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Due Feb 2010 part 2: the second trimester

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CaractacusPotty · 17/08/2009 17:32

Not sure I am any more qualified, frankly, but hey ho!!

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TheOldestCat · 28/08/2009 14:18

Hallo all and happy Friday!

Sorry to those who have headaches - hope they stop very soon. What fun pregnancy is, eh?

To those asking about water births, I was in the pool (in hospital) for a lot of my labour with DD and it was great. I only had to get out at the second stage because of a slight complications. So don't rule out using a birthing pool in a hospital; ask your midwife if they've got one.

Apparently the room with the pool I was in was designed by Laurence Llywellen Bowen (or I might have dreamt that - I had a LOT of gas and air ).

We've moved since having DD and the local hospital is a way away. I want to have the next baby there (in the birthing centre), but DH doesn't drive and isn't keen on learning (and passing his test) before February so he's suddenly keen on home births. Hmm.

Anyway, have a good weekend one and all.

MidgetGems · 28/08/2009 17:00

Hello all!
finally dared to add myself to the list!
Elebereth - am due same day as you and have also had strange sensations in my tummy - kind of swirly and odd.
I also have a constantly blocked nose - especailly at night and in the morning. Other than that it's all quite exciting ...

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24 Feb Elebereth
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24 Feb MidgetGems
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raindroprhyme · 28/08/2009 20:26

i must admit i am only brave enough to go for a homebirth this time as i have had 2 straight forward hospital births.

With DS2 i saw a midwife twice while labouring and when i was ready to push no one responded to the buzzer as they were doing shift handover and my DH had to run the length of the corrider shouting for some one.

i figure if i have the baby at home the midwife will have to pay attetion to me and i want have that panic.

Also it is easier to not have to drag DS1 and DS2 out of their beds in teh middle of the night to a baby sitter or expect anyone to get up and come to us.

I am having hpnobirthing sessions every week from now til DDay so hope that will help with my anxiousness.
Is anyone else doing hpno stuff?

midnightsun · 28/08/2009 21:08

It's amazing how quickly we go from trying to convince ourselves it's real and that we are really pregnant to planning the birth! Brilliant.

I am definitely having a hospital birth this time as I had to have a c-section last time due to failure to progress and fetal distress. I was in labour under the care of the natural birth unit attached to my local hospital for 29 hours before they moved me next door, I went from no painkillers whatsoever to an epidural!

I have to say the birthing pool was a disappointment for me. It certainly eased the contraction pains, especially in my back, and helped me go into a very pleasant out-of-it stupor/daze/trance, but when I look at my notes it is really clear that my contractions slowed, spaced out and dilation halted from the minute I got in the pool (12 hours after contractions began and 20 hours before my baby was eventually deivered).

I read a really interesting book by a French surgeon, a caesarean specialist, in the months after the birth and he claims that in almost 100% of cases where a labouring woman experiences that labour slows up when she goes into the pool, she will end up having a c-section delivery and usually a long time later. He advocated using the pool as a test and argued he was so convinced on this that he wanted women to be sent for a section immediately if that happened. It would have saved me a lot of hours of discomfort anyway!

So watch out for that one all you water birth ladies. Don't panic or be put off though as I think most women do find it both soothes and speeds along the labour. The mother of my goddaughter had both her children in a birthing pool with no other pain relief and she is normally a total wimp and extremely squeamish. She raved about using the pool. But if you get in the pool and everything slows down, flag it up with the midwife and ask if you can try alternatives instead.

I live in Scandinavia and the c-section rate is 10% here so they are really reluctant to grant them and they want me to try for a vaginal birth this time. I'm quite anxious about it but will give it a go. I have been watching videos of normal deliveries on YouTube and then compared it to a video (could only watch one) of a caesarean. Oh my god I had never imagined how gory the surgery was, I was hiding behind my hands peeping through my fingers for most of it. So glad I didn't have to see any of that when they did mine!

I was in hospital for five days last time and DH was with me for the last two nights in a family room in the "patient hotel" (!) they kept telling me I could stay as long as I liked and didn't have to go home until I was ready and confident with breastfeeding. They didn't know what they were saying, I think I could quite happily have moved in for good, I was scared to come home!

This time I am going with an open mind and I have no preconceptions about how the birth will be. I've got over it now but at the time I was so disappointed the way my planned natural birth happened in the end. I don't care how the baby comes out this time, just want it to come out safe and well. I also am much more pro painkillers than I was with my first pregnancy. Every woman experiences labour differently and each labour can be different for the same woman. With no concept of the sensations of labour it's very tricky to make any plans or decisions, I think women are unreasonably expected to make choices in advance when they can't really know how it's going to affect them.

