Due in September 2009 - waiting for an August baby!

[StealthPolarBear]

Hi everyone Can't believe we could have our first baby in 4ish weeks

Gonnabeamumma. I did NCT I found it useful but DH was and still is a bit about it all. I meet with friends relatively regularly. But I do find I get on with some better than others. It is a very expensive way to make friends and is a bit like those first few days at uni.
One of the reason I feel I haven't bonded really, really well with them is that I was the only person to have a girl and they all had boys so they all have a shared experience I do not have.

My advice would be to use your common sense when listenning and take some of the advice with a pinch of salt.

One of my friends was told on her course that no woman should need a C section.... Yes well... Lots of her group felt guilty about pain relief and C sections and IMHO No one should be made to feel this way.

Also your midwife sounds very very rude

bloody hell that mw is appalling gonnabe. Surely the least a mw should be able to do is figure out where the baby is - I'm 5'6" and a size 16 usually, and my mw has never had a problem. You should absolutely complain.

In fact saw my mw today too, and all's well. Fitz is still in head down position, and we had a good chat about labour, and my general wishes for birth are in line with the group's normal practices so that's good news.

glad you heard from dh SF

gonnabe please excuse the language I am about to use, but your post has really hacked me off...who the bloody hell does that woman think she is? Why the feck hasn't she measured you? How can you be 'obese' at 6'1 and a size 16? Any thinner and surely you would look strange??? If I were you, I'd be refusing to see her and making a complaint. Reckon you won't be the first person she's offended. CHEEKY bitch!

Camping went really well. The weather was lovely. One thing has really spoilt it though. When packing the car, I found a packet of fags in DP's coat. He was supposed to have given up last November, when we decided to try for a baby. I feel cheated and let down and can't stop getting tearful over it. He has been snappy for ages and now I know why. Sorry for ranting, but I absolutely HATE being lied to. Also I feel like a fool for going round telling people how proud I am of him for quitting after 23 yrs of smoking.

This baby ain't turning and I'm beginning to get frightened now. The mw has told me that there are no exercises you can do to turn it yourself - that a doctor has to turn her at 36 weeks. It feels like she's wedged in.

Gonnabe - that is truly awful!! I would be straight in there with a complaint!!

Blue - please try not to worry about baby's position. I too have an awkward bubba who isnt head down and i have been 'threatened' with manual turning. My dd1 was breech from 28wks to 36wks and turned 2 days before she was born (arrived at 36+3). There is plenty of time for baby still to turn. I'm not worried at all about whether she turns or not. I figured that there are only 2 ways she can come out and so the worst case scenario is that you need a c-section, but really thats it. Try not to stress about it.

SF, glad you have heard from your dh, finally. LOL at hoping he gets bites in his 'special' place.

Feeling pretty pants this week, had a busy weekend but have spent all week doing very little and still feel no brighter. Went to bed at 7.30 last night (before the kids) and it made no difference. Just over 5wks to go so at least the finish line is in sight.

Shouldnt be too long before we start popping - fingers crossed

LadyLush, how are things with you and dd?

Gonnab - I agree with everyone else. I'm a size 16, quite a bit smaller than you - BMI was 25.5 when the MW measured it at the beginning and she said it didn't matter in the slightest. There's no way you can be 'obese'!!
TigerFeet, glad the LO has turned.
"no woman should need a C section" right....

Hey all,

Glad dh has turned up safe and sound SF

Blue, try not to panic about it too much (easier said that done I know). Babies can turn around right up until labour sometimes according to my mws. Hope the baby shifts itself soon!

Gonnabe, how awful! I would put in a complaint, she can't speak to people like that, apart from being horrid its completely unprofessional. What a cow.

Good luck with the move ticklist!

MIL is down to visit at the moment and has taken ds out for a while, has been lovely having a hours peace! Hope everyone is ok.

Hey all,

Glad dh has turned up safe and sound SF

Blue, try not to panic about it too much (easier said that done I know). Babies can turn around right up until labour sometimes according to my mws. Hope the baby shifts itself soon!

Gonnabe, how awful! I would put in a complaint, she can't speak to people like that, apart from being horrid its completely unprofessional. What a cow.

Good luck with the move ticklist!

MIL is down to visit at the moment and has taken ds out for a while, has been lovely having a hours peace! Hope everyone is ok.

Why do I keep dropping stuff??!!! When I had no aches and pains I never dropped anything! S'not fair [pout emoticon] !

Did someone on here say that they found a duvet under the sheet helpful? Is it just a case of making a v shaped sausage out of the duvet so you have a sort of nest to sleep in? No matter how I wedge myself in, every time I wake up (which is about 5 times atm!) I'm always on my back which is a bit worrying.

OK I'm going to say it again... ladies with breech babies DON'T WORRY.

The ECV turning thing will be fine, It's just a lot of poking about really, it's a bit like scooping from the outside of your body. DD was well and truly wedged didn't move and they do have varied success rates.

I can send you my experience of it and my elective which I wrote for the NCT magazine if you like.

I also have a document from another mumsnetter Lulumamma which is ideas to make an elective C section more personal, Anyone is welcome to contact me on CAT for it Or indicate you want it on the thread and I can CAT you.
The document is useful and an easy read.

