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BabyBolat · 27/01/2009 22:06

Here we go again....

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NuttyTaff · 31/01/2009 11:55

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gingersarah · 31/01/2009 11:56

Good morning everyone,
Thanks for all the sympathy! I am so lucky to have all you lot sending me good messages and useful information.
Sounds like there is lots of suffering among us and many mobility problems.

Boffin, I don't think you or your DH need to do anything drastif if it would make you uncomfortable. I think it would.

GGGGGGGGGRRRRRRRRR I just dragged myself to answer the door for a pathetic sales call.

BoffinMum · 31/01/2009 12:04

That's OK, GingerSarah, how are you feeling today??

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BoffinMum · 31/01/2009 12:06

Auld, I am wondering if you feel sorry at all for Dati or if you think she is too much of a political carnivore to feel sorry for?

Bleuravin · 31/01/2009 12:07

Lol ladies, I'd love to go hooting and hollering through a shopping centre like a wild child
I am trying to take it easy, it's just I need to keep myself occupied or slip into a 'dwelling time.' I'm really fighting the homesickness...If MY family were around I'd have people dropping in and helping with all my little projects...but ILs are too far away (1 1/2 hrs) and view coming over has some sort of 'big deal' or 'special occation.'
After this weekend though in all honesty the big stuff should be done; I'll be down to painting and sewing...and general upkeep, so it might not be too bad actually. DH actually has been EXTREMELY good this week. He's cut down on the cycling and helped get things done so that I'm less stressed about ILs being over. I owe him a special thanks.

gingersarah · 31/01/2009 12:12

Hi Boffinmum

physically a lot better but mentally dipping again.

I have never been so lonely in my whole life! I love my own company but I realise now that I have always loved it partly because I love to get on with things at my own pace, see things, do things, walk a lot. Now I feel so lost. Any time someone approaches me with something kind it practically makes me cry with gratitude. I am trying to work out some way that I can go out tonight to my friend's gig and wondering if I am being completely mental to consider it.

AuldAlliance · 31/01/2009 12:13

Nutty, one lot were shown round by an agent, so I don't know how that one went. The other viewer, who is dealing directly with the owner, liked the house a lot but said that the fact that is was north-facing and therefore lacking in natural light was a fairly big no-no. Don't know how well she looked at everything, as I stayed in the kitchen working while she wandered up all the stairs, but she didn't see the loo and basin in the corner of the topmost bedroom, so God only knows what she was looking at. Maybe opening our bedside drawers and having a good neb at the bookcase?

I have to say that I'm very restrained and feel a bit hypocritical; the house looks onto a little, basically pedestrian square, which is all very picturesque and charming. But in summer it is another story: the day we moved in, a bloke came and sat beneath our windows with a little case, like a flute case, took out a huge knife and began ostentatiously sharpening it. That was when we realised that the square, so quaintly hidden from view, was the dealers' territory. In the first months, DH was threatened several times, and when he reported the threats to police was told that he'd got off lightly and if we were in Marseille he'd probably already have a fractured skull.
The dealers have moved elsewhere, but in summer the square is full of kids, some as young as 3, with no adult supervision, who run amok till 11 or 12pm, sing, dance, draw everywhere, prise up paving stones and attack one another with them... We spend a lot of time explaining basic rules of life in society to them, and protecting DS from unprovoked attacks (and from thinking this is normal, acceptable behaviour).
When viewers ooh and ah about the lovely square, I say "Yes, it's calm at this time of year isn't it?", and say no more unless they ask. I feel a bit mean; I would have liked to have been warned about the square before moving in. But the worst is over, with the dealers gone.
Should I be more upfront with viewers? (Moral maze of the day, ladies!)

AuldAlliance · 31/01/2009 12:23

Boffin I feel a bit sorry for R. Dati because I think she was manipulated by Sarko, who appointed her partly because of her origins (which isn't necessarily a bad thing in a country where minorities are utterly invisible in public spheres, the media, etc., but I'm not entirely sure she was really suitable as Justice Minister).
He then ordered her to push through drastic reforms, which she dutifully did in the face of mass outcry and opposition - possibly detrimental to her future election - before forcing her (IMO) to return to work just after having a baby and then dropping her like a hot potato and condemning her to the wilderness of the European Pmt (that is, if she is elected). One theory is that she was his ex-wife's protégée and since marrying Carlita he has turned against her. Maybe so: he is such a fickle, egotistical little man that I wouldn't be surprised.

But having heard her being very, very rubbish in interviews on the radio, I'm not overly convinced of her abilities and, in a superficial way, I think she's a bit pushy and unlikeable. So my sympathy is limited by my perhaps unjustified aversion to her personality!

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gingersarah · 31/01/2009 12:27

AuldAlliance - don't worry about it. Just nod and smile. I understand your qualms but really, it is going beyond the call of duty to undermine your own property for sale. It is not something you are responsible for - it is not like omitting to mention something about the house itself, like the roof is rotting or something. It is not something you caused or could change so I would shrug (gallicly, as the cliche goes) and try to forget about it.

