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Due November 2009 - second trimester thread part 2

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skorpion · 25/06/2009 10:44

Hope this works

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Ponkey · 20/07/2009 13:50

Hello,

Raggie, my little boy has the same problem. I've had an appointment on Friday where I was explained it wasn't anything to worry about indeed. They don't really know why it happens but basically the fluid goes in but doesn't come out.
Usually it is because there is too much pressure on the urethra. They say it normally clears out by itself but will need to be watch (they've probably booked you for a new scan in a few weeks).
If it doesn't clear, they'll give antibiotics after the birth for 6 weeks and that should sort the problem out.
It apparently affect 1 baby out of 100 and mostly little boys.
In case antibiotics aren't effective then they need to investigate but this is extremely rare...

I hope this helps but your midwife will surely give you better explanation than me ;)

Got my first appointment at UCLH on Friday (as I want to leave Whittington). Is anyone going there?

Also since last week my feet, ankles and hands are HUGE at the end of the day. Have order support tights and not looking forward to wearing them... Has anyone got the same problem?

have a lovely afternoon!

Ponkey

Koumak · 20/07/2009 14:02

Ponkey i am at UCHL, actually seing the MW later today. So far i have found the care really good. But love to hear your thoughts after first appointment!

beepbeep · 20/07/2009 14:30

Scorpion - Can just imagine your mum crawling round with a little one following - bless!! Unfortunately DS isn't even bum shuffling unless he gets really excited about something and flaps his arms enough (?!), just rolling, but he can get everywhere

Koumak - I don't think the bouty voucher for the bag had t be sent off - just taken into Boots to collect (mind be wrong mind!). If tell MW you lost form or something I'm sure she'll give you another book (mine has boxes full of them)

Enjoying bit of peace hee, both DCs are having naps - bliss.

Koumak · 20/07/2009 14:45

i want a nap too!

helips · 20/07/2009 15:05

koumak I haven't been tested, just described my symptoms to the doctor over the phone and they said it was swine flu. I was quite surprised as I almost didn't call them as I felt a bit of a fraud with not having a temperature.

Doctor just said to take paracetamol and rest and he wouldn't prescribe tamiflu unless I get any worse. But then I spoke to NHS direct who said I should be getting it as a matter of course because I am pregnant. So much conflicting advice, think I will just see how I feel over the next few days, at the moment it just feels like a cold so I am not too worried and don't want to take anything unless I have to.

Broodzilla · 20/07/2009 15:20

Hi Everyone!

I hope everyone with coldy/fluey things are feeling better. A friend of mine has been told to stay in the house for five days, and is on Tamiflu as they suspect she's got swineflu. I wonder if there's different strains going around as over in Suffolk where she is people are mostly getting upset tummies with it.

Welcome to Ponkey and tink!

Ponkey I got really swollen feet and ankles and found that getting in-step supports really helped (probably not so much with the swelling but definitely with the pain).

Beep I got my HIP form and MATB form last week at the 24 week check-up. One of my brothers never crawled, he just got up and started trying to walk (and ended up falling all over the place so much that mum made him wear a soft helmet in the house )

Scarlotti and all the other 2nd timers, I am at you going for nearly 3 months without seeing a midwife! You'd have thought they'd at least want to keep track of BP and urin and what not!

I forgot who asked about the travel insurance, but mine is from the Post Office. It was the best deal I could find for World Wide Cover (incl. US) and pregnancy.

I've had a very quiet weekend. DH was away and I was supposed to do lots of work, but I was SO tired I ended up napping every day. went to a place that sells nearly new stuff for babies and kids with a friend who's in her last trimester and... we both just felt over-whelmed by it all. Also, I must say while I have absolutely nothing against second hand clothes, I'm such a germaphobe that I nearly gagged at the used changing bags and breast pumps. I looked at a couple of bags that looked really nice on the outside but they were sticky and filled with crumbs on the inside. YUCK.

I'd assumed that we'd get told when to book appointments for the hospital tour and the labour/breastfeeding etc workshops at the hospital but my friend just told me that they expect us to do it ourselves, and as they only run once a month better get a move on! Called the hospital and found out they do tours and workshops on weekday mornings which is useless as DH would have to book time off work. He only has 5 days annual leave for "paternity leave" as it is, really don't want him to spend a day on workshops, but on the other hand I also don't want him to not have a clue about what's going on while I'm in labour.

Anyone else with a similar dilemma? What about you 2nd timers, do you think it's good for the dad-to-be to be there or would you just go to the workshops on your own? (I suppose, come to think of it, that there's not much he can do while I'm in labour anyway...)

so, so sorry for the ridiculously long post, AGAIN.

Broodzilla · 20/07/2009 15:28

One more thing though... I found a couple of "baby-manuals" in a charity shop over the weekend and thought I'd live up to my promise of reading up on babies rather than labour.
I've read The Baby Whisperer from cover to cover over the weekend and I LOVE it.

