Dec 08 - the one where we wonder what are our bodies going to do next?

[rosmerta]

Sorry for rubbish title, best I could do

Funnily enough both DH and I disolcated our shoulders when we were kids - DH when he fell off his father's shoulders and was caught by his hands, me when Mum pulled me up by my hands (I was whingeing at the time). Don't remember any ill-effwcts

thread about next meet up 19th September

Chatter boxes As usual I have not spent enough time on here

Effie glad your ds is ok.

Am another onehaving "fun" with a toddler and rain, he just gets so bored! At 19 months still too young to rally get into "helping" or to do things like cooking or even painting. Had a sunny day last week and we had a ball with water and finger paints in the garden With all the rain though...meh. I ned to sort his toys out though, a lot of what he has just doesn't interest him anymore, like building blocks which he can't yet build with properly but is no longer interested in just knocking down. Need ot find some cheap plastic pot and pans and make an oven from a box, will keep him happy for hours if I get round to it!

Family huh? I think the running theme among all the grumblers seems to be to ask outright rather than hope! My sister hates kids so she is sort of out, she lives in Manchester anyway and has been to see us all of once just after ds was born and since she lives in a one bad flat I never go see her. Have been on holiday twice with FIL, BIL and dps and although we've had a great time we've not had ds taken off our hands. Daft thing is they probably would have done if we had asked but I don't know about you lot but I feel odd about it and worried in a PFB sort of way since he doesn't see family all that often s they don't know his habits.

The small one is pretty active these days, and an expert at zooming around at night Especially just after I get back into bed after dealing with a crying ds (bloody canines).

Am not even bothering to go into denial at early waking and moving children into beds etc. I have a ds who usually sleeps until 7/7.30 and pretty often until gone 8. I'm buying another cot Anyway I want a sidecar/co-sleeper cot thing as ds still comes in with us when he wakes or is ill and I don't want him to have to be chucked out as I'll be co-sleeping with the new one.

turnip I take my hat off to you. Your 'holiday' sounds even worse than mine last year, which is saying something - I don't know how you managed. I hope your DH realises eventually that looking after children ALL DAY really IS work! Very. Hard. Work!

I don't have any family to help - which I'm now used to - but when we first had DD I was sooooo jealous of all the Mums in my NCT group, who were going on about how their parents had their babies not just for the odd hour or two but one WHOLE NIGHT a week so they could have some grown-up time . (DH and I haven't had a whole night away from DD since she was born!)

Even though my Mum has moved down here she won't be helping with DD or the baby - it's more so that if she gets poorly I can help her out more easily (she's 80). All our other relatives live in Cheshire. At least with this baby I won't be expecting/hoping for help and then bitterly disappointed! (All the relatives trooped down at various points to view the offspring, and then made assorted "I'm so embarassed" noises when I was so brazen as to actually breastfeed with them in the room... and asked for cups of tea/lunch etc rather than making anything for me .)

But! I'm over that now! Honest!

On a more cheery note, I ordered my splendid new pram this week and also a grown-up bed for DD. She's very excited about it - and her mummy is too as it has drawers in it for her toys .

i am so tired so slabbed out on the couch while DH is making a yummy stirfry, suddenly felt thirsty so got up to get a drink of water returned to my seat with a fork instead of a glass of water!!! feeling very vague then. Also managed to make my way through 3/4 jar of peanut butter today. I am 23 weeks today i think this baby has started it's growth spurt early.

When is the growth spurt meant to be, Veggie? I feel as though my baby is bracing its hands and feet on either side of my bump and streeeettttccccchinggggg. I swear my bump is significantly bigger than it was a week ago.

Hey Veggie I'm 23 weeks Wednesday and Verso I feel the same - like my stomach has doubled in the last week!!!

someone said the other day that they had read that they have a growth spurt at 24-29weeks. but this one is sucking my brain power dramatically now and i'm shattered. I want to go to bed but it is taking forever for my dinner to go down. Verso veggiebaby is doing the same thing but is also shoving it's head fair into my stomach so slow to empty. sooooooo not comfortable tonight. My bump is so tight today. sometimes it is tight like this an dthen other times it is all just loose and blubbery.

currently watching the gymnastics, some lovely bodies there.