Bleuravin · 31/01/2009 12:28

Poor ginger, I think you should try to go out if it will cheer you, but have things prepared incase you're miserable and want to go home. I often find going out at least takes my mind off things.

BoffinMum · 31/01/2009 12:32

Auld, do not breathe a word about the square. You would be insane to do so. Caveat Emptor - they can always hang out there themselves and see what it's like.

Interesting about Dati. I think that's my reading as well. But I don't think she's the most talented politician.

Ginger, I know from bitter experience that the psychological toll of SPD is much, much worse than the physical toll. If you can do something each day that is very gentle on your joints that involves human contact, you will feel a lot less like curling up into a ball and dying. I talked about this with my consultant because I was really very worried I would end up topping myself, but she was great and explained that this is a normal reaction to a young woman having her mobility taken away.

gingersarah · 31/01/2009 12:33

That Sarkozy is such a brat. He has that same kickable air of smugness that makes people hate Ronaldo. How does he get away with it?

AuldAlliance · 31/01/2009 12:33

Yes, but it's not our house: we are merely tenants. So it's no skin off my nose if they buy or not.

BoffinMum · 31/01/2009 12:34

I am off into town now for lunch and a spot of light shopping with my boys. See you later folks. xx

NuttyTaff · 31/01/2009 12:36

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gingersarah · 31/01/2009 12:43

Thank you Nutty, thank you Boffin. Things could really be a lot worse! DP is being lovely to me.
And, as you have all said, thank goodness for the internet!

This has made me think a lot more about disability and access. Since I stopped being able to physically be present at all sorts of crucial but totally ad hoc meetings I was not invited to (just not nifty enough to spot them happening and muscle in) I have become so marginalised at work. The actual content of my job is several grades more junior than it was a few months ago because my boss does not proactively share any strategic information so anyone who wants to get involved has to push themselves forward. I have long known that there is a kind of hustle to not being marginalised in this kind of culture, but it is interesting to see how much of it is physical - even if i am actually in the building I can still be completely invisible.
(And I have not had a meeting with my boss about me, my maternity leave, my doing 2 and a half jobs, etc, at all - since November - you would think he might think we should perhaps catch up about all that at some point, let alone ask how I am after two weeks' sick leave.)

Anyway if I am lucky - and I really hope I am - all this is very temporary in my case but very much food for thought.

AuldAlliance · 31/01/2009 12:43

Ginger, he's finally gone to far for many people, which is why the uni staff and researchers have called for an all-out strike.

He gave a vile, supercilious, vulgar speech last week in which he bobbed about and explained sneeringly that apart from in maths and physics all researchers were useless dossers sponging off the state and refusing to be assessed on their work, and that his reforms (which are opposed by almost everyone in the university and research field, of all political persuasions) were perfectly justified in view of the crapness of research in France. His arguments were utterly flawed and illogical and I don't think I have ever heard a politician, far less a head of state, speak so rudely and sneeringly about anything (well, with the exception of Mugabe, perhaps). He even said to his audience (including heads of most research institutes in the country) that if they didn't agree with him, he couldn't understand what they were doing there; or actually he could, because after all the room had light and heating - implying that they were basically dossing there, taking advantage of the free electricity, but were too thick to understand his brilliant ideas.

One of his many reforms aims to push through legislation without the opposition being able to propose too many amendments, cause after all debate gets in the way of dictatorship.

Sorry for all these long posts: I have got a bee in my bonnet about him since seeing that speech and discovering just what a nasty piece of work he is.

BabyBolat · 31/01/2009 13:15

Afternoon all,

Well have kind of had a productive but slow morning - been in to town got some bits for the baby (and realised how much extra stuff there still is to buy) and all the necessary paint for the rest of the furniture bits and some stuff for my hospital bag (oh the joy of paper pants and maternity pads!) but DH hasn't even started the rocking chair and we have family down tomorrow - LO is now doing somersaults inside my tummy and causing all sorts of sea sickness!!

Auld good about the viewers grr for arrogant politicians!

Frekkles had to go back to the hospital this week so they might have given her an operation or kept her in for observation.

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BoffinMum · 31/01/2009 18:39

Gingersarah, I am so pleased you are getting support at home, but the sad fact of the matter is that it is very easy to get marginalised at work in the way that you describe, and particularly if you have an insensitive boss. I hope you manage to regain lost ground once you are back after having the baby. I suppose you do have the option of pointing all this out to your boss diplomatically, but that is always easier said than done IMO.

NuttyTaff · 31/01/2009 18:49

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BoffinMum · 31/01/2009 19:06

Sorry, I was going to post something about my Big Day Out but DD came in and told me to look at these links (warning: strong language and you may need a Tena lady pad).

Background: Every time he does a show, this guy bumps Matt Damon so he never gets interviewed (in real life they are good friends!)

Original confession by Sarah Silverman, Jimmy Kimmel's girlfriend:
uk.youtube.com/watch?v=WLG3S5WzHig

Ripost by Jimmy Kimmel:
uk.youtube.com/watch?v=j_pFTAY7MF8&feature=related

NuttyTaff · 31/01/2009 19:15

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