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Due June 08: A few eggs have hatched, we wish the rest would GET CRACKING!!!

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systemsaddict · 10/06/2008 15:15

Let's hope the rest of the eggs get cracking very soon!

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Lorettah · 20/06/2008 17:29

Hello,

Sorry it's been so long since I last posted - a week!! Harry has certainly been taking up all of my time (and energy). Here's my birth story:

Friday 6th Water break - but no labour, go to hospital they monitor me for 20 mins and confirmed I wasn't in labour! So given choice wait it out (apparently most labours start within 24 hrs once waters break) or be induced in 24 hrs. As the last thing I wanted was to be induced I decided to wait it out. Went home had a curry then went to bed. Middle of the night I start with contractions but very sporadic. Didn't really sleep. MW came out to me in the morning & said I wasn't in labour just latent phase. And of course she didn't want to do an internal due to the fact I might get an infection. So spend the whole of Saturday in pain trying to walk but because Harry was so low down it was more of a shuffle. Finally managed some sleep on Saturday night then early hours of Sunday the contractions really started. Midwife came at 9am and did an internal - because I'd gone 18 hours I was going to need anti-biotics so it was fine. She then told me I was over 4 cm dilated and that we could take our time going to the hospital. She rang for us and the birth centre & pool were free - to which I was so grateful. Arrived at the hospital at 10.15am got into pool & it was amazing - I was still in pain but it wasn't nearly as bad. Started on gas & air - which was fantastic and then Harry as born at 3.45pm. The birth went really well and I didn't need any stitches, Harry weighted in at 7lb 14oz.

Had a good nights sleep in the hospital then the trouble started with the breastfeeding. Harry wouldn't latch on and not to be too graphic my nipples weren't really sticking out so he had nothing to go at. I really tried for over 3 days but it wasn't happening and Harry was absolutely beside himself, it was heartbreaking as I really wanted to bf but I knew I had to make a decision and I couldn't take any more of the advice from the MW's so my dh and I took the decision that he would go onto formula - the moment he did he was a different baby, no crying and very peaceful. I know I made the right decision but it doesn't stop me feeling extremely guilty and still a bit teary over the whole episode.

I wasn't bf and I'm fine & even if I do say so myself pretty intelligent & don't have any illnesses etc. So I know it's not the end of the world, but those MW don't half make you feel like the worse mum in the world.

Thanks for all the congrats & supportive words over the bf you don't know how much that means to me.

Loretta x

Lorettah · 20/06/2008 17:39

Hello,

Sorry it's been so long since I last posted - a week!! Harry has certainly been taking up all of my time (and energy). Here's my birth story:

Friday 6th Water break - but no labour, go to hospital they monitor me for 20 mins and confirmed I wasn't in labour! So given choice wait it out (apparently most labours start within 24 hrs once waters break) or be induced in 24 hrs. As the last thing I wanted was to be induced I decided to wait it out. Went home had a curry then went to bed. Middle of the night I start with contractions but very sporadic. Didn't really sleep. MW came out to me in the morning & said I wasn't in labour just latent phase. And of course she didn't want to do an internal due to the fact I might get an infection. So spend the whole of Saturday in pain trying to walk but because Harry was so low down it was more of a shuffle. Finally managed some sleep on Saturday night then early hours of Sunday the contractions really started. Midwife came at 9am and did an internal - because I'd gone 18 hours I was going to need anti-biotics so it was fine. She then told me I was over 4 cm dilated and that we could take our time going to the hospital. She rang for us and the birth centre & pool were free - to which I was so grateful. Arrived at the hospital at 10.15am got into pool & it was amazing - I was still in pain but it wasn't nearly as bad. Started on gas & air - which was fantastic and then Harry as born at 3.45pm. The birth went really well and I didn't need any stitches, Harry weighted in at 7lb 14oz.

Had a good nights sleep in the hospital then the trouble started with the breastfeeding. Harry wouldn't latch on and not to be too graphic my nipples weren't really sticking out so he had nothing to go at. I really tried for over 3 days but it wasn't happening and Harry was absolutely beside himself, it was heartbreaking as I really wanted to bf but I knew I had to make a decision and I couldn't take any more of the advice from the MW's so my dh and I took the decision that he would go onto formula - the moment he did he was a different baby, no crying and very peaceful. I know I made the right decision but it doesn't stop me feeling extremely guilty and still a bit teary over the whole episode.