Kmp did you see the womens triathlon, we got gold & bronze.

Nah I didn't see any of it today but heard about it
I've decided I have to eat a lot slower as if I just have a normal portion, about 30 mins later I feel like I've been to a buffet I'm so full!

me too ladies - bump is seriously getting bigger on a daily basis - am getting a bit about how HHHHUUUGE I'll be by Dec !

Morning everyone. Thanks for all the advice on the rabbit clock for early morning waking. I'm off to John Lewis today so might have a look and see whether they have them.
Sorry about everyones difficult holidays...we had a dreadful one when DS was about 20 months where he picked up a chest infection, ended up on oxygen in Spanish A&E and then refused to sleep at night AT ALL...we ended up booking early flights home! Relaxing it was NOT!!!
Got my scan on Thursday at last!! Can't wait now but as you all well know also feeling that scary apprehensiveness that is part and parcel....

Interesting about the growth spurt, have definitely been more uncomfortable this week, especially in bed.

Oli, hope the rabbit clock works!

Am feeling very hormonal and emotional today, feel like I could burst into tears at any minute! Thankfully ds is in nursery this morning, might go get a long bath and see if that helps.

Sorry for the me post, will come back when feeling a bit more cheerful!

Grrr to mean SIl's, unhelpful families, injuries and early waking toddlers! And Grrr to tired pregnant hormonal feelings as well.

I've entered the tired nesting hibernating stage a wee bit early. I think it's the rain we've had every day for the last two hundred years it feels like.

Have so little interest in my work I honestly wish they would fire me and then I could curl up and watch disney films with my girls and go to the local toddler groups to catch up with the other mums..

Possibly our bank manager wouldn't share that feeling!

LadyT meant to say, driving in country much easier than in London. I learnt in London but didn't feel as comfortable until driving in countryside, you have quiet roads to get your confidence up and parking is so much easier as you don't have to fight for a place with 100 cars watching you. Good luck with the course!

We are booked to go to Cornwall end of month and I'm really hoping we get a little bit of sunshine! Hoping it will still feel like a holiday even if we're still cooking etc

LadyT - my hubby learned to drive in norwich (we live in london) on an intensive course when he was 32 - he passed, it was great and he doesn't have a bad word to say about it. good luck - it'll give you so much more freedom

Hi All

Don't talk to me about early waking. DD woke between 4.30 and 5.45 from about 9 months old until about 6 weeks ago. Occassionally she would give us hope by sleeping to 7 and then she would go right back to her old ways. Even after 6 weeks of 7-8am wakings I still can't believe it is permanent. They is NO WAY I am contemplating moving her to a bed. She sleeps in a cot bed which is big enough to accomodate her for a lot longer and if she is still behind those bars when she is 3 then I won't mind as long as she sleeps! (I guess I better go and look at buying a second cot. I also need to look a double buggies and DD still uses the buggy a lot).

DD's 2nd birthday was lovely. She loved all her presents and thanked the giver for each one which was lovely. I cn't beleive I have a two year old.

I had my 24 weeks appt yesterday and my BP is up again. I am meant to go back in two weeks but we are going to Sicily. I just hope pre-eclampsia does not strike in Sicily - at least my friend that we are visitng is a medical student who works in a big hospital nearby and speaks Italian!

xx

LT: which company are you using for your intensive course? Was thinking of doing something similar once we move.

Thanks Turnip and I am glad you are feeling better today. Like you we get very little help with DD (except for from the nany who we obviously pay!). I get so jealous of people with broody sisters and hands on grannies.

