Due in June and entering the home stretch - keep the creme eggs rolling!

[makecakesnotwar]

And the Revels, the Greek Yogurt and the curly fries....

Wombat, can I be nosey and ask if you are in Bristol? The SCIBU unit here is supposed to be amazing - it must be hard, but v rewarding working in one.

Ernest - our move was relatively easy as it was from UK to another EU country, suppose moving from CH is different - sorry. Glad that you've made the decision though, I think it's the best choice.

So sorry to hear your friend is having a hard time makecakes. It must be really difficult for her, I just hope he is just having problems getting his head around it and it is not a sign
of things to come. At least she has a lovely friend like you to support her.

Ernest, how fast things are moving now! I am definately putting my foot down about visiting this time I don't intend satying at the hospital long (would love a HB but it scares dh
and the birth in hospital last time was fine just hated being on a ward got no sleep or privacy) and if people want to come and visit they can come to me, no mobile visiting and hopefully it will stop mil making insensitive comments (no it won't but it will make me feel more secure I think). I would say to your mum as well, you could always butter it up saying that at a time like that you really want your mum around but no-one else other than your dh and children, surely she can understand that!

xx

hi wombat welcome. i wish i'd known about mumsnet for my pregnancy with ds, i only found out about it when he was about 6 months old. when i think how much smaller my phone bill would have been, not needing to ring my sis in canada 10 times a day!!

ernest hope you're feeling good about your decision.

i found an osteopath on an old thread recommended for SPD and turns out she's right in my area. hoping to nip it in the bud before it gets much worse, the woman who mentioned her found her through having private care during 2nd pregnancy and said she's excellent. midwife offered physio referral but i'd already found this woman's name so thought i'd try her instead, never had much success with physio for anything else but an osteopath fixed chronic (10 year) back pain in one session several years ago so have a lot of faith!

Ernest- decision made- great news. Sending all moral support as won't be able to fly out and help you pack.

Feeling very weeble-like too!

Thanks for all the love people...I now it's hormones, but I just feel like DH is leaving me to do this whole pregnancy all by myself. He never listens when I tell him things and hasn't so much as cuddled me in weeks. I'm undoubtedly blowing things out of all proportion, but am just feeling a little weary of being a glorified housekeeper. I know I have nothing to complain about... you guys all have much busier lives.

Anyway- have had a large hot chocolate and feel much better. Just need DH to come home before I fall asleep so I can 'have a chat!'

Welcome Wombat.

And hello Jood, sorry about the bike. Grrr.

Ernest, fab, decision made. How do you feel now you have decided it? Relieved? Daunted? Exhausted?

Makecakes, sorry you're feeling fed up. Sometimes DPs are a nightmare.

Just spoke to my friend and then got a lovely text from her. She says her DH is really coming round to the idea and has cheered up hugely. Apparently doc thinks she is 7.2 weeks pregnant (she was determined not to keep count of her period days and thinks her last one was 7 or so weeks ago) so she has a scan next week. That means she's only 4 months behind me! Cool! Cool! Cool!

Re the controlling thing, it's not great. But she has defended herself. Thank you all for your support and kind words for me and her. I passed on all the virtual chocolate.

Hi everyone - only went to a conference for one day and its taken half an hour to catch up on everything .

Thanks all for advice on light/colour - I do still love the colour in daytime so def wont change it. Am going to go with a dimmer switch to lessen the evening/main light effect. It was a little better once I'd hung the lightshade and DH has convinced me it will look completely different once all the furniture and stuff is in. Anyway, every time I think its a bit bright I'm going to think of deb and her lime green nursery .

Ernest - for what its worth, I think you're doing the right thing moving beforehand. It made me chuckle when you said your extreme reaction was due to just coming off the phone with your mother. I love mine to pieces but she drives me MAD and I'm sure people think I'm a complete cow when I talk about her sometimes.

Makecakes - dont feel unloved; who else am I going to hang about in the sand with????

Ucakes - glad you're friend has cheered up, fingers crossed it all works out for her.

Hope everyone else doing well, and hello wombat!

Hey makecakes - think yourself lucky - I have to fight dh off with a stick!!

blimey deb, thanks for sharing

makes cakes, hope your 'chat' went well. For 35 years or so I thought men were normal, rational human being. The scales fell from my eyes a while abck and now I see that (ok if anyone's dh isn't what I'm about to say, then they are either a. the exception that proves the rule, or b. hiding it well, and the truth will out, eventually) ALL MEN ARE NUMPTIES.

They are lazy, stupid, and emotionally thinck. Or is it us that's stupid for allowing them to be lazy?

Sigh, I don't know,

but anyway, U-cake, very very glad your friend's dh is coming round to the idea. What a memory to have of her precious announcement though!