I wasn't bf and I'm fine & even if I do say so myself pretty intelligent & don't have any illnesses etc. So I know it's not the end of the world, but those MW don't half make you feel like the worse mum in the world.

Thanks for all the congrats & supportive words over the bf you don't know how much that means to me.

Loretta x

Essie3 · 20/06/2008 17:41

Hello all, another therapy session post on here! Congrats to all the new babies, and Penguin, fingers crossed - been there on the nearly-giving-birth-but-not thing myself.

Iestyn - someone asked on pronunciation, well, we've had some issues because we clearly need a font with serifs on it because several people have welcomed Lestyn! Oh dear! It's yes-tin, and second name is Seiriol, say-ree-all.

Anyhow, yesterday had a terrible day. DH went to Tesco, and the sh!t hit the fan. Iestyn fed for 10 minutes, sicked it up, cried, fed for 10 minutes, rested for 10, fed for 10, sicked it up, fed for 10, rested for 10... you get the idea! I tried force feeding (!), refusing feeding, you name it. Then at 10pm he started to cry unless he had a nipple near him, and that became worse and worse and worse. I was so tired, hadn't really slept since prelabour on Friday, and became more and more desperate. I began to hallucinate that he had devil's eyes, and kept soaking his head with crying. By 2.30am we phoned the labour ward for backup, and they said it sounded just like bf behaviour, but we could bring him in. He slept within minutes of being in the car (but the hospital were good with me, who was doing the hysterical crying at this point). Once home, he woke, and cried and cried and cried. At 3.30, a very tired DH took him in the car for a drive (to Holyhead! This is hilarious if you're local - it's a big ferry port and docks!), and I slept - and DH and Iestyn slept downstairs when they returned.
I finally got 8 hours sleep, and so did Iestyn, HALLELUIAH!!
So I'm feeling human today, and he's sleeping quite well and not feeding too much, although I'm dreading nightfall...

Sponge, Amber and others - I'm really struggling with the bf. There's no real problem as such, but I'm quite...well, resentful, and secretly I wish I didn't have any milk, or had some issue that meant formula was the only way... What is it about breastfeeding?

DH is back now - he took a trip to get The Baby Whisperer book. Anything, anything for sleep! Poor DH is so tired, but I'm also going mad with it...

Sorry, another long post - I honestly don't know whether I can cope at all and the support here helps so much.

Essie3 · 20/06/2008 17:45

Just x-posted Lorettah, and like you, I find here invaluable. I can't really confess my breastfeeding issues anywhere else.
I really don't want to offend anyone, btw, and I don't want to sound smug (because I am bfing) or insulting or anything. I just...it's so hard, even when things are relatively ok with bf. I just want a night off, and I can't have one.
It's the only place I can confess.

Oh, baby blues hit bad, btw! Can you tell?

Amberc · 20/06/2008 17:45

Why do we all feel so guilty about not breastfeeding - it's mad isn't it? My baby is much happier now I'm not forcing my boob into his mouth every three hours but I still feel like a failure. I am going to get over myself now as I know it's not my fault. Anyway I have found ready made cartons of formula and they're fantastic!

Now does anyone know any good remedies for overdue babies with terribly dry skin. Olive oil doesn't seem to do much (actually how funny is this, I sent my DP from the hospital to get olive oil for his skin as it's cracked and dry and he came back with Garlic flavoured olive oil!! I did laugh. x)

bun2 · 20/06/2008 18:16

PregnantPenguin Can so commiserate with you on the whole stop/start thing. Having had an awful night on Wednesday with contractions every 5 mins (full moon?) these stopped at 3am. Spent most of thursday twinging on and off and had another sweep with the midwife (cervix slighly softer - 2 cms dilated). Had a huge show and still have gunk coming out of me now. Still twinging on and off and am told this is prolonged latent labour - just have to bide my time apparently. Spoke to one of the mums at school who had a baby 3 weeks ago who said she was in latent labour for a week but when she did go into labour it took 2 1/2 hours (second child).