Sorry that ended up being a bit of a ramble. I clearly have lots of thoughts about that still locked up in my head, I thought it was all ironed out and behind me...!

midnightsun · 28/08/2009 21:28

By the way I didn't mean that going in the birth pool can slow down a labour, I meant I believe it was true in my case that going in the pool showed up that my labour was never going to progress at any healthy rate on its own. It would have happened like that anyway, I'm sure but the pool stage made it more marked. Just clarifying that. For women who are having a normally progressing labour, the birth pool is usually something which helps it progress further, so go for it!

mawbroon · 28/08/2009 21:34

Damn you lot and your infectious headaches!! I've had one today that I just can't shift and I passed out on the sofa the instant DH came home and could watch DS.

Hopefully it will be gone by tomorrow and I haven't felt nauseaous for a few days now, so hopefully that's the worst of it passed.

I was watching Eastenders tonight. You know how pregnancies only seem to last a couple of months on soaps? Well, now Zaneb is due the same time as us, so we can see if they make it realistic. That's if she keeps the baby of course. Good grief. How sad am I, comparing my pregnancy to a soap one!! LOL

Off for an early night now.

LovelyMonster · 28/08/2009 22:49

Oh dear Mawbroon sorry that we have passes on the dreaded headaches, hopefully was just a one off for you.

Raindrop - I am keen for hypnobirthing but have not signed up for anything as yet. What have you signed up for???

I am at the stage where normal clothes are getting tight. Can no longer hold gut in so look really flabby and not pregnant at all. hurry up bump!!

Pops78 · 29/08/2009 10:28

Lovelymonser - I am same have def got a bump in certain clothes, dresses show it, but in other stuff I mostly just look fat TBH - roll on proper hard bump.

Raindrop - I too would like to do hypnobirthing but looking at the costs decided I could only do NCT OR Hypno course and there is lots of double up anyway I have read. Problem is that hypno classes are all that bit further away that I don't think I would meet local mums like at NCT so have gone for that. BTW if anyone hasn't registered on an NCT course yet and plan to I advise you get your skates on. The first 3 I applied for for birth timing in Feb were full already and only just got on another! I think I heard you can get cd's to learn hypno techniques which I might have to settle for.

I am quite upset this morning because my supposed best friend has basically just told me to never call her again. Ever. She said this by text and to my fiance's mobile at 1am, not even mine. It's a long story but she has been a total b since I told her I was pg. It sounds awful but she has admitted she is jealous because her and her ex were going to try for a baby this year. I do understand but they were nowhere near that, plus SHE cheated on him and then dumped him and that was 7 mths ago now so its a bit rich. She actually sent my fiancee a text 2 wks ago at 2am before my bday lunch saying she couldn't handle it and wouldn't be there becasue she didn't want to talk about babies. She ended it Goodbye for ever, look after her X

I got her to come later but begging my bf of 23 yrs and bridesmaid-to-be to come to my bday is ridiculous - just because I am pg. I think you will all agree like my other close friends that I am better off without her but I always envisioned us growing old as friends and having babies etc..together. I am also scared to let her go as she tried to commit suicide last Nov and I found her and got her to hospital. It's very complicated but any advise would be much appreciated. I don't want to sound selfish but the drama and stress that surrounds her also worries me while I am pg.

Sorry for ranting on....Pops x

TotallyAndUtterlyPaninied · 29/08/2009 10:43

Oh I'm not the only one with headaches then. It's agony all the time. paracetamol doesn't work. I don't know if it's my eyes or what but it's knockin me sick.

Pops78 · 29/08/2009 10:47

Totally - I have heard 4head is very good - that stuff you rub on temples.

watercress · 29/08/2009 11:13

Pops78 your friend doesn't sound very friendly, instead she comes across as rather selfish and self-obsessed. I don't think you should have to beg friends for anything - certainly not to come round and see you - give her space and time and see if she realises how imature she is being and approaches you (would be my advice).

I know it's horrible when a good friend does this. I had a very similar situation last year - someone I had been friends with since uni days suddenly went all weird on me, and abruptly disappeared from my life. I was shocked and upset when it happened, and am still a little sad about it (particularly as she has clearly bad-mouthed me to others who have also disappeared).

