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Due Dec 08 - Braxton hicks, baby kicks and leaking nips!

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Veggiemummy · 25/09/2008 17:59

that was Disenchanted's idea for a great title not mine

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Olipop · 01/10/2008 13:40

Oh my god - just had a massive hormonal and embarassing outburst .
Met DH for lunch (as we do every wed in the same pub)...he made a couple of comments that I am sure a reasonable person would not take personally (stuff about building work we are doing and one mildly contentious remark about 'having a baby, not your legs amputated' but said in jest) and I had to rush to the loo and cried my eyes out! Managed to get it together to come out and then had to run from the pub to cry outside. Lots of people came to check on the 'mad pregnant woman blubbing in the street'. It took me ages to get it together. Came back to work and had to spend 30 mins in the loo recovering. Feel okish now but couldn't stop crying! I think he thinks I'm a nutter! Actually ...I think I am a nutter! Please tell me you are all the same!

JollyBear · 01/10/2008 13:47

Hello everyone,

Reban I'm really sorry to hear about these growth concerns. I hope your next appointment goes much better and things get back on track.

mibbes Is your nursery all done now? I'm so jealous of your organisational skills!

Urgh, plastic sheets would be so sweaty. I think I'll invest in some cheap bedding and shove a few towels under the bottom sheet! beans You can get 100% cotton sheets from Tesco for cheap - not very hard wearing but would do the job. polyester would be a bit of a shock after your swanky bedding!

I did some internet ordering from mothercare yesterday - all essentials - Moses basket mattress, bedding, baby sling etc and the sling has arrived already. I'm tempted to shove one of the cats in it to try it out, not sure they'd enjoy it much though!

emmanbump · 01/10/2008 13:49

Oh Oli poor you. Hope you feel better. Choc might help boost your endorphines. I had an emotional outburst the other night on the way home (a few weeks ago) I was tired and the journey home was a nightmare. My tube changed destination so I had to get off and wait for another one and ended up blubbing on the platform. I didn't care though just got it all out and felt fine after.

SummerLightning · 01/10/2008 13:52

Oh dear oli!!
I have to say I have been ok most of the time, but have to admit to several crazy moments! The worse was probably a big temper while knackered at about 14 weeks, I was driving back from a hen do, and was exhausted, we hit a traffic jam and I stalled when restarting, the guy behind me helpfully beeped his horn (totally pointless, as there was nowhere to go anyway!), but I just lost it and went mental and started revving the engine and threatening to get out of the car and beat the guy up (just for beeping his horn), and crying in a crazy fashion. Eventually I swapped driving with DH (who had refused to drive because he was too hungover from the equivalent stag do, how unfair!) and calmed down, but my friend was also in the car and she must have been a bit scared.

To be honest, I have the odd enormous strop/outburst like this when I am not pregnant though

lol at the 'having a baby, not your legs amputated' comment, charming

JollyBear · 01/10/2008 13:55

Oh olipop

Olipop · 01/10/2008 13:58

thank you emmanbump...its so strange though isnt' it...totally uncontrollable. I'm laughing about it now but it felt like the end of the world earlier!

Veggiemummy · 01/10/2008 13:58

oh Oli you poor thing, the only thing i can say is once he watches ou go through child birth he may apoloise for that comment, it does ten to humble most men (i had one friend vow in the birthing suite to his wife she would never have to work again after watching her give birth). i am also very hormonal, some days remarks just slide away and i barely notice them then on other days they leave me close to tears. I practically bit a close friends head off on the weekend because he said how massive i was, he skulked away saying i was just joking, then i remembered that it was a little in joke we'd been having whenever we saw each other because he knew other people said it and how stupid a comment it is.

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Olipop · 01/10/2008 14:00

Oh keep the crazy reaction comments coming they are making me feel better!!!!

rosmerta · 01/10/2008 14:00

olipop agree with the chocolate idea, men just don't get it! When I was pg with ds I had a huge outburst when the train I was on was suddenly diverted down the wrong branch & miles from where I need to be. The poor guard at the station looked a bit scared & hurriedly ordered me a taxi to take me home, saying SWT would pay!

turnip thanks for the echinecea tip, will probably pop out this afternoon & pick some up.

Got a letter from the hospital today to tell me I'm slightly aneamic and need to increase my iron intake so also need to stock up on my leafy veg etc.