It is so, so frustrating isn't it? Would like a positive sign that things are going to happen such as waters breaking. I know I have had a show but my books say that this can happen up to 6 weeks before the onset of labour!!!!

Finger's crossed for you - I am sure you will be holding your LO before me. Keep me posted!

Essie3 breastfeeding is really hard and lonely even when there are no apparent problems - please don't feel bad or guilty and don't forget that you are going through the hardest stage of all at the moment - things only get better from here. Hope the Baby Wisperer book helps.

DQ I feel for you - it's awful when your care is not up to scratch isn't it? It is your body and your baby and you have every right to first class care and attention.

Peartart what a wonderful birth story. Thanks for sharing it. Gives me hope. How was the birth with your DD1? Just wondering - bit worried about the whold 2nd birth thing (bit worried is a slight understatement - my poor DH will vouch for that).

Sorry if I have forgotten anyone. Sending hugs to all.

LauraT · 20/06/2008 18:30

amber have just read out your story about the garlic oli to my DH. he says "what's the problem with that?" I have visions of your lovely baby smelling like my dinner now!

whinegums are the tears due to my singing?!

bun2 · 20/06/2008 18:42

AmberC - you could try Waitrose Baby Bottom Butter which is made from olive oil, camomile oil and vanilla but is very rich and thick (like a posh vaseline). My friend swore by it for her flaky LO and I have bought some - smells divine.

Lorettah Congrats to you too - a lovely birth story. Please don't feel too guilty over the breast feeding - I supplemented my DD1 with FF from about week 2 and by week 6 she was fully FF. I know what you mean about he MW/HV/NCT making you feel guilty but if baby is happier and content then surely that is the main thing. Last time my problem was that I was aneamic due to hemorraging and the quality and quantity of my milk was not great. In hindsight I should have given up sooner because it just wasn't working. - DD1 was latching on OK but I wasn't satisfying her. Life was very hard for a while until we made the decision. Now my DD1 is a very healthy, physically strong 5 year old who has not missed a days school all year and is one of the most intelligent in her class in school.

I was also FF and am strong and healthy (I like to think so anyway!).

bitofadramaqueen · 20/06/2008 18:50

Hey UDC glad you're still with us.

To those watching the West Wing for the first time - it is fab fab fab. One of my faves.

Laura that's awful re: the noise in your house - I hope the work finishes soon. There really is nothing worse. Thankfully the strange man turned down his music later in the afternoon. Could be worse, it could be at night time...

Am really sorry to hear of those of you struggling with the bf and hope you aren't beating yourself up too much. I was FF and I'm pretty fabulous! No allergies (well apart from hayfever which lots of people have), no childhood illnesses and did well at school.

Lorettah · 20/06/2008 18:51

Thanks bun2 it really helps to have support from other people, my dh has been fantastic but its nice to have support from others.

Harry is getting ready for a feed so best sign off. good luck to those who haven;t hatched yet xxx

whinegums · 20/06/2008 19:16

Congratulations Lorettah, and hello Harry.

Laura, yes, your lovely rendition - and that you remembered EDD - made me sob! Hope things are a little more peaceful at yours asap.

poppy34 · 20/06/2008 19:21

does my mother not understand about my routine ? just had a "quick visit" from her all afternoon . It was lovely to see her and she brought me some gorgeous hand knitted stuff (she is very talented like that) but a 4 hour visit from anyone at present stretches my stay awake skills. And cuts into my tv time...

lorettah - congrats on birth story and don't feel guilty re bf as you're doing whats right for you and Harry. xxx

essie -fingers crossed for tonight

laurat, bdq and allnew dh been doing acupuncture pressure points with no success, so now moving onto nipple tweaking and jumping on him method... here is hoping (my enthusiasm for raspberry leaf tea and pineapple waning).

spongebrainbigpants · 20/06/2008 19:29

Hi guys, thank you so much for all the kind messages. I know what you mean about the pressure to bf - both dh and me were ff and are both successful, healthy and intelligent (well, we were until we had Alex! ), yet I still feel this insane need to bf. I am now expressing every 3 hrs and using that to bf Alex, topped up by ff when needed. But don't know how long I can keep expressing for though - met one woman at bf clinc who has been expressing every 3 hrs for six weeks! Don't think I could do that.