I forgot to tell you all about my hilarious midwife yesterday. She was telling me how they induce you at 41+5 if you fail to go into labour naturally and I pointed out that would be christmas day for me so we got into talking about how to bring on labour natutally. She was encouraging me to have lots of sex from 37 weeks and I snorted at the idea so she suggested that if sex was too uncomfortable I try a blow job as swallowing sperm means you digest a hormone that can bring on labour!! Then she recommended a vibrator as orgasms help! Finally she gave a very vigorous demonstration of a belly dance which might help open the pelvis... I was in stiches she was so funny. Luckily DH was not there as I think he would have wanted the ground to swallow him up.

i'm feeling all of the above too nesting,tearful (well full on cryfest would be better description) and cannot get a good night sleep at the moment and not due to waking DS. I'm so uncomfortable and have (sorry to share this) horrendous wind!!

But on the up side pretty much all of DS's presents from friends and family in australia (and some lates one from the UK) arrived today and he is on cloud nine. One friend from OZ sent him a toy swiss army knife it is so cute. So feeling like i have a loved child and DH was a little cold to his sis on the phone yesterday so i think she may have got the picture.

Aw happy birthday to your DS veggiemummy! We spaced out some of our DD's presents and its worked wonders - I'd got them some Charlie and Lola magazines with crafty bits and had forgotten to give them to them on the day itself. It worked wonders to pull them out on a wet and windy Sunday!

Turnip DH is starting the new business . Lease is at the solicitors at the moment. He's got the contract to supply physio to all the local council who pay for their staff's treatment so that should help hugely. I'm about to fire my nightmare client who I've had enough of

Oli, let me know if you get a Rabbit clock at John Lewis as I need to go down there this week anyway. Be months before I need one but I am keen to stock up

I am sorry to hear all these stressful sounding tales re: holidays...Turnip, you need a day at the spa (at your SIL's expense, if there was any justice!) I like travelling and want to take my baby to Tanzania in February (yes I KNOW it sounds nuts and a complete idiotic nightmare) as the cricket team I run are touring there. This is my hobby, not a job, I hasten to add (though it feels like a job at times). Thing is, my friend is a diplomat out there so I could just stay in his house and waft around and just join in with the others when I feel like it. But DP isn't keen on this. He can't come as he will probably be away for a trial for four months and won't be able to watch over us, which is another problem in itself He is a barrister I hasten to add, not a criminal Mind you, I took the team to Trinidad and Tobago in April, when I'd just found out I was pregnant, and the anxiety (trying to find the right things to eat etc, fretting that the long haul flight was going to give me a miscarriage) possibly wasn't worth it...

Ooh, Effie, can't you drive either? Glad it's not just me. Living in the Big Smoke's meant it's not caused a problem, but when I spend 95% of the time in the country after DD is born, I will need to drive (or else go spectacularly nuts). There are no buses to speak of and the railway station is 3-4 miles away. Course I am PROBABLY doing is www.drivingcourses4u.co.uk but a week long residential course may not suit you so there is also www.londondrivingacademy.co.uk and they do semi-intensive courses over 4-6 weeks, or else there is an East London/Essex one which might suit you better - www.1stdriver.org

Rosmerta, hope you are feeling cheerier. Get yourself a treat of some kind, that's my remedy. I find I am having about one day a week of feeling inexplicably low and am just hoping it's hormones...

artichokes PMSL at your MW - was she on drugs ?!! Hope your BP settles down and you don't have to go to hospital in Italy - although what a stroke of luck staying with a medical student
Turnip why can't you touch nips at the end, do they get sore ? Ooh house looks lovely

I am also having low, weepy days - DP can't understand it but is being very patient with me, bless him. I am either just really down or really short-tempered and tired - poor DP ! I actually seem better during the week, maybe because I have to be 'normal' for work . I also started nesting and cleared out some kitcen cupboards to make way for bottles and stuff .
Oh and on the subject of bedroom 'action', DP has admitted that he doesn't feel 'right' putting it so close to the baby so has been avoiding the subject for weeks Any tips on how I can encourage him ?...