M-cakes, don't feel unloved and don't apologise for moaning, that's (one of the reasons) why we're here, to support each other. And needing and not getting a cuddle/feeling suported by your dh is just as bas as erm - fighting them of with sticks, à la Deb.

FIL arrived yesterday - and managed to bring the baby car seat (tho lovely is a world-class numty, a prime example of having being married for 40 years). Can't believe he remembered! SO my 1st thing for Tinkeli. Put straps on smallest setting so teeny tiny. awwwwww.

Anyone see that programme about the teen mums last night? I saw part of it through fil snores. Could not beleieve how they were all on their mobiles the entire time, sisters, mums, teens mid-contraction and about to give birth, bloody mid contraction and still nattering down their mobiles???? And they all seemd to have at least 2 each?! What's that all about? I've given birth 3 times, and at no point do I remember feeling the need for a natter down my mobile. (Besides, when I had dh1 they had barely been invented ) But when the camera zoomed in on that teeny little blinking, confised little new born face. awwww. Actually had a broody moment!

You're up at some ridiculously early time Ernest

If I can't share on here who can I tell? Apparently Dh wants to make up for the time lost after when boobs squirt milk at him at opportune moments. I suggested that it might be a great time to express some milk - for some reason he doesn't think that particularly sexy!!

Glad your FIL is with you, is he coping OK? Will he be able to help you practically whilst he stays with you - do some packing etc? Have you told the boys yet about the change in plans?

woke up at 4 for wee and then the stress hit me and I had to get up.

I suppose the actual move doesn't bother me, it's the fact our house isn't sold, not even had a sniff. That's really panicking me. Spoke to an agent yesterday. Apart from costing ££££££££££££££££££, she helpfully told me in CH average time to sell house is 1 year! So that's really stressed me out. Esp. as they're building on the field opposite so that's going to reduce our chance even further. Am going to have nervous breakdown.

Ds2 now poorly.

Am freaking out about how to tell boys. Will tell them tonight or tomorrow when dh home.At least in a few weeks we will be all togther again and that's a very good thing. Fel esp. bad for ds3 . New country, new house, starting Kindergarten for 1st time, not going to same place as his bothers, so not have them for support, everything in German and then just to round it all off, a new baby.

Faint.

Poor dss

WTF do I do about our house ?????

ernest - I agree completely with the "emotionally thick" comment. My DH is so well-meaning but can't ever understand that I might need hugs and support.

And like Deb, my DH is very excited that I'm not breastfeeding at the moment! After 17 months of it with DS, DH keeps saying this is his window of opportunity (While I was breastfeeding they were strictly hands off - an unspoken rule we both agreed with).

ernest - it's only been three years since our international move so I'm trying to think what the key forms and stuff were. Our movers handled the customs forms which helped a lot, and for us the big thing was getting a spouse visa for DH so he could work in Britain. Otherwise all the hellish paperwork was once we arrived (trying to open a bank account, getting a national insurance number etc.) But we did this before kids and before owning a house and it was hard enough then! I'm sending lots of hugs your way!

sorry to be banging on about this.

how/what do I tell the boys? They have accepted we're moving end July/beginning August. That they will finish school year here, that Tinkeli will be born here, that we're in fact moving to Munich not Milan. Not we're moving the goal posts again, by moving asap. Ds1 esp concerned as his birthday in August and wanted a party with his friends. not that that was ever going to happen, but he was banking on it.

I am planning to throw a leaving party for them, where they can invite all thier friends. But how/what do we tell them tonight, how do we sell the suddenness, apart from being good to be with daddy again?

And how do we make them feel happier or exctied about it? (am trying for example not to burst into tears in front of them?)

LOL Debs! They say the grass is always greener...maybe we should do wife swap for a week??

Are they young enough that you can con them into thinking that July is in fact in April? If they like the new school enough, you could tell them that they really want your kids to start soon...will wrack my sleep-fuddled brain and come upi with something better, I promise.

Off to see our new kitchen today....DH has very little work on at the mo (eek...) so staying until Monday. Yippeee. Now to convince him we need broadband down there too.

Have a good weekend all.

Sounds like it's been a bit of a week here! Sending big hugs to everyone who needs them today.

Ernest - I feel for you. I don't know if I have any advice for you, but the big selling point for your boys must be that you're all going to be together? I'm sure others will have some better advice, but I hope you get it sorted and you feel better about it all soon. House moving/selling etc is a nightmare at the best of times.

We're decorating, DP has got cold, I've got toothache, and we have to get old furniture out for new furniture and flooring arriving, as well as finish all the painting in the next 2 days! Can't I just stay in bed in my pjs with my laptop today....?