Anyway, congrats on all the births - and Josey, good to hear that Olivia continues to come on in leaps and bounds. I'm pleased to hear you found the tube thing ok too - I really struggle with medical stuff so admire you for coping with something like that.

Lots of positive labour vibes to those still waiting - esp those who are overdue and getting frustrated.

thegreenfairy · 20/06/2008 20:16

essie lorettah sorry you guys are having such a nightmare with BF.
I really really struggled for about the first two weeks, but something eventually clicked a few days ago.
The trouble is, people just assume you can do it, and there's no way of knowing in advance just how bloody hard it is. And there is SO MUCH PRESSURE to do it.
I really wish I had gone with my instincts from the start. I think many of our initial problems came from following the advice I had to ensure Storm was fed at 2/ 3 hourly intervals. This meant she was being woken by us to feed, so wasn't feeling properly hungry, and so was also not sleeping well because she wasn't getting a full satisfying feed.
We had no kind of pattern or routine and we all found it terribly difficult.
essie I definitely had those moments of wishing I had no milk so I could give her formula without feeling guilty...
I just spent so long weeping about it, often over her, which she clearly found upsetting and just made it worse.

Now we are waiting for her to wake up before feeding her. She is sleeping longer and feeding more 'ferociously' so she is getting a full tummy and finding it easier to go back to sleep.
We are also leaving her moses basket in the bedroom and only letting her sleep in there - and putting her in there awake or dozy, rather than waiting for her to fall asleep and then hoping she'll stay asleep when put her in (which she never did).
I also read something interesting, that babies find it really upsetting to wake in a different environment (eg, falling asleep in arms, waking in cot) - and that makes sense to me. Since we stopped carting Storm around for our convenience she has stopped being distressed by waking and that's helped keep her, and us calm.

It's hard waiting for her to wake up and cry a teeny bit for food - especially when she often spends half an hour stirring herself before finally waking. But it means she is truly hungry and so she feeds well.

Because I feel calmer and more in control, I'm sure she feels safer too and that makes it easier to feed her.

I really hope you both find the solution you need, whatever it is. I do really think feeling the stress to 'get it right' just makes it worse - Storm was definitely picking up on my unhappiness. Now I'm happier she is too.

I would recommend this book - I know I mentioned it earlier, but I've been amazed by the difference in just two days of following some of its advice (as outlined above).

I'm pretty sure Storm's got another growth spurt coming any day now, which will mean another nightmarish couple of days. But at least we now have some coping mechanisms.

Good luck!

thegreenfairy · 20/06/2008 20:19

sorry, x posted with you sponge - obviously, sympathies re the BF nightmare to you too.

I really wish I'd known just how hard it was going to be - I wasn't prepared for it in the slightest...

spongebrainbigpants · 20/06/2008 20:52

My birth story:

I should start by saying that I have always had a pathological fear of pain and an extremely low pain threshold (I have been known to faint when removing a plaster - and I'm not kidding ), so childbirth was always going to be a bit of a challenge to me. However, I decided that after the medical process of IVF to conceive our little man, it was very important to me to labour and birth naturally so I decided to read up and prepare for coping with something that could potentially be the most pain I had ever had to contend with.

I read all the books, signed up to ante-natal yoga, chose to have a water birth because I felt this would help, read up on internet sites like this one about others' experiences (postive ones only!) and listened to my hypnobirthing CDs. I felt prepared. My little one, of course, had other ideas.

My waters broke on Thursday 12th, 10 days before offical due date. They broke at 2.30am - not a lot of water but I knew that it was important to inform the hospital anyway and phoned them straight away. They said to wait an hour or so and see if anything else happened. I lost quite a bit more water in that hour and phoned back to be told to come in. Luckily my mum was staying with us anyway, so dh, mum and me all headed into the hospital to be checked out. There was no sign of labour being imminent so I was sent home and told to come back in 48hrs if nothing had happened.

It was quite a stressful 48hrs cos I was very aware that induction wasn't pleasant and really wanted to start my labour naturally - I could see all my wonderful plans flying out of the window already. I walked as much as possible, stayed on my feet, bounced on my birthing ball, but to no avail and 8am Saturday morning we were back in the hospital.

