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Due April 2009 - Chapter 25: Come Out, Come Out, Wherever you are!!!!!

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SmuttyNuttyTaff · 27/03/2009 22:52

a little something for the weekend?????

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Juwesm · 30/03/2009 08:26

Awwwww, huge congrats to WFH! A lovely bonny baby! And pretty punctual as well!

That makes it all seems one step closer to real....

brettgirl2 · 30/03/2009 08:47

Congratulations WFH - a baby at last yay. And what a weight!

Happy due date BB

Please can we have some more babies - I'm absolutely convinced that I'm going to go over. I will find out how engaged LO is tomorrow when go to MW (although not convinced this means much anyway). It's really quite ironic that for the 5th - 12th weeks of my PG I dreaded going to the toilet due to bleeding. NOW I'm willing that plug to appear!

brettgirl2 · 30/03/2009 08:49

Oh and ginger, I'm now going through worrying about everything to do with my health. It has moved on from last week when I was paranoid about the baby's.

AuldAlliance · 30/03/2009 08:53

Oh, congratulations WFH. Hope the sunroof heals fast and you get to go home quickly.
How exciting!

DS has a new calendar and today as he was changing the date from 29 to 30 with great relief as he was bored of the 2 not changing, I said there were only 2 days left until April. His face lit up and he said "And in April the baby comes!!!"

So here's to April and the babies coming thick and fast (with special emphasis on the fast).

AuldAlliance · 30/03/2009 08:59

Ginger, sorry to hear you are so down.
I think it's true that imminent motherhood makes you suddenly vulnerable and aware of your mortality. As I was trudging back from the PO earlier I had a sudden panic about what would happen to DS if I died in childbirth.

I am far more worried about giving birth than I was last time, because I now know what the pain can be like, because I'm tired out with looking after DS and worrying about DH, because I'm fretting about whether having had an episiotomy will affect my nether regions, because last time it nearly went so horribly wrong and I remember how worried DH was about possible consequences of DS's oxygen deprivation because of having the cord round his neck... Somehow having been through it all makes it more alarming than my worst imaginings were last time around.
But I came through it and so did DS, and we all will somehow or other.

purplemonkeydishwasher · 30/03/2009 09:02

YAYYYY!!! A BABY!!!!!!

congrats WFH!!!! and a 10 pounder! WOW!

Today I am 4 weeks away from my due date. so at the longest I have 6 weeks to wait. still feels pretty unreal that this is going to happen (mostly because i'm in denial!!)

ginger - - i know just how you feel. i've been sobbing uncontrollably a lot lately. DH keeps sayin 'what's wrong? can i do anything? was it something I've done?' when in fact it's nothing. and everything all at the same time. I was like this last time too. it's totally hormonal. but no fun.

Boffin - LOLOLOL at your DH's "holiday". my DH keeps saying he'll get some stuff done around the house when he's on pat leave. hahahahahahahahahahaha. not only has he forgotten what it's like to have a newborn but he's forgetting to factor DS into the equation! (though knowing him he'll just say his mom will take DS...and that's a BIG NO.)

PuzzleRocks · 30/03/2009 09:08

A baby, yippee.

Many, many, many congrats WFH, the founder of the April 09 ladies.
What a fantastic size. I hope you are both doing well. I can't wait to hear more details.
Take care family FreshHell.

PuzzleRocks · 30/03/2009 09:10

Happy due date BB.

surprisenumber3 · 30/03/2009 09:13

WOOHOO - a BIG baby!! Congrats WTFH - hope you make a speedy recovery.

Happy due date BB, hope you are next!

Off to GP in a minute, will update when I get back.

mrsfossil · 30/03/2009 09:28

congrats to WFH hope your on your feet soon

how is everyone else doing?

Had mw check this week and my bp is up slightly, not that high but high for me as i ususally have v.low bp. No other symtoms apart from swollen ankles.

i feel v.tired and tearful this morning, have shouted at dh for no reason and scared ds. Actually feel bit like pmt, really wound up and panicky. Really can't wait now just want to feel normal again. (sorry for moan)

PuzzleRocks · 30/03/2009 09:32

Good morning MrsF. I think you are entitled to the odd rant at this stage. People will understand. It's not great for your blood pressure to bottle up emotions so get it out and don't feel too bad.

BabyBolat · 30/03/2009 09:32

Oh mrsfossil - don't feel too bad - we all have days like that ((hugs))

I am so excited that babies are starting! Yay!!

Ginger, how you feeling today?

BoffinMum · 30/03/2009 09:42

Congratulations, WhatFreshHell!!
You have practically given birth to an adult from the sound of it!!!! So huge!!!
Thank god for the sunroof option!!!!