I never found out what I had done wrong, nor have I been able to work it out, though she clearly perceives I did something to upset her. We went from great friends to nothing in no time at all, but I now feel that I am better off without her as she used to take up a great deal of my time and energy (we only every did things at her convenience and usually my expense), and I have also realised that she has a history of being very faddy with her friendships and relationships.

I understand that she is now engaged and wish her all the best, but if she doesn't want to be part of my life, then I can't force her, not will I beg her. I feel I did all I could, by maintaining contact through the odd text message and birthday and Christmas cards for a few months after she went all weird on me, so feel I can't do anymore.

SO please don't feel you have done anything wrong. You fell pregnant, and if it doesn't fit in with her life and she can't cope with it, that is her issue, not yours (IMO).

Onto another topic: headache sufferers, if your headache gets worse when you bend down or cough or sneeze, it is definitely congestion (as shown by pressure changes in your head) and a decongestant spray could definitely work. I think congestion is a common problem at this stage of pg.

Pops78 · 29/08/2009 11:36

Thanks watercress, she has just removed my and my dp as friends on facebook and sent me a text saying I was a selfish cow for saying she could come and stay for 3 mths when she gets kicked out but pls could she not be so sensitive about baby stuff because that would be difficult for me. Ummmm, ok bit unbalanced frankly. Said she felt sorry for my dp. I know I am just about to burst into floods of tears... must move past it... her whole family came for Xmas here last year...so sad....

Anyway, hope everybody is having a good start to bank holiday weekend and sorry for moaning on about this..

TotallyAndUtterlyPaninied · 29/08/2009 12:05

Pop- my best mate has done the same thing. She was trying for a year, didn't get pregnant, and now has to diet for her wedding, at which I am supposed to be a birdesmaid. But now she won't even speak to me. Didn't turn up to my wedding party and got someone else to tell me she was 'tired'. She sent me a wedding card through the post, has rekindled a friendship with girls we fell out with a long time ago, doesn't go on facebook anymore, spent my hen night crying and ignoring me, and won't answer texts.

As far as I'm concerned she's a selfish cow. Your friend is too. Don't worry about it. Soon all you'll care about is your baby. Don't let other people take away your happiness.

Pops78 · 29/08/2009 12:28

Totally - your right, just sent her a text back saying don't know what happened to her but will be here if she ever needs us. Good luck x. Her response was 'oh f...off'.

So I'm done, that's life, last person I thought I'd lose as friend ever, let alone cos of pg but don't have to deal with her shit anymore so hey ho (said through fading tears). Funny enough she is supposed to be MY bridesmaid so that's not going to happen now clearly unless she has a major U-Turn in her madness.

LovelyMonster · 29/08/2009 12:56

Sorry you are having to deal with this Pops. Sounds like your friend has a few serious issues going on and is taking them out on you. Sometimes people do this to the ones they love the most. Other times friends just drift apart even though you never thought you ever would.

Whatever the case may be try to stay positive and not let her upset you too much. You have such wonderful things to look forward to and if she does not want to be part of that then its her loss.

And in the mean time you can always vent here!!

Pops78 · 29/08/2009 14:07

Thanks Lovely - indeed so exciting looking forward and her loss...

grin · 29/08/2009 14:23

Oh Pops how horrible for you; given that an advert can make me weep these days you must be really feeling all this magnified somewhat due to the pg hormones. I think your final text means you can feel secure in the knowledge you have kept your dignity and sensitivity, and try to focus on the lovely and gorgeous things, like your wee person growing in your belly. LovelyMonster says Very Wise Words.

Headaches all round then? I spoke to MW about them and she said that lots of her pg women had said the same. Maybe the weather's not helping? I can second the 4head shout. There's a good thread about them somewhere on MN, I'll have a dig around...

Meanwhile no more 'normal' clothes here - well the odd top but certainly not trousers. Bump is growing daily...

grin · 29/08/2009 14:24

Oh and there's a waterbirth thread somewhere too...I had a hosp waterbirth last time and was Just Lovely (sorry don't know where all these capitals are coming from today). Am hoping for another. My first labour was v quick so if it does slow it down maybe that's a good thing, they say subsequent ones are even quicker!

grin · 29/08/2009 14:28

www.mumsnet.com/Talk?topicid=pregnancy&threadid=811805-Bad-headaches-in-early-pregnancy

chinook · 29/08/2009 20:00

Pops sorry you are going through this now. Although it is very sad, in a way it has come at a good time in your life (if ever there is a good time for this kind of thing). Your circle of friends is about to change and expand hugely. You have absolutely done the right thing in booking NCT classes. In my group of 5, 4 of us are now the best of friends. We see each other several times a week at least. Motherhood changes your life so much and you need people who are on your side to help you through the changes. I hope you aren't feeling too sad. Just focus on that fluttering tum instead.