I was hooked up to the contraction monitor and fetal monitor and then at 10am the MW came to do an exam and put in the gel to induce labour. She started to examine me and went to put in the gel and I climbed the walls - I was screaming and writhing and in total agony, I couldn't believe it. This was just the exam ffs! I ended up having to take G&A just to get through the gel being put in. This was not a good start and sent me into a tail spin - how on earth was I going to cope with labour if I couldn't cope with a simple internal?

I wasn't due to be examined again til 4pm so mum, dh and me spent the next 6 hrs wondering around the hospital, walking and walking and walking and trying to start things off. Nothing happened. I had one small contraction at about 3pm and that was it.

So by 5pm the MW came back to examine me - this time we had the G&A ready . She started to examine me, I sucked on the gas, but even that didn't take the edge off the pain - it was horrendous. I was beside myself. She didn't even reach my cervix because she was so concerned at my reaction. She gave up and left the room to get the senior MW to do the exam instead. She was out of the room for no more than 10 mins - by the time she returned I was in full blown labour . Contractions coming every couple of minutes and extremely intense - I was sucking on the G&A constantly (in fact too much, my mum was trying to talk me through breathing through the contractions and not constantly sucking on the gas as she was concerned I was going to make myself ill). I was watching the contraction monitor and every time I saw the contraction build up I tensed and cried and sucked on the gas. Exactly not what you're supposed to do - I know tension would make them worse but by this time I was incoherent with pain and couldn't do anything that I was supposed to do.

By 5.10pm my pg notes record that I was "exhausted and distressed" and by 5.20pm I was begging for an epidural. So I managed an impressive 20 minutes of labour - pretty sure I must win the prize for being the biggest wimp on the planet.

The anaesthetist took about 40 minutes to arrive and that was the longest 40 mins of my life - the pain was excrutiating and I just didn't know how I was going to get through it. When she arrived, she quickly put a canula in and then I was hauled off my back and into a sitting position to have the epidural administered. My waters broke at this point in spectacular style and went everywhere.

The anaesthetist then put the needle in and I bit dh cos it hurt so much - I then remember saying, "thank god that's done", only to be told that I'd only had the LA and not the epidural. The epidural needle was unbearable - total and utter agony. I was still having contractions every couples of mins so was having to stop for that anyway - I then had shooting pains down my right leg, coupled with the agony in my back, I just could not sit still. The anaesthetist then said "I can't do this, I will have to abandon the procedure" and I went into total meltdown. I couldn't see how I could possibly bear the pain and was just about to beg for a GA and CS when she said she would have one more go so I summoned up all my strength to stay still and she managed to get the needle in.

The epidural slowly got to work and by 7.30pm I no longer needed any G&A to cope with the contractions. I had a top-up on the epidural that dh was in charge of and he topped me up every 15 mins so I was completely numb. They put me on the syntocin drip at 8pm to speed up my contractions.

I was then left to labour until midnight - we had such a lovely MW who stayed with us the whole time and took such good care of me and my dh and mum. She knew that I was extremely distressed by how the labour was progressing and kept on reassuring me as to how well I was doing. By midnight I had another exam, which of course was painless, and I was amazingly fully dilated. I then laboured for another couple of hours before the MW decided I should try pushing - not easy when you're lying down and totally numb, but I pushed for an hour anyway.

By 3.30am, baby was very low down and the MW felt sure that I could deliver him naturally with a bit of extra help. She said she would set up stirrups and get the help of another MW to position me slightly differently so I could push LO out. However, because I had been labouring for over an hour she had to get approval of the registrar - and that's when all hell broke loose. He came and examined me and asked me to push while he had his hand inside me - he told me my pushing was completely ineffective (if I hadn't been numb at this stage I would have kicked him in the face - cheeky bastard!). He wasn't happy about me labouring any more and wanted me in theatre for an instruments delivery and prepped for a section.

Suddenly our serence calm labour room was filled with people - one particular officious midwife who barked orders at everyone and seemed to be loving the drama of it all, an anaesthetist and loads of other people rushing around. Dh and me both became very scared - but LO was showing no signs of distress so what was the need for all the drama? We could have calmly prepared for theatre and still been fine - it just felt unnecessarily melodramatic.