Veggiemummy · 01/10/2008 14:14

when i was pregnant with DS DH & i were on a bus to our NCT class in the morning (we did the 2 full day one) when the whole bus stopped and everyone got kicked off for no apparent reason, well of course i gave the bus driver and earfull and spent the 30min walk (waddle) to the class ranting about the state of the bus system and how i would right a stern letter to make sure we got our 90p each back. DH just walked and listened to me rant on popping in bits here and there about how we could probably live with out the £1.80 but patiently letting me rant. I felt terrible a couple of hours later when we heard that they had had to stop because of the bombings and where being redirected to central london to get people out of the city center. needless to say i never wrote my stern letter.

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SummerLightning · 01/10/2008 14:22

To be honest I have strops like all of the above when I'm not pregnant though!!

I friend of ours told us that his wife was really "pleasant and placid" throughout her pregnancy! DH spent about an hour intermittently shaking his head, laughing, and muttering the word "placid" to himself. Cheeky bugger.

Turniphead1 · 01/10/2008 14:23

Ahhhh poor Oli I so feel for you. I have had a few of these this time around (following our disatrous week in Scotland where I was left on my own with the two kids).

First time around - I had a massive one in John Lewis ostensibly about DH not caring whether we bought a camcorder (Me:, sobbing loudly for all to see "I CAN'T believe you don't care enough about our unborn child to CARE to record his or her first moments" Him - looking on silently in disbelief at the previously rational woman and wondering was it a good idea to actually breed with her).

In fairness, he has learnt a lot through previous pgs now to get into the same hot water. he probably would have counselled your DH against the "leg/amputation" comment.

Hope you feel better soon! (and the response to the amputation comment is "Exactly - you get a bloody general anaesthetic when you get your leg amputated and it takes an hour".

Beans the savoy cabbage is a great tip. It's only for day 3/4 for when your milk comes in and you are engorged, as far as I know. I can't tell you how amazed you feel when you take a limp FULLY COOKED cabbage leaf from your bra. Wow - my breasts just cooked cabbage - who knew.

Another tip for the engorgement is to have your breast pump set up and know vaguely how to use it - as you can express a tiny bit off as the baby can find it hard to latch onto a fully engorged nip!

daisydora · 01/10/2008 14:27

oli - you are def not alone.

I regularly have emotional outbursts!! A couple on the train, including one where my SPD was playing up, no seats and train to hot...I just stood on a packed train & wept. Very nice lady offered me her seat and tried to usher me in it with least fuss possible saying she had been there...was so ashamed...

Olipop · 01/10/2008 14:43

Oh that is kind daisy...I must say, whilst I was sobbing in the street (down a little side road..not the middle of fleet st or anything!) loads of people came to offer me tea, water, tissues and a seat! It was very sweet but made me cry even more! My DH was left in the pub wondering what to do and being given evils by everyone who thought he'd upset the poor pregnant girl! Hehehe!

I really don't think men get the fact that you need a bit of slack though and lots of cossetting. I don't feel I'm getting the sympathy this time round. Or is that my sensitivity coming out again!!!!

Beans33 · 01/10/2008 14:43

I'm a bit jealous of these outbursts. Tend to keep things to myself apart from the odd teary moment for no apparent reason, but try to do that on my own. I have been doing a lot of flicking the "v"s when DH's back is turned. Imagine my horror when I did it next to our window and he saw my reflection. Oops! It is such a satisfying way of getting rid of frustration though. might be childish, but it works!

He's just told me that he's going to be away for 2 separate weeks in January on courses with work - oh and one weekend with friends as well. I'm invited, but doubt I'll be able to go as they're all massive boozers and won't want a baby waking them up in the middle of the night. I've already warned my Mum I'll be coming to stay!!!

rosmerta · 01/10/2008 15:01

beans lol @ your dh catching you!

Another tip for engorged breasts is a hot flannel put on the breast for a minute or so. I think this helps to 'loosen' everything up!

Veggiemummy · 01/10/2008 15:23

hot baths for sore engorged boobies, and watch the mild dribble out a bit icky but feels soooo much better and poor baby can actually get his mouth around it. oh and nice way to relax too.

i have been reading some of the responses to Oli's lunchtime tragedy to DH, he is giving a rye smile and saying they'll learn eventually (meaning the DH's) DH has only occsionally had a slip but has learnt to not do it again poor thing. He is generally very good and looks after me very well, esp as he knows how hard it s when he is away.

Beans that is going to be hard with DH away wwhen your baby is little, but you can do it, maybe you could arrange for a friend to pop over just so you can have a shower and soeone to chat to. also you always have us to chat to.

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Veggiemummy · 01/10/2008 15:41

just on the side i know there are a couple of fella anti-nestle ladies on this thread have you heard about this thing that is goin on in Switzerland where Nestle sent in a spy to work on an anti nestle book so they good garner information about anti-nestle work aroun the world. i have linked it here if your interested.