Just thought I'd recommend it for the other first timers. It's written in a really friendly tone, kind of like sitting down to have a chat with the author and I think it gives you lots of practical tips and info. I know the parenting style won't be to everyone's taste, but it's at the very least food for thought. I must say that I was convinced by it. If anyone with an actual baby has read it and disagrees with the concept, please do let me know.

katster37 · 20/07/2009 15:51

Broodzilla thanks for the book recommendation - am looking for something baby-manual wise at the minute, will see if I can find a copy!
Just had MW visit - a different one this time. She seemed really nice, quite hippy ish and very relaxed about everything! Was so funny, when she put the sonicaid on my tummy, the baby immediately gave a great big whack right where she put the probe, and her hand flew right back! Sorry, sounds cheesy, but it was so funny and sweet. Atleast, I hope it was sweet and not that baby has some kind of anger-management issue
Really sorry to hear of all this flu/cold/illness. So worrying when you're pregnant. Hopefully the whole pandemic is not half as bad as predicted.
I am packing, ironing and trying to find enough clothes for my hols! Don't be too chatty while I am away, it will be impossible to catch up!
xxx

ErikaMaye · 20/07/2009 18:37

I love my DP, I WILL not murder him.
I love my DP, I WILL not murder him.
I love my DP, I WILL not murder him...

Reckon it'll work if I keep on telling myself that? sighs MEN!!!!

BeckyBendyLegs · 20/07/2009 18:38

Hi Raggie I know the Cowley Road as DH lived just off there for a while and I used to go there to a really great second-hand vintage clothes shop near the bottom.

The Baby Whisperer is a good book - I found it a godsend with DS1 because he was so difficult to settle when he was a baby and she covers sleep very objectively I found and gives a good balanced opinion between 'leave them to cry themselves sick' vs 'keep them in your bed until they are 10 years old'. I liked her methods.

I am feeling much, much more than 24 weeks. I took the DSs to the library today and it was a struggle. My bottom really hurts, as if the baby is sitting on some nerves down there. I don't remember that with DS1 or DS2 until really late on.

When are you off on hols Katster? I doubt we'll be able to keep quiet

BeckyBendyLegs · 20/07/2009 18:41

PS for those with 'late' crawlers / bottom shufflers / walkers try not to worry too much. DS1 didn't walk until he was 21 months and DS2 was 17 months. They were both bottom shufflers before that but I can't remember what age they started shuffling but not before 12 months I don't think. I have a friend with a 10 month old and he is cruising already. It just looks bizarre to me! He looks so little and he's a danger to himself! He has no sense of danger at all whereas at least 'late' crawlers are more mature by the time they move.

Ponkey · 20/07/2009 18:53

Koumak > Ah! That's good to hear! I'm looking forward to go there on Friday. How is their new wing like? Is it all modern?
When are you due exactly?

funtimewincies · 20/07/2009 18:58

Can't believe how little some of you are seeing your MWs ! Maybe it's because of my mc history (seeing a consultant along the way certainly is) but I've been seen at 6 weeks, 12 weeks, 18 weeks, and I've got another appointment at 22 weeks. No MW has yet said that this is unusual for a second. I've also had scans at 7 weeks (bleeding), 11 weeks and 20 weeks.

Helips - I've also had a bad cold but without a temperature. I didn't bother phoning the GP because I presumed that you HAD to have a tempertaure for it to be flu/viral. Shows what I know !

Welcome to tinks .

scarlotti · 20/07/2009 19:24

I think that if we're on #2 or more they assume we know what to look out for and so don't need as much scheduled in time. With Ds I was treated as a first timer again as there is 11 years between him and Dd.
Apparently my m/c didn't count for extra monitoring as i only had 2 - you need 3 down here for it to matter

I had late walkers here too so nothing to worry about at all. Just think of it as other bits developing first. Ds took ages ith his gross motor skills (walking, crawling etc.) but could spot and pick up a tiny crumb from a really early age - put my housekeeping to shame

I used the Baby Whisperer with DS and thought it was great to be honest, easy concept to follow and got him into a good routine when I was ready.
The main thing is to try and go with what you think when baby is here - everyone will have an opinion so it's hard sometimes to follow your instincts, but it's usually right.

Remind me I said that in just over 4 months time

ursigurke · 20/07/2009 19:52

Hi and welcome to the newbies!
Difficult to catch up all information from the last 6 days.
Back from Austria where it has been extremely hot which made me suffer a bit. But it has been great to see family and friends. It makes me a bit sad that I won't see my niece and my nephew again until christmas. They will change so much.
Had met my gynaecologist as well, was really a nice appointment, had an extra scan as well.
As British newspapers seem to be talking about swine flu constantly I had asked her about her opinion and she said not to worry about it. I should take care about my immune system (taking lots of VitC,...) and otherwise flu couldn't really affect the baby anymore at this stage of the pregnancy as all the organs are already developed and only need to grow.
I hope this information helps those with cold/flu symptoms. (I find it really worrying that they would diagnose it over the phone, that makes you only nervous even if it might only be a normal cold).