I was taken down to theatre and hooked up to all the machines. I had a panic that dh hadn't come with me but they sat him next to me and he held my hand. My BP went through the roof and I was violently sick. They then tried a ventouse but it didn't work so they got out the forceps. I was told to push but was so exhausted and distressed by this point I couldn't really make any effort and my first push was nothing. One of the midwives then turned to me and said, "you have 3 chances to do this or we will have to do a section". It was just the kind of verbal slap I needed and the next push Alex was born.

Dh was able to go and be with him and I lay there and begged to hold him. They had to check him out though so it seemed like ages before I got to hold him. He was then whisked away for more checks. At this point I lay back on the bed and rested and then noticed reflected in the light in the ceiling a completely bloody mess that the doctor was stitching up with a needle that looked about a foot long. It took me about a minute to register that the bloody mess I was looking at was me. I pointed to the ceiling and said "look they're stitching me up", it was only then that the staff realised I was looking and quickly moved the light. I had a 2nd degree tear.

Well, that was a very long post . But that was about it - my plan was to labour at home for as long as possible, go into hospital as late as I could and then labour and birth in the water with nothing but G&A for pain relief. The best laid plans . . .

pleasechange · 20/06/2008 21:15

oh sponge what a nightmare you went through! And despite all of that you managed to have a natural birth - well done. Although your post has scared me to death (I am huge wimp with pain), at least it is a real life version of what it all might be like. I think I'll be asking for the epidural as soon as possible!

poppy - just read you post re. the nipple tweaking . Any luck? I've just been out for a very hot curry - it's got baby moving lots, but probably in disgust

looneytune · 20/06/2008 22:30

Well, what a mental day!!!

SIL arrived around 10ish followed very quickly by midwife for checkup. Then dh's mate who landed today from Oz (here for a wedding) heard the news and asked if he could come over (not seen him for 5 yrs) so he was here couple of hours. I went for a shower and Dr arrived whilst I was drying but she was in and out. Had some food then me, dh and ds2 went to pick ds1 up from school. I wouldn't have gone out so soon but midwife said I needed to go to hospital for anti-d injection and said it should be fine for a short walk to school.

Well, at school, everyone wanted a look at 24 hr old baby, some asked for cuddles etc. so we were there a short time. Then I nearly passed out from standing too long so we soon left and went to hospital for my jab.

Joshua basically hadn't fed since his big feed after birth and couple of very small feeds. Poor love was worn out from the birth and just wanted to sleep and refused boob. Anyway, after the fresh air waking him up, when we got back me and ds2 came to bed for the rest of the day. This was around 5ish and we've been snuggled in bed ever since. He pretty much fed from each side in turns for 3ish hours!! It was lovely to see him making up for not having any before

Anyway, I MUST catch up with all the posts as I feel very rude but this is what I've copied from another section:

Looney's Birth Story.........

Thursday 19th June

3am - contractions started at 10 mins apart but bearable. Tried to sleep but felt should time them so went downstairs and used online contraction timer. At some point later on I came on MN for advice - where else can you get advice at such an hour

5ish - phoned number I was given for when went into labour. They got midwife to call me back.

5.20ish - got phonecall from very tired sounding midwife asking questions and saying I should call back when get stronger (I felt I didn't want to make her come out until I had to)

6.30ish - when dh woke up, told him I was in labour. He starts saying 'are you ok' every time I had pain and I explained I'd been doing this by myself for last 3 and half hours and not to panic

8ish - dh started setting up birthing pool

8.30ish - phoned midwife's mobile and she was wide awake and attending another homebirth round the corner and said was surprised I hadn't called earlier. She was lovely and not long until she was done there and came to mine.

Bless the midwife, she was already tired after a busy night (had 3 homebirths before mine - must be down to the full moon! ). She had someone else arrive not long later and she thought I was going to be quick because of my contractions but when she did finally check me, I was only 3-4cms She didn't want me in the pool before 4cms as can slow things down.

