cock up xx)

can anyone post the link to the Mountain Childbirth thread?!!! You got me thinking there!

DH home so off to spend some time with him. lucky him?!!

Sariska · 06/01/2010 22:28

Sorry Scooby. It worked in preview. Anyway it was just to a TUC press release dated 5th Jan that asked employers to be sympathetic to employees who are snowbound and not require them to use up annual leave. Sadly I imagine it would hit the recycling bin sharpish when your boss read it.

Sariska · 06/01/2010 22:39

D'oh, think I misinterpreted what you meant, Scooby. Link worked ok but info in it has no chance of hitting home with your employer?? Preg brain strikes me again. There has been rather a lot of that recently for me..... Think that's my cue to disappear off to bed.

designerbaby · 06/01/2010 22:47

Just a quickie for MummyElks friend...

We had a couple of potentially very nasty things picked up on our twelve week scan with DD1 and were offered a termination on the spot based on that. (Very high nuchal measurement and an exomphalos, apparently two soft markers, which, when seen together often indictae Edwards syndrome a trisomy more often than not associated with a "not compatible with life" prognosis).

We asked for more tests to confirm before considering (for us) such drastic action. Had a CVS at foetal medicine unit. The consultant wasn't as sure about the exomphalos when he scanned prior to CVS, (there wasn;t one, in the end) but nuchal was very high, and we ended up with some pretty crappy odds (1:50-something for a trisomy, I think, if there was no exomphalos, 1:4 or something for Edwards if there was... Not sure about figures, I've kind of blanked it all out TBH).

Advantage of a CVS over amnio (even though there is a SLIGHTLY higher statistical risk of MC with a CVS, but not clear cut) is that you can have it much earlier than amnio, which means both less waiting time after having a dodgy prognosis before getting concrete results, and also that if you find yourself in the position of having to decide whether to terminate, being earlier in your pregnancy the procedure would be somewhat less physically traumatic...

I truly feel for your friend - it was, in all honestly the worst week and a bit of my life... I really hope she gets good results, and quickly. I think we got the initial all clear for the major genetic stuff within 2-3 days and the rest a week or so later.

Obviously DD was, and is right as rain... So quite glad we didn't opt for the termination ...

Hope this helps...

db
xx

designerbaby · 06/01/2010 22:49

Oh, one other thing - CVSs statistically safer, I think, if performed trans-abdominally rather than trans-vaginally... but check that out before quoting me...

And yes, they're increasingly common, for the reasons outlined above.

db
xx

mumbot · 06/01/2010 23:11

You are a good friend for asking MummyElk x

Welcome hayton congrats on your pregnancy

Just a note from me to say new pushchair arrived - it's a Baby Jogger City Mini and after owning a gazillion pushchairs I can't believe we didn't buy it before. It's so light, folds easier than I've seen any other and has a hood so big that you wouldn't need a parasol just a recommendation if anyone is still to get a pushchair.

Be safe in the snow everyone x

annamama · 07/01/2010 09:21

We finally have snow here in Kent too, but not too much. The mountain rescue thread just had someone saying that she had given birth, no post from her yet, no?

I've been feeling lots of kicks in my ribs on the right side, so was pretty sure the baby was lying head down. Yesterday morning we managed to get some bedroom action and then I had MW appt where she said the baby is breech! I wonder if it turned because it got scared of something knocking on the door... Anyway, the MW said it's too early to worry about breech, it can still turn lots.

DH came along to the MW, we were all discussing possible water birth and DH said that he might bring his snorkel and mask so that he can check if everything is looking ok down there. MW was not too impressed but I couldn't stop laughing all day at that... probably because I'm nervous about the birth, it's nice to be silly!

Most people who have CVS still have a bigger chance of everything being fine than not!

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PacificDogwood · 07/01/2010 10:20

Morning, all! I have only just defrosted after the frigging coldest school run I can remember, shiver.

MummyElk, I hope your friend and her baby will be ok. DB gave you a really good summary re CVS or CVS vs amnio.
I have had CVS x3 and no losses due to the procedure (my MMCs all occured before I had any tests done). I also had amnio x1 which was much less uncomfortable at the time of test, but again no complications afterwards.
Just one little remark: IME nobody told me I had to have any diagnostic tests. The figures and risks were quoted to me and it was then entirely up to DH and me to decide whether to go for it or not. I was looking for more guidance, but with hindsight I really understand why nobody tries to persuade you one way or another...

This site has very good and balanced information about antenatal tests.

I am waiting for Scottish Gas man to fix our heating which has been loosing pressure and then cutting out for days... I have a half day appointment slot 8am to 1pm and have to be at work at 1 (5 min from home), so I bet he will turn up... oh, 10 to 1 !

fayzalmoonbeam · 07/01/2010 11:12

Hope everyone's managing to survive in this weather, and wearing very sensible shoes outdoors .

PacificDogwood I sympathise with your heating situation - our boiler packed up on Monday and we've been without heat and hot water ever since! Plumber came out yesterday but seemed to make the problem worse, not better, so we might need to get another one in. Fortunately we have an open fire and an electric shower which helps a bit but still very annoying. Hope yours gets fixed soon .

School's been closed for two days so am working at home, but in view of the heating situation I kind of wish it was open!

scooby26 · 07/01/2010 11:13

Hi, tried to get to work and got stuck! Presently babysittin my ten mth old and 5yr old nephews who live 200 yards away while sis walks to shops. At least i know i tried!hope your all enjoying ur snow days! X