Also Daffodilli Don't worry about the sleeping on your back,

The NCT tutor told me it was more important thet you get some quality sleep even if it is on your back, than keep yourself awake worrying about positions. If you are feeling dizzy when you get up try rolling onto your side for a while before getting up or sitting up in bed, don't just leap out of bed.

I nearly always wake up on my back

Sorry I appear to be a bit bossy tonight

audrey thanks very much for those homebirthing links. I expect to go to my meeting armed with information. Apparently, even obstetricians argue that since home birth is at least as safe as hospital birth, denying a woman a home birth is as ethically wrong as denying a hospital birth. Imagine the outcry if they turned a labouring woman away from a delivery suite!

If there was a medical reason, fair enough, but all the midwives at my unit say I'm a good candidate. They just don't have the staff. Sheesh.

I don't like having to beg for what I am already entitled to [grump]. Of course, I could go for a completely unassisted birth...

Let's see, I'll need a clothes peg for the cord, some hot towels, or is that cold water, a bucket, a couple of paracetamol tablets...

Also Daffodilli Don't worry about the sleeping on your back,

The NCT tutor told me it was more important thet you get some quality sleep even if it is on your back, than keep yourself awake worrying about positions. If you are feeling dizzy when you get up try rolling onto your side for a while before getting up or sitting up in bed, don't just leap out of bed.

I nearly always wake up on my back

Sorry I appear to be a bit bossy tonight

Blinder I thik on a very old episode of Neghbours a character tied the cord of a baby delivered in his taxi with a shoelace. Don't go to the expense of getting a peg!!

Daffodilli - I just folded the duvet over to make a soft flat cover over my half of our lovely firm mattress - nothing elaborate, but folding it into a wedge may be useful. Not sure how much you really need to worry about waking up on your back - just enjoy getting some sleep while you can - oh - that's what peachy, said...

Really looking forward to getting into my bed now, thinking about it [yawn]

8.5 days left in the office...

Thank you! Might make a nice cosy nest, put on one of my hypno cds, and maybe I'll sleep all night...!

Blinder how would your OH be as a birth assistant? Handy with the towels and pegs?!

Tights you say? Might be a good way not to need a birth assistant. No-one needs to catch the baby with a good strong gusset to do the job.

Ok so, peg (if inexpensive), shoe-laces, hot towels, tights (20 denier I think) and smelling salts / bucket of cold water for DP (just in case Daffs).

Easy peasy so far! Anything I haven't thought of?

blue my DP hasn't entirely quit either. Still puffing the occasional one when out with mates. FWIW my midwife did say for future reference that anyone who has smoked in the past 24 hours should not hold the baby at all, OR sleep in the same room - new SIDS guidelines. He will have to stop when your LO is born. There are leaflets about it in my unit. Maybe you could get hold of one for him?

And babies really do turn right up until the due date - even if they seem very tightly wedged, usually when you are asleep! Don't waste any worry over it really . There's plenty of time.

However, one bizarre tip I read (Ina May Gaskin so probably reliable) is to ring bells, phones and buzzy things (oo-er) right at the entrance to your LG. Apparently, it intrigues them and they turn to get a better listen! Worth a shot!

blinder, i'm mentally preparing myself for an unassisted birth, just in case no-one makes it here in time. expecting the baby to just fall out this time, after 4 hours last time

at the unassisted births. One of my friends was in a lift at the hospital and her DH had to catch the baby [mw didn't believe her when she said the baby was going to fall out]

Suppose the placenta is at your disposal...supper maybe?

Does anyone else seem to get conflicting advice/facts from mws? Last week, when I had a chest infection, the coughing brought on BH every 10 mins for 2 hrs one night. The mw I spoke to the next day said not to worry, coughing cannot induce labour. Yet when I spoke to my own mw yday, she said that if the uterus is irritated enough, then yes it can bring on labour.

stayfrosty DP has promised me that he's not going to smoke again. We'll see. Thanks for the heads up though - will tell him - I'm sure he'll definitely not smoke if he knows he won''t be able to hold LO.

Re lying on your back - I always wake up on my back and lie on my side for half an hr before getting up. It's more for our own comfort that we do not lie on our backs.

Morning all, LOL at all the unassisted birth stories, particuarly the one with the tights!! Classic.

Ooh there are some naughty DH/DP stories on here. I have faith that we can whip them into shape though. Does make your own relationship feel quite normal when you see what everyone goes through from time to time.

Agree on all the advice about sleeping on your back. The Consultant I am seeing said that at worst your blood pressure could drop and you would naturally just roll over. Should not harm baby in any way.

Anyone else getting a weird but audible click sound from time to time when baby moves? I asked the consultant and he thought it was probably my hips or something moving but I am adamant that it is not me. DH has even heard it when I am sitting still in a chair. There are quite a few posts from other ladies when you google it but no one seems to know what it is?

babylady I hear popping and clicking but have put it down to my tummy/bowel groaning when LO kicks...
When my waters went with each DD I heard the pop both times!

I've known another mumsnetter to have a particulary clicky baby, presumably it something to do with space and fluid??

We had a lovely day out today at Ham house, lovely weather by the river. Strangely enough there were at least three other pregnant ladies there.