Contractions were getting stronger and stronger and I ended up in the pool (once past 4cms). They started slowing down a bit but when topped up with hot water would suddenly come back. Not sure how long I was in the pool for but I had decided for few reasons not to birth in there in the end and as I was getting the shakes, I got out and carried on with my birthing ball etc.

I went ages without gas and air as for some reason I didn't fancy it this time. The pain of the worse contractions made me feel sick and I did throw up quite bad at one point and didn't feel like eating or drinking so hardly any energy but the midwives and my best mate (other birthing partner) were fab at making me get through the times I said 'I can't do this' lol. I tried to have gas and air to help but I just didn't want it which was weird as I loved it last time lol.

I could pretty much feel when I was almost dilated because it all felt very open downstairs Midwife listened to me, checked and I was 10cms. She broke my waters then explained I had meconium liquor so it was get the baby out asap or I'd have to be transferred to hospital. I was a bit but she was great in the way she said it all. I went on my knees and lent on the outside of the pool and pushed with all I had and it didn't take long for ds2 to arrive (3rd midwife, my personal one, arrived when just started pushing). I didn't see him because of my position but I'm pleased in the end as it turned out he had the cord VERY tight round his neck and dh said he was very very blue and it scared him. I had been told at one point to concentrate on what one particular midwife said in how to push, when to change to panting etc. and I did exactly what she said. This is how he ended up safely delivered and I just love these community midwives for how calm they were as I had no idea there was a problem, took it as being normal stuff they were saying.

My perfect little boy arrived at 2.50pm after an 11 hour 50 min labour and he was worth every minute He fed very well for the first hour but was very sleepy after but has been great again since 5ish this afternoon and been loving his skin to skin contact

Looney is very much in love with her new little baby and is also VERY VERY proud of her 5 yr old ds1 who stayed off school to be there for the whole thing and was great considering and who loves his baby brother - he's been amazing with him

Ds1 splashed about in the pool for a while after (as was clean due to me not birthing in it) and loved it and it was just such a funny thing - he had armbands on his wrists AND his ankles and it was just so funny to have that going on in the lounge

Right, I'm amazed Joshua let me type for that long whilst sleeping next to me. Time to go now I think.

Thanks for all the congrats etc. and catch up soon.

Hope everyone else is doing well.

LT xx

Rolf · 20/06/2008 22:46

Well done Looney

Sponge - you poor love. How brave of you to keep going despite being so frightened and in such pain. I'm sure a lot of people would have asked for a section very early on in that process. I hope it's helped you to write it all down and I hope you get the chance to have a gentle recovery.

DD2 has just fallen asleep. My left bresat is really sore - I had mastitis in that breast last time and I so hope I don't get it again. I forgot to buy any savoy cabbage and don't know if I'll have time tomorrow - it's DS1's First Communion and I simply can't be ill for it. I realised this evening that I haven't been eating properly during the day - just graxing on crap, really. I need to get myself more organised and buy in food I can use for easy meals.

libralady · 21/06/2008 03:36

Can't believe the photos Looney. Well done you and anyone else I've missed.

Is anyone out there? I think I've started the early stages of labour

Had a show before I went to bed at 11.30pm and have been woken by some real cramping pains just before 3am. Went to the loo (now there's a surprise) and tried to get back to sleep but they are really niggly as just as I think I am dropping off, I get another one.

So have come downstairs to sit on birthing ball and have a bounce whilst typing this.

Don't know whether to try and get back to sleep or sit it out.

Have left DH asleep in bed as he's due to head off first thing in the morning back up to London. Hopefully this is it so he doesn't have to go.

This is great as yesterday I officially finished work and I stated I wanted LO asap.

It would be nice to have babba on the longest day.

debinaustria · 21/06/2008 08:46

Hi, Mr Austria here!

just a quick update- Debs should be out today if the baby is alright. He has a bit of jaundice but he should be fine- so one finally check and she should be home. She had a awful night last night and fed every hour!!
She even give him a dummy!!

Hopefully when she is home things should be better.

PearTart · 21/06/2008 09:25

Morning All
I've got sore nipples already (EEk!) but liking sleeping on my back.