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Veggiemummy · 01/10/2008 15:41

sorry that should have been fellow not fella i'm not saying your are fellas.

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Bisou · 01/10/2008 16:53

Hi everyone! Big long catch up needed, so sorry as I haven't posted for ages. Feel free to skip ahead... (I've been copying bits as I read so that I could catch up eventually)

rosmerta regards immigrating to Auz, did you ever check out skilled labour options? Are you training/working as a midwife or health care professional? My mother who is a midwife herself says she could pretty much get a job in any country as demand is always so high for trained midwives.

I had some sort of notes about taking snacks in for labour? Can't remember what that was about. Anyway my mother told me you can always tell when a woman is truly in labour as she feels more like vomiting than eating (!) Although I reckon one would be ravenous afterwards.

Lovely pics from all the ladies who have put them up! Keep em coming, they are great

hatty I was so sorry to hear about your DH's work situation, and also the eye problem and suspected prostate cancer with your FIL. My father had his prostate removed just last month after being diagnosed with prostate cancer, and he's just been given the 'all clear' from his recent PSA (prostate specific antigen) test which is such a relief. If the cancer is contained within the prostate (stage 1) then the odds are good for survival. My dad had his removed rather than go through chemo, and has had a fantastic recovery thus far. Hope the outcome is also good for your FIL.

Effie regards having property management for real estate in London - do be sure to research the company, and make sure there is a 'get out' clause in the contract just in case you are not happy with them. I've been really unhappy with the agents managing my property in Upper Norwood, and am about to give them the sack. Management fees are really very high in London so make sure you shop around, haggle for a better price (lower percentage) and in my experience bigger is not necessarily better. I'm going to be going with a small local management firm next - the big company that currently manage my property are so hopeless at contacting me and returning my many many emails (grr!)

Beans, I LOVE that santa suit, it's hilarious! I am now on the lookout for a 'summer' (short sleeve/legs) version here in Oz, I've been told they sell them at a few stores closer to Christmas time, as there's nothing online that I can find as yet. Our baby also has 2 super hero outfits already (one was a gift) in slightly bigger sizes, so I can just see now this poor kid is going to be a comic/sci-fi nerd in no time...

Turnip what a classic quote from the Ina May Gaskin book ("Gates of Life")!! I'll have to read it now of course. My mother (also a qualified naturapath) has lent me some of her natural birth and water birth books and they are an interesting read. One of them is called Birth Without Violence which is a bit extreme in some parts, but did have some interesting ideas in it. I think it's been a while since they held babies up by their feet after birth though (it was written in the mid 70's).

Re: dilemma about what to do for Christmas. We're a couple of hours drive from our families, and two weeks late would mean a Christmas baby for me. So we've decided to be undecided and wait to see how we feel once/when this bub chooses to come. I've felt a lot better since deciding not to worry about it. Family will understand either way with whatever we choose to do, and they will come and visit us if we don't end up going to spend Christmas with them.

LadyThompson I also agree your DP should give up drinking while you are pregnant if he expects you to abstain. My DH and I don't really drink much alcohol normally, however I was getting jealous that he was drinking cola all the time in front of me so he vowed to give it up for the length of my pregnancy! I am a lucky lady.

waitinggirl and Turnip - regards the "Sphincter Law" - have you seen the video on youtube of the woman singing whilst having contractions? I found it really interesting. Link here but it comes with a kleenex warning for those feeling teary/emotional

emmanbump - grr at unhelpful people making comments about not being organised/cost of baby stuff. They should mind their own business, and anyway it doesn't have to be expensive. For example, for anyone buying a cot wanting to save money, I would recommend having a look on ebay. We got these (matching cot, chest of drawers and change table) for a steal for a total of Auz $91 (£40) and they are so fantastic! No teeth marks or anything and actually in much better condition than we expected. My BIL who lives in Lancaster did a similar thing; they got their cot for about £45 on ebay UK. We bought a new piece of Dunlop matress foam for ours @ $40 (£17) for which I am making 2 waterproof covers and 2 fitted sheets for (cost for these should be less than £35). So it is possible to do things cheaply but still get quality if you go second hand (I wouldn't buy a second hand mattress or sheets though).

Veggie - "I usually wash in cold" - this is a rare thing in the UK! I found it so difficult finding a machine that even did a cold wash when I lived there, and considering machines are mostly cold fill these days, doing warm/hot washes not only costs electricity but also generates build up on the element inside the machine especially in hard water areas like London. There are some occasions one needs to do warm washes though of course. Luckily here the sun's ultraviolet rays do a great job of disinfecting and drying quickly. But I reckon that the lack of cold wash machines in the UK is simply because manufacturers want people to have to replace them sooner.

poisondwarf and zoejeanne also watch out for MSG (flavouring number 621) if you get heart palpitations. My mum gets them when she eats anything with MSG in it. I try and avoid all of the glutamates (anything beginning with 62) as well as other colorings & preservatives if possible. It's amazing how much crap goes into some packaged food!

