September 2019 babies - thread #4

[Stroan]

Starting a new thread before the old one gets filled up!

I haven’t taken any anti sickness meds for a couple of weeks, and haven’t actually vomited in a while, but woke up feeling sick as a dog yesterday

I’ll be giving NCT a miss then. This isn’t my first rodeo, and my face has a terrible habit of blantantly showing its “shut the fuck up talking shit” expression - it’s like it’s completely out of my control
As for the breastfeeding thing, I’m very very pro-breastfeeding personally, but will always respect a woman’s choice. For me, breast has always been my first choice, then I’ve used donor milk before moving onto formula has my last ditch saloon with my eldest. Youngest was breastfed until I made myself really ill. Because of all his allergies, I had to cut lots of things out of my diet to stop him getting poorly, and I got to the point where I was terrified to eat anything other than green veg in case I made him poorly Was not in a good place and I lost a ridiculous amount of weight. I’m a petite person anyway, and I dropped down to 7st That’s when I moved him onto a amino-acid based formula so I could eat normally without being scared of hurting him!

Eggy I have the same face! It cannot lie!

happydays i don't remember still being sick at this point with the others, i do remember with dc1 developing middle of the night sickness after 16 weeks so hopefully that doesnt happen again. I have drank a little now and not been sick but will need to eat soon or i will be!

And sorry to lower the tone, but these “digestive issues” are really starting to get on my tits
Is it really so much to ask to go back to solid poo?!!
I’m not eating any differently and I’m drinking plenty, but the poop situation goes from one extreme to the other!! What the hell?!!! I don’t remember this with either of my last two pregnancies.

I’m eating a ton of fruit and drinking apple juice which helps with that. Failed last night though. After throwing up on opening the fridge, walking round the supermarket and trying to get a pizza out the oven I resorted to just some garlic bread for dinner!

Annoyingly we've just booked a week away in summer and it covers the weekend of my month's NCT. There is a late September-October one and I'm wondering if I'd be better to go for that than to go to one further away?

Rather disturbingly there don’t seem to be any nct courses at all by me!

@IVEgottheDECAF I'm 14+6 and I seem to have maybe one or two episodes of nausea and vomiting a week now, I keep thinking it's gone completely and I'm better then I will have to put my head down the toilet and feel terrible. I kept being sick occasionally right through with my last one though.

@IVEgotthedecaf me. 15 weeks and still extremely nauseous and sick several times a day. I'm picking up every bug going because my immune system seems to have deserted me (probably because of the complete lack of nutrition) and dehydrated every day. I agree it might be worth a GP visit for anti-emetics.

Also suffering from severe rage at everyone who says "should you not be feeling better by now?"

I did NCT last time because we'd just moved and I wanted to make friends. I enjoyed the classes although they were a bit anti-drugs (in labour!) and militant breastfeeding (although annoyingly, the BF consultant didn't offer me any support when I was actually struggling). I was glad I'd done my own research and could be a bit critical about some of the guidance.

There were 6 couples at ours and we all seemed to get on well. Met up each week but two of them became really judgemental. I combi-fed because DD never once latched on and they told me that I just hadn't tried hard enough. They judged anyone who bought anything new, went to baby classes, didn't exclusively BF or baby led wean, didn't use cloth-everything. By 7 months I had PND and couldn't cope with their lectures any more. I'm still a bit sad because I invested so much time in that friendship group and then ended up with no-one.

This time, I wanted to do Daisy Babies because there's a strong community of Daisy Mums in my town. But they've just stopped doing the classes! Need to find something else, but assume it's a little harder to make friends when you already have a rampaging toddler!

Oh @Stroan that's an awful experience for you. I never judge another mum's parenting choice when it comes to feeding, weaning, clothing, routines etc. All these judgments make me very angry.

Also sorry to hear about the flippant comments you are getting. People who have never had HG really have no idea!!! I hope you do have some good support around you, I found the Hyremesis board on MN extremely helpful last time as my friends in real life were just clueless.

@IVEgottheDECAF my last post said pills but it meant to say "polos". Sucking on them stops me retching throughout the day.

Whoever mentioned garlic bread, yum! I really want some now but 9am isn't really acceptable is it?!

That sounds shite Stroan. They would definitely be no use for me then with my elective sections and failed breastfeeding! I couldn't get eldest to latch on at all, spent a fortnight madly pumping and bottle feeding the breast milk every 2-3 hours because he wouldn't even look at my nips despite me trying constantly. There was zero support in my area at the time, mw was useless, no groups and my friends had all formula fed. When number 2 came along again I tried, she latched but it was just so sore and again zero support.

In two minds this time, part of me would really like to try again and there is actually a group here now for support. Will have a go but definitely won't beat myself up if it doesn't work out.

@easterbuns1 oh no, they would have hated you. I never even admitted that I had gas and air in labour, let alone diamorphine!