Caught up on the amazing birth stories...
congrats to Sponge- your story gave me shivers- great photos and arriving on fathers day afTer waiting so long!
Essie- OMG what a hard time you had, love the name Iestyn.
Looney- the pool looks ace, great photos, and you looked so calm.
Amber- what an experience, I hope you're recovering now. Luke looks lovely
Lorettah- pool sounds good. Re FF: DH wasn't BF and he's a boffin worth boffing!

good luck to Mellymel today

Libra- are you there? how are things now?

Allnew- in answer to your Q: I hadn't considered a HB before Thursday and I'd had a good experience with DD1's birth in hospital in a low risk room. It's just that on the day an instinct thing kicked in and I got totally spooked by being at hosp and ignored. They were exceptionally busy and when I was finally seen, the MW joked that the only other available space was the helipad! Also my body was going into shutdown and I knew it just wasn't going to happen there. I'm not sure if I'd have been able to make the decision to go & stay at home if this was my first delivery, but it turned out to be the right decision for me on the day.

Bun2- what are your fears for the 2nd birth? I found it no less painful but that I knew that it's survivable and I was more confident to make big the decisions that I needed to. I also felt much more able to trust my body and listen to the signs. Thats why I knew I needed to come home in this case. DD1's birth was low risk, fast (too fast- 5 1/2 hours) and I was sick constantly (pos due to G&A). But overall it was OK (relatively speaking!) and I was active and gave birth squatting so no tears.
Hope this helps!
How was your 1st birth?

libralady · 21/06/2008 09:26

Sorry to disappoint, but I am still here and the pains have eased off somewhat.

Sat on the birthing ball until 5am and felt so knackered I got off and lay down on the sofa.

DH woke up at 4am when he realised I wasn't in bed and came and investigated. Said I was alright and for him to go back to bed, so he did.

Saw him at 6am and said it's not full on so he may as well go to work as this could go on for hours or days. It is definately worse when I am standing/upright, but I was so shattered I had to lie down.

My mumsnet connection went down just when I needed it during the night for 'essential maintenance' so that pissed me off and had nothing to keep my attention and keep me awake iyswim.

DS has come downstairs (4.2), got his own breakfast - a yoghurt and some juice from the fridge, has sat at the coffee table, eaten it and is now watching Nick Jr. All this whilst I was asleep on the sofa! What a star.

Have just got up off the sofa and gone to the loo and certainly the pains are still there again when upright.

I may parcel him off to my Mum's later and I'll get on with some housework and I've got a stack of ironing. Maybe that will do the trick. The fresh pineapple is in the fridge and the clary sage and Lavender has been duly rubbed in the last couple of nights before going to bed. May have a few drops in the bath later as well.

I need this LO out now. Today is the anniversary of my aunt's death 22 years ago, so it would be lovely for my family. It's wierd, she was born on the shortest day (21st December) and died on the longest day.

Maybe if it is born today I should think of a suitable druids name ha ha. Any suggestions?

Whoa, another pain and poor DS is looking at me bewildered. It's not bad enough to put the tens on though. Should I take some paracetamol? I'm worried about them disappearing altogether.

I'll keep you posted.

Want to call DH to make sure he is OK, but don't want to put him in a blind panic when he sees it's my number.

I hate being in LIMBO!!!!!

PearTart · 21/06/2008 09:31

libra- I hope thiings get going- MW rec'd nipple stulation- it may have helped me

LOL at druid names- have suggested Summer Moon, in jest, to DH as DD2 was born to a full moon on (nearly) midsummer. Dare you to post on names thread! as you can see we haven't found her name yet so it may just be that!

PiggyPenguin · 21/06/2008 10:12

Congratulations to those who have hatched and commiserations to those of us struggling with the b-feeding. Actually what I'm struggling with most of all today is my enormous bags and lack of sleep. Jamie was awake until 2 this morning and wouldn't calm down or be put down which was exhausting.

Now of course, he is sleeping like an angel and probably building his reserves to be a pain again tonight. i might have to send dh out for that baby whisperer thing too...

Looney - I think it was you with the olive oil + garlic story, my midwife had the same experience last time I saw her of a dh buying the garlic oil, but said it isn't as bad as the one who totally misheard the mw and bought (and smothered) his ds in cod liver oil. Apparently the poor child stank!