Also thanks for the info about leg cramps poisondwarf and veggie - I was worried as I've had some myself too. I've had suspected DVT in the past, so was going to ask a doctor about it. Will look into the magnesium/calcium/banannas/more water solutions too.

Kimberly I'm a cleaning addict at the moment too. I scrubbed the bathroom floor for almost two hours recently, very unlike me! We've just moved into a rental property and I've got many years' worth of built up grime to get rid of, blargh.

chutney GRRR to the man who fell on you! What a twat. Karma will bite him in the bum for that, I have no doubt!

waitinggirl I'm sorry it must be so worrying for you with your deadline looming. And here I am not having sent you any info to you by email, I feel so bad! Is there any specific topic I can offer experience on for your references? I'm having some trouble with reflux/gerd again if that's something that relates? Anyway good to hear that your mw thinks you have good abdominal muscles - must be the singing! Hopefully it will help you with the birth.

zoejeanne I use a pillow between my legs at night and find it really good too. DH just has to put up with it, although it does help that we sleep on a queen size bed (which I think is a bit bigger than a UK queen size but not quite as big as a king).

poisondwarf as the others have said, you have a right to see your notes, electronic or paper. Legally, it's covered in the Data Protection Act.

hatty chutney and summer - I used to have an 0203 residential number when I moved to Upper Norwood (SE19) and needed a new number in October 2005 (Wiki was right!) So they have been around for a bit but are still not that well known to many people. I was told by BT at the time that all the 0207 and 0208 numbers had been used up.

mibbes - love the nursery pics! I have cot linen envy

hatty re: the youtube clips - I've seen most of them! I'm with mibbes in thinking that 'forewarned is forearmed'. The youtube clips are not for everyone though, and some are really a bit worrying (esp the one I saw with an episiotomy - could have done with a pre-warning on that one!) but personally I feel I know more what to expect now. And can start dealing with psychological preparation in advance. On a related note, had a 'moment' recently when I had to do a bit of a hedge trim (with the aid of a mirror!) and upon seeing exactly what was down there, I thought "how the heck is bubs going to fit out of there?!?"

kmp I swear just as I was reading your post about hiccuping, I noticed baby bisou was doing it! Now I know what it is, thanks for enlightening me about it

beans turnip mibbes and jolly, re: mattress protector - we had a fitted waterproof one when we were in the UK - I think it was from Ikea and it was pretty decent, think it was something like this. I remember it was one of those ones that looks like it's terry towelling on top, so not justm made of of plastic. Many of them are "breathable" now, and my SIL reckons hers saved their mattress as her waters broke whilst she was on their bed (!) I've also bought 2 for the cot mattress, so that I've always got a spare when I need to wash one if they get dirty/soiled/weed on/spewed on. Nice stuff eh?

Sorry again for the huge post! I'll try to do it a bit more regularly so I don't bore you all to tears again with another essay...

SummerLightning · 01/10/2008 17:18

Bisou, you are so lovely writing all that! I would be far too lazy

Verso · 01/10/2008 18:11

ah, but the danger of doing a big catch-up is that there's always someone you miss out

I know. I never have any news!

Veggiemummy · 01/10/2008 18:40

Bisou that was a round up so nice of you to go to the trouble. Hope you are well. I have been reading an ina may gaskin natural chiildbirth book that my midwife gave me and have to say it is very common sense and make a lot of good sense esp for my 2nd time around. She talks a little about the use of singing in childbirth.

as for cot protectors that can also be used for waters breaking on your bed protectors, and little toddlers popping in the middle of the night falling asleep in mummy & daddies bed and weeing on their nice mattress protectors we bought these link from kiddicare.com they seem to have more in the range now but we used these for prebirth just in case as a cot protector and DS still uses them as protecctor for his big bed mattress as well as us using them for if he comes in in the night. Ikea also do cheap ones which i quite good and easily fit accross a big bed.

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Veggiemummy · 01/10/2008 18:42

oh forgot to say they are so soft we actually used them ontop of DS' cot sheet when he was little as then if he puked or wet through we could just change it and it is softer than a cot sheet.

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Turniphead1 · 01/10/2008 18:55

bisou - what a fab post. How diligent you are to reply to us all. What about you?? Hope you are good. The link you posted was fab to the singing lady! I think IMG references Birth Without Violence in her book. I really did enjoy it.

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