Tamlin · 20/07/2009 20:13

Oxford girls, we used to live in Littlemore, at the end of the Iffley road. It was a lovely road, but unfortunately, there were a lot of problems spilling over from the Rose Hill estate while we were there - a pensioner got stabbed by a bunch of kids outside our house, and stuff got stolen from our garden all the time. Told DH flatly that I wasn't going to live there with a baby, and we jumped ship when I was seven months pregnant! My sister still lives up the top of Summertown, though, so I get back to Oxford fairly regularly. Miss sitting in the Kazbar on the Cowley on hot days, drinking too much sangria...

I had my twenty-four week appointment today, and this child was on form yet again. Every time she put the doppler on me to get the heartbeat, a determined foot or fist stuck out and smacked it, making a loud sound! The poor midwife was trying and trying, and the baby was squirming around, my belly forming little pointy hillocks as he fought the doppler off. (Hard not to think of the famous Alien scene, really...) Eventually the midwife got the giggles, which set me off. She said 'I have NEVER had this much trouble getting a heartbeat at a 24 week appointment!'

She also told me that she wants to test for GB Strep at my 36 week appointment, which is fab - they weren't doing it when I had DS two years ago. Am glad the NHS seems to have caught up on this one...

funtimewincies · 20/07/2009 20:21

Scarlotti - I've had 3 mcs on the trot, plus an ectopic before ds, so maybe that's it and they're just pretending it's all normal!

ErikaMaye · 20/07/2009 20:36

I've seen my MW four times, I think, or is it three, with a fourth meeting scheduled? But I can text her whenever I have a question, which is helpful, plus some family friends who are MW on hand. Next appointment she's doing bloods again groans and testing for diabetes, so I have to drink Lucozade before hand... Eww.

Funny that so many of you are from Oxford way - my DP is from there originally and that's where his parents are living

Just been out shopping, spent far too much but DP is having problems with food again, so needed it to be good quality so he's not so worried. And in the end, his happiness is more important to me than my bank balance!

PavlovtheForgetfulCat · 20/07/2009 20:44

scarlotti I loosely followed baby whisperer too, when DD was about 10-11 months old. It helped me to feel in control without being cruel, I felt like I was enabling DD, rather than forcing her to behave through forcing something that made me upset (ie CC) I found it gentle and empowering, but I also adapted it a little to suit her and me (it was my own fault her sleep was shite , i used to bf her to sleep)

katster37 · 20/07/2009 21:07

BBL we go tomorrow, at 6am! Just finished packing and I can't wait to get away now! Getting the Eurostar so no stress of flying (I need a few glasses of wine to get on a plane usually ) and got lots of nice books to read.

Tamlin my baby was doing exactly the same thing at my MW app today too!!! We both got the giggles, it was so lovely to see! He really does not seem to want his HB listened to! Also, the scan last week said he was breech, and I am feeling the most powerful kicks v low down (they actually hurt just lately) so am I right in presuming he is still breech? I know it doesn't mean anything this early on, but just like to know what your experiences are.

I have had MW appointments at 11, 18 and 22 weeks. Next one at 26 weeks...

ErikaMaye · 20/07/2009 21:25

Katster have a fab time, I'm jealous!!! I'm feeling kicks very low too, though at my scan baby was head down. He's an active little thing, move around an awful lot. Sometimes they're so low its a bit concerning - didn't know he could reach that far down! But they said everything was okay.

scarlotti · 20/07/2009 21:37

Happy holiday kaster pavlov I think any empowering theory has to be good. I had to give up bf with Ds as it wasn't working properly. This little one is definitely my last so I can see me being much more determined to get bf working and happily feeding to sleep and all sorts of other 'babying' antics in a bid to keep him a baby as long as possible!!!

Bidding on eBay for some totsbots nappies - very exciting! Going to do the reusable thing this time - there are so many lovely nappies and wraps around ... I can see this becoming a new shopping temptation for me...

PavlovtheForgetfulCat · 20/07/2009 22:00

Oh kicking, yes, in the cervix now that is a bit uncomfortable, especially when in a lift with male colleagues who might be a bit and at my pained face!!! . Baby just rolls and rolls, I think he uses the right side of my stomach to springboard from. He is most definitely a swimmer!!!

Tamlin · 20/07/2009 22:38

Did anyone else read the big Times article today on how breastfeeding benefits have been grossly overstated by the NHS? Bloody depressing, I must say... all that exhaustion to reduce the risk of gastroenteritis and precious little else? Apparently there's very little proof that it helps with the immune system, allergies, avoiding leukaemia etc...

PavlovtheForgetfulCat · 20/07/2009 22:55

tamlin whatever else it might do or not do, it provides free milk and eliminates the need for sterilsing/getting up at night to sort out a bottle. That is benefit enough for me!

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