Ginger, I hope everything is OK, and please don't worry about illness and mortality because the risks of this are less than driving. xx

Will post birth stories for MM in a moment.

BoffinMum · 30/03/2009 09:48

MM, labours went like this.

Episode 1 of The Labours of Boff

First time was ten days early. I didn't even realise I was in labour because it didn't hurt particularly, and I was expecting something a lot worse. Waters had broken a tiny little bit overnight, with some very slight leaking. Called the mw. She came over and announced I couldn't have a home birth because the baby's head wasn't engaged which meant I had cephalo-pelvic disproportion (total bollox as it later transpired). Told me to mosey on into hospital later that day when I was ready, and that I would probably need a cs. However I had a business lunch to cook, as DP was networking, so pottered around doing that. As I was about to dish up dessert, I realised all hell was breaking loose down there, and that I had been having contractions all morning, most probably, but that I just hadn't noticed. I sank to all fours and carried on directing the business lunch. I then realised this was stupid and asked someone to call me a taxi. We waited 45 minutes but the taxi never came because they don't like having women in labour in their cabs, I realise now. I then thought 'shit, this is getting pretty imminent' so we rang an ambulance and I was blue lighted in, still on all fours. By the time I got there I was pushing. But they messed me about, moving me from room to room, telling me not to push, making me have gas and air, making me give urine samples and so on, which made the pain psychologically unbearable all of a sudden. I then thought to myself 'this is out of hand. I am fucking well having maximum drugs now' and threatened a mw with the gas and air tank so they would get me an epidural. Anaesthetist came down straight away as I was being so aggressive, and talked me down and sorted me out, lovely man. Labour then stopped. After a couple of hours things apparently hotted up again (I couldn't feel it though) and they told me to push. I pushed for over an hour, realising with horror the only bit of me that wasn't anaesthetised was my poor fanjo area. The room filled with people, including stupid mw that had made me go in. Eventually I managed to push the poor child out. She was fine, I had massive tears that took an hour for a specialist to stitch up. They gave me a private room out of pity, but the next morning I discharged myself because the hospital was filthy and nobody was around to help with babies, and you had to do it all yourself, whereas at home I knew I would have help. I left with a nasty hospital acquired infection as a souvenir, and a mild case of post traumatic stress disorder.

Episode 2
I decided to have a home water birth after a lot of homework into risks and benefits. There was a London mw shortage at the time, so I ended up hiring my own independent one. I woke up in the morning at the usual time, five days past the due date on New Year's Day and realised something was going on because I was having regular contractions 3 minutes apart (no other clues at all, although there had been a bit of cleaning and tidying going on a day or two before, and I had spent New Year's Eve sitting on a bucket in front of the TV as that was the only thing that was comfortable). I rang the mw and DH filled up the birthing pool. I walked around for about an hour with the TENS machine on and then the mw arrived on her motorbike . I got into the pool and I think it took about three hours after that. We only had a tiny hot water tank as I was in a minute housing association flat, but DH boiled kettles and pans of hot water to keep it at the right temperature. I pushed for about 20 minutes and it was not too bad at all. After the birth I sprang out thinking 'I could do that again'. Dead easy. Never much show, never any waters, DS1 born in a caul (in membranes).

Episode 3
Nasty miscarriage because I had had the flu. Bled dramatically all over A and E. Let's not go there. 3 days in hospital, surgery, very ill, depressed, the works.

Episode 4
Same as Episode 2 except it was on the NHS with a lovely community mw, and took about half an hour less and there was a definite show when I got up (but I was not sure what it was at the time, as I had never had one before). I had been having pre-labour pains for weeks and DS2 ended up being 18 days overdue. Nesting had involved tiling the kitchen on this occasion, a clear sign of imminent labour IMO, in retrospect. Pushing took half an hour, but required much more effort, and DS2 had his hand by his head when he came out, Superman style. Both he and I were pretty knackered afterwards. DS2 born in a caul like his brother.

Episode 5
????!!! to be continued ...

gingersarah · 30/03/2009 09:52

I am so thrilled about WFH's baby! And happy due date to BB - this is itg!