Watercress - it is so lovely to have a health professional to guide us. I don't know if you remember but weeks ago you recommended a nasal spray to me (sodium cromoglicate) for my nasal 'secretions'. I finally got a prescription for it this week and am waiting to see if it is going to have an effect. Is this different from the decongestants you are recommending for headaches, as mine are definitely worse when I put my head down? Sorry to ask you work related questions when you not at work.

Took dd on a tractor ride today. To all you first time mums to be, you have no idea how many tractor rides you will have to go on in the next few years! It was a bit bouncy and I was having to discretely clutch my tum as it felt like my uterus was going to get dislodged. It definitely feels like there is something in there now, don't you think?

T4tastic · 29/08/2009 20:20

Hello to the beautiful bump brigade. I have been popping in since I learned, at my 1st scan 2weeks ago, I am 4 weeks further on than I thought. Which means I am now officially with you girls. My EDD is Feb 10, so I'm joining Lovelymonster on the list, and it's my first, at 39! VERY happy!! And looking forward to sharing the journey with you all... Xx

Pops78 · 29/08/2009 20:35

Welcome T4tastic very pleased to have you here. Must be great to find your 4 weeks further than u thought. Wish they would turn around and say I was 4 weeks further on, just counting down the days till I meet this baby hopefully.

Chinook - Thanks so much, having thought out all the things I have put up with from this girl before I even got pg and this came about I have come to same conclusion as you. This was bound to happen with her and better now when I have got so many other lovely new fellows mums-to-be to meet. Good news about NCT, really hope I have some good people on mine, like here of course.

Am having a cheeky little white wine spritzer but tbh having not been drinking at all just isn't going down the same.

2Happy · 30/08/2009 11:26

Pops - having a baby changes you. It changes your focus. The baby becomes the most important thing in the world, and makes you view the world totally differently. It sounds like you've been there for a needy friend a hell of a lot in the past, but now your priority is your family, naturally enough, and she can't handle that. Like everyone says, that's her problem. Sad though it is for you, it does sound like she's a bit immature and self-centred, and when you have a baby what you need is support without strings and it doesn't much sound like you'd get that from her.

Headache here too, but I'm pretty sure mine is lack of sleep, bleh.

T4tastic · 30/08/2009 13:03

Thanks Pops - heard the lil'un's heartbeat last week, which made everything seem so much more real, so I'm with you on meeting him/her in Feb.
Just adding myself...

27th Jan Devotion DD1 6yrs & DD2 3yrs
2nd Feb Raindroprhyme DS1 8y, DS2 4y
2nd Feb Ktpie DS 13m
3rd Feb flyingcloud 1st
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4th Feb mothrof2boys
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7th Feb grin DS 1 yr 6 m
8th Feb fiziwizzle, 1st
10th Feb Lovelymonster, 1st
10th Feb T4tastic 1st
13th Feb mignightsun DS 3y
14th Feb tryingtobemarypoppins DS 21months currently!
14th Feb Pops78, 1st
14th Feb Glynnispig 1st
14th Feb Threeplusone- DD 12.11yrs DS1 5.2yrs DS2 2.1yrs
16 Feb Watercress DD1 2y 10m
16 Feb esselle - DD 5.1y, DS 20m
16 Feb hannahsaunt - ds1 (8.11), ds2 (6.5), ds3 (23mo)
20 Feb Gert ds 22m
22 Feb Skibelle
22 Feb Scoobydoo
23 Feb 2Happy ds1 4y ds2 2y
23 Feb (twins!!) Insanitybecomesme DS1 9yrs, DS2 7yrs. DD3y 3m, DS3 21m
23 Feb TheOldestCat DD 2.9y
24 Feb Elebereth
24 Feb TotallyAndUtterlyPaninied DS 15m
24 Feb MidgetGems
27 Feb Westlondongirl
28 Feb Mawbroon Due DS 3.10yo

elebereth · 30/08/2009 21:11

MidgetGems, woohoo! Is it your first? Now its 3 of us on the same day!
Now tell me about people taking away your joy. My husband's older sister has become quite short and dry with us ever since she found out we were expecting. She has always been a pride and joy of the family - excellent student, then high paid job, grand holidays and designer clothes. So I heard the rumours that she is disappointed because we got there first. She has waited as long as she could to have a baby - her lifestyle is not really baby friendly, so now it feels like we should have asked her permission to have ours?

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