DD just would not latch, ever. NHS support was limited, the midwife forgot to refer me and by the time I got their details they said they had younger babies who were a priority. I paid a private consultant but think it was a bit late. I fed with nipple shields, expressed and did formula top ups for 7 months. It was exhausting. Nobody in their right mind would suggest I didn't try hard enough.

I want to try again, will be more vocal when asking for support, but I'm giving it 4 weeks max. I can't be in the same position again when I also have DD to think about. And no guilt this time.

@happydays00 who says garlic bread at 9am is unacceptable?!

My Mum is staying just now to look after DD (and me!) while DH is at a conference. I'm very, very grateful but she is constantly looking for evidence that I'm better. This morning she said "you don't seem as nauseous, you must be getting better".

OH REALLY?! And what exactly does nauseous "seem" like?

Hmm, I'll maybe look to see if there are any other classes in Aberdeen than NCT. I'd just like something both me and the man can do together, it's almost more for him because I don't want his stress to transfer to me.

@lavellan I found that NCT was great for DH because he understood what I wanted and why it was important to me which let him really advocate for me in labour.

@Stroan I think you deserve a medal for keeping it up that long under those circumstances, two weeks of feeling like a failing friesian stuck to a pump was all I could take!

DH is dreading the NCT classes but he really needs something to make him engage - he is definitely head in the sand at the moment.

I am planning cloth nappies as most of my friends used them (one was a nappy consultant) and so I do at least have them for advice - and they didn't seem to find it hard at all - we do try and do our bit environmentally (I have a fully electric car) so cloth makes sense to us.

BF on the other hand does seem a right performance - I am happy to give it a try for a few weeks, but if I don't like it/baby does't get the hang of it I have no qualms about FF. I am not being a martyr for anything.

I also want the fully medicalised birth with all the drugs/epidural and preferably ELCS. I don't do pain.

Tried to get out of bed today and my core seems to have vanished! Like a beached whale already (only 13+6).
Felt almost like a pulled muscle from ribs down across belly. Not quite popped yet but it is definitely bigger!

Also still very uncomfortable in the top of legs/inner thigh area. Urrgghh

I jinxed myself saying sickness has cleared up at 13 weeks. Spent all morning being sick, haven't kept anything down yet! Maybe it's a bug?

I had been thinking about ELCS. My four have all been straight forward births with no interventions required but i am a bit concerned about different risks i am told of now. What is putting me off is the recovery time from a section.

My last two births were 5 hours from first twinge to baby in my arms and i was discharged within 6 hours after birth. Last time i was at parents evening at school the next day. I generally recover well. When my SIL had her section she couldn't even stand up without help 3 days afterwards. I don't want that.

Crickey stroan my NCT group wasn't (isn't!) like that at all! We've the full spectrum from home births to planned sections (as in fact had our instructor- she'd had a home birth, a hospital birth and a planned section herself!), cloth nappies and not etc. We did all breastfeed (the support here is really excellent though, so nobody had major struggles) but for very different amounts of time. Key thing is that we are all still struggling on and helping each other out! megan if breastfeeding goes well it's so much less faffy than anything else, it's when it doesn't (and the support is not right) that it gets a bit horrific...

Urgh to the vommers/nausea bound peeps!!! You are such troopers!!! I'm feeling mostly better, but dodgy enough not to panic.

Who's still to be scanned??? Mine's on Monday...

IVEgot I might not have any choice but an elective section if this fucking placenta doesn’t sort it’s life out and move
My first was born in hospital, and honestly the experience has scarred me for life. Not necessarily the birth itself, but the way I was treated, and the abysmal “care” I received. I won’t go into detail, but it was absolutely horrendous.
My second was a planned homebirth purely because going to the hospital is literally my worst nightmare.
Now with this one, I may have the choice completely taken from me and I’m completely and utterly terrified. Not because of the potential csection - if a surgeon could come and do it on my kitchen table, I’d be all for it. It’s the fact that I’ll have to go to the hospital, be in a theatre with 10+ people that I do not remotely trust, and I’ll have to stay in hospital afterwards.
I’ve always said that I would have to be in a really dire life or death situation to willingly have a baby in a hospital again, and now placenta praevia may have just thrown a spanner in the works

@Megan2018 yep I’ve been noticing turtle on it’s back syndrome too. I’m usually pretty fit and it’s things like that I struggle with!

Sorry you had such a bad experience eggy! Heres hoping the placenta moves! One of my things i am at risk of is an unstable lie, so if as the midwife put it "baby uses the uterus like a hammock" then i too may have no choice about ELCS.

I am also a bit concerned as dc4 was 5 hours from first twinge, but also back to back which i imagine slowed him down. If he was the right way around how quick would it have been and then how quick may this one be? I don't really want a homebirth since i am at risk of PPH