That doesn't make much sense...[MC whispers: we have a second home/hovel/money pit near the seaside...]

upsidecake - great news re your friend. I think her DH was in shock. It's great that she stood up for herself and he's coming around. Brilliant.
Whoever made the comment about it it being a bad first memory, I can see that. I don't think I'll ever forget my DH's awful reaction, but the emotion it illicited has faded since it happened.

Ernest - will 'we're going to be back with daddy' not be enough? Even if they are upset they will get over it. I know it's not great to have to break the news, but if you show you're excited and happy about it I suppose that might rub off on them? Good luck anyway!

M-Cakes, lol, sadly, no, couldn't fool 'em like that. they know we're due to move in July, after the baby is born, and that it will be at end of summer holidays, so will have to come clean. Hopefully they will agree that daddy is a big enough bonus

Tryine to be as proactive and positive as possible - thanks for your suggestion Josey, I have asked my next door neighbour to do viewings after we leave, and she agreed shtraight away so hat puts me at a bit more ease.

Now have to get on with placing a few more adverts about...

And lots of praying.

morning all

Ernest have you thought about having an open day for your house, it seems to be a popular thing to now do. Not sure what the best approach is with the boys maybe that daddy is missing them all too much and how would they feel about going to Germany a few weeks sooner?

I have to say generally my DH is fantastic though he does go through spells where he puts his blinkers on and doesnt see what is going on around him. Apart from that when he is home he does ALL housework (bar ironing and making the dinner)walks the dog takes DS to his clubs does his homework does the night shift with DD if she wakes comes and does the tesco shop so i dont have to lift anything, If im upset he hugs me if im grumpy he goes and does the garden or washes the car lol so when he is being a Numptie I do forgive him quite quickly.

I had weird dream last night, I lived in a beach hut community all the electric went bad and the houses where live I went into labour and had to give birth in a beach cave but it was all vey calm oh well!

whinegums, sorry, forgot to add, sounds like you've got tons on too, and with toothache too I give you my full permission to stay in bed with lap top and chocolate today.

M-cakes hope the new kitchen is nice. Enjoy your w/e by the seaside. Hope wether picks up

Forgot to say - today is the end of my last full week. Four days a week from now on (with lots of antenatal appointments taking it down to 3 and half a lot) and only eight weeks left at work! Wooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
Am quite excited. It couldn't come too soon. Have been properly knackered every Friday for the last few weeks and definitely need to slow down.
30 days left at work. I can't quite believe it.
Am now 28 weeks pg which is just amazing to me - where has the time gone?

Dh is most definitely a numpty. He's been away since Sunday, got back last night and I was allowed 1 (short) sentence about the lovely doula before he started banging on AGAIN about work. And I haven't even had a hug. Don't particularly feel like having to fight him off with a stick a la Deb but it would be nice to know that he was pleased to see me. And he still hasn't got my maternity clothes out of storage. And I know that he'll be just as bad about getting the baby things out of storage. When DD was born I asked him from my hospital bed if he'd got the crib/car seat/pram/clothes out of storage and he yelled at me about pressurising him and being demanding. Sorry, will shut up now. He's generally lovely but pure numpty.

Ernest - would a big leaving party be a good opener/sweetener? Would it be worth thinking about letting the house? Or will there be tax consequences if you continue owning property in Switzerland after you are no longer resident? Not surprised you're anxious about it.

Gross pregnancy symptom #472 - I have really hot, itchy legs. Bit like heat bumps but with extra lovely itchy bits around my v veins . Hmm, maybe I shouldn't be surprised that DH doesn't need fighting off with a stick...

Rolf - your DH sounds like he needs training.
Whenever my DH is like that I just point out calmly I'm not being unreasonable, and wait for him to apologise!

Can't believe he hasnt' got your maternity clothes out yet!!!

Rolf I think I would stand in my underware or naked at the front door they next time I was due to go somewhere with my DH and say right we ready and when he asked about my state of dress say well unless you get my clothes out of storage I have to ware this - either that or I would just sod him and go and buy more!

Whinegums think you need to stay in bed with creme eggs and your laptop

Im having a very amuzing morning with the builders trying to sort the drainage in my garden now they are Numpties with a Degree in Numpty hood.

Hello all,

i can't believe how some of DH are, maybe i'm quite demanding and were in our 1st baby bubble, but its just not acceptable! My monthly purchase of baby magazines has developed into 'talk time', so when he see them on the side he seems to know what is about to happen at tea time, 'how do you feel' etc. And often when he comes home or off the computer i will tell him the baby is reacting to his voice (which does normally happen) that normally leads into him telling the baby about his crap day at work, and leaves me with the cuddles.

I am glad that i have only 2 shifts at work left (after nxt week annual leave) and there both on a weekend so traditionally quieter, so i finish by 29 weeks, which i can't wait coz i feel like a hefalump! i was told the second trimester was were you get your energy back, well mine bypassed me and went to bed!