Thank you to the experienced people who said worrying about mortality is normal - that makes sense, it has never really mattered before. I have a GP appointment at 3.30 and I am sure it is all nothing but someone else on mn (posted on the health board) had something like this and was told straight away at her surgery that it should always be checked out - which is what I found when I looked on the magic internet (I know, I know) a month ago. So I am going to get it checked out just so that I have done the most responsible thing.
I am annoyed with the GP who was very patronising and seemed to think I was worried about leaky nipples and kept telling me again and again it was normal - I KNOW but one was bloody. Also seemed to think I was causing it myself by prodding or something but I just found the blood in my bra - which I explained. Also sent a swab for infection when there was no sign at all of any infection, no pain or pus or heat or pinkness or anything, so of course that was negative. Now there is a change in shape and texture and I wish I had insisted on a referral before instead of allowing myself to be fobbed off because there were other things that GP said which were just silly. I am probably overreacting because of all the things you wise women have said about suddenly feeling responsible for so much more than myself, also because I only recently went to a funeral, also general hormonal silliness. but I had 2 aunts who died of b cancer and I have always been advised to check my breasts and I would like to have these worries dismissed by someone who seems sensible rather than by the idiot I saw a month ago who clearly had "dismissing the silly pg woman" top of her agenda rather than looking into it properly. Sorry about the longness and TMI of all this.

Anyway it is a lovely sunny day so I won't think of it again till 3.30. Springy I am so sorry to hear about the SPD. over soon! Remember your popcorn theory! This is so exciting.

Is everyone off work on maternity leave now or is anyone still toiling?

BoffinMum · 30/03/2009 09:58

Ginger, I think there are two problems here. One is the natural concern with mortality. The other is a genuine breast issue that you have sensibly picked up on. Ignore moron GP at all costs and get referred - pay if you have to. This guy is very good.

Ian Fentiman

BoffinMum · 30/03/2009 10:01

More on Fentiman.

Private consultation details

His NHS work is at Guy's, I think.

AuldAlliance · 30/03/2009 10:02

Ginger, it sounds to me as if, beyond possible maternity-linked fears, you are right to feel that your GP is being crap. The signs you mention shouldn't be dismissed and you need to see someone sensible and sensitive rather than that pillock.

Northernlurker · 30/03/2009 10:02

Am just imposing to say to WFH a massive WELL DONE on the birth of your son! I am so thrilled for you Hope you recover well and soon.

To the rest of you - get a move on!

AuldAlliance · 30/03/2009 10:03

Cross-posted with BoffinMum...am cooking and MNing at the same time, takes a bit of juggling. Not to mention the mess.

BoffinMum · 30/03/2009 10:04

Now Ginger, another Boff thought, and I don't want to panic you, but you need to be assertive in getting the right attention, as even though it is highly likely to be benign and something to do with milk ducts or whatever, if there is any chance at all it is malignant, in pg these things develop faster than normal, so need quicker attention. Don't even let them fob you off with a standard two week wait if this can be avoided.

BoffinMum · 30/03/2009 10:12

Ginger, young women only comprise 5% of breast cancer cases, which can mean avoidable delays in treatment as people don't quite believe you have it, hence why the GP might be being a bit unhelpful here. They don't want to hear hooves and see a zebra rather than a horse, so to speak.

BoffinMum · 30/03/2009 10:14

More breast stuff, this time on the benign side of things:

Benign breast disorders (BBD), classified by the ANDI system (aberrations of normal development and involution), constitute the major workload in breast clinics. Breast pain (mastalgia) is classified as cyclical, and non-cyclical extramammary causes such as ribircage pain have to be identified. Most patients need reassurance alone but those with moderate/severe pain present for > 6 months may need treatment: randomised trials have shown danazol, bromocriptine and tamoxifen to be effective. Fibroadenoma is the commonest benign solid lump in women aged 15-30 years. The diagnosis must be confirmed by triple assessment. Cysts occur usually in women of middle to late reproductive life. After ultrasound has confirmed the lump as cystic, it can be aspirated. Nipple discharge should be tested for the presence of haemoglobin (Hb). Those with HB+ discharge may require microdochectomy for treatment and diagnosis, common causes being duct papilloma and duct ectasia. Breast abscesses may occur during lactation or in women with duct ectasia and are treated by incision or aspiration together with antibiotics.

2001: Hamed H; Fentiman I S
Benign breast disease.
International journal of clinical practice 2001;55(7):461-4.

gingersarah · 30/03/2009 10:35

Thanks Boffin - I will push for a referral, I am seeing a different GP today.
I am sure this will all seem like nothing soon

Bleuravin · 30/03/2009 10:52

Morning all. Just back from the dentist... have a temporary fix until after the baby is born. It was all very quick and stressless...but I've got what I think are contractions again (the rolling pains down my back and a tight belly)... They started while I was on the chair and nearly made me jump off it... I just closed my eyes and thought of calming things and they eased a bit. Hopefully I can stay relaxed today and things will happen as they happen.

No news from Clairey but I'll text her this afternoon to see how things are.

Super thrilled about WFH's baby boy! SO nice.

Sorry about the SPD Springy, take it easy.

Ginger I started flipping out about my health on the way home from the dentist... Hopefully everything turns out ok with you.

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