due MARCH 2007-thread no ?????

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i cant see a new thread so i thought id start another one!

Mad as a fish eh Foxy? here's the book
You know I can't believe that you are only 8 weeks away from d day, where HAS the time gone? It seems like only yesterday that we are all here nervously wondering whether things would work out ok.
Took dc's to indoor play area this morning.
It's not too bad there as it is mostly full of well meaning, mothers of Lewes who all wear Boden clothes and drink skinny lattes, whatever they are so there are not so many tosser kids.
Infact we only encountered one and his parents were clearly aware that he was a problem and dealt with things really well.
Anyway, I used some of the techniques in the book when we were there and instead of reacting as normal to the 'he hit me' complaints and getting worked up., i did what the book suggested and we all had a much better time, phew (wipes brow)

thats two books i have to get...now all i need is to go into hospital for bed rest for a few days so i have time to read stuff
i shouldnt tempt fate saying things like that.my bp has been behaving perfectly well the past week and i'd like it to stay that way at least untill baby can come out without any problems.

is there a 'how to talk so your partner will listen'?

leo - I am going for c-section no3 - the first was an emergency and the 2nd was elective as this one will be also.

I was adamant 1st time round that I did not want an epidural and I did not want a c-section. In fact one of the very first questions I asked after dd1's heart defect was diagnosed in utero was do I do have to have a section..... well at the time - no was teh answer.

As it turned out my placenta was 'compromised' read - had packed it in and dd1 needed to be born then.... Even knowing there was a lot at stack with dd1's heart defect and ds and the dodgy placenta - it really was a calm and relaxing experience. Even for someone like me who had never had surgery before - had never been in a hospital as a patient before and who hated needles etc.

Dd2 came along or rather she did not want to come along. My consultant was quite happy to let me try for a vbac although he was concerned about dd2's size and my scar. Alas it was not to be - another elective section - entirely my decision but worked out for the best. Again - very calm relaxed experience - almost surreal. Chatting to the theatre staff whilst they are rummaging in my stomach to bring dd2 out - she was given to me and I was able to cuddle her whilst I was being stitched up and she fed in recovery. Unfortunately dd1 was rushed to ICU and so I only got to see her in the operating theatre. Dh got to see dd2 being born and he cut the cord - I think I might ask if the screen can come down so I can see baby no3 being born.

If you want some handy hints about what to take re recovery - just ask - more than happy to answer.

I think what helped me accept a c-section after being so adamant that I would not have one was the fact that - that is what it would take for dd1 to be born and be okay iyswim. In some ways not having a choice and knowing that is what was best for dd1 really helped me accept it. Had no probs bonding etc event hough dd1 was in icu/scbu for three weeks and then again at 8 weeks old - another three weeks in hospital.

When it came to dd2 - I was more terrified of a vaginal birth than a c-section as I knew what to expect with the c-section and in fact 2nd time round recovered quite quickly.

Sorry for the long post - hope that helps a little.

Eids I might come back to you for advice if my placenta doesn't shift, as I would need a c-section too. It can't be that bad if your going for it for a third time...?

Kitty - thanks for that link. I need that book I think.... I loved your decsription of the Boden Mums and the one "tosser" . I like Boden (only when there's a sale on mind) but refuse to pay £3 for a skinny latte!! I'm more of a "sare my kids apple juice" Mum

Foxy, I like some Boden sale stuff, but often I find that too expensive I'm a tight git .
I don't know if it's that i've forgotton what my babies' movments in utero have felt like, but this one seems to have a knack of shacking his entire body so that my intenstines wobble around and it makes me feel quite sick. He likes to do this particularly when we both wake up in the morning. Still, at least he's asleep at night now which is a relief!

Diva I know what you mean about having the time to read. The only time I get is afte the kids are finally all down and by then I'm too tired and can't concentrate.

Eids, glad you're all sorted out birth-wise. When will they give you a date?

I used to live on a doggy poo street and it was really depressing, then last place I lived everyone had a small paved front garden and they all kept huge dogs and never seemed to walk them.
If they didn't have a huge dog they had a huge trampoline and all their kids would wrestle in there while their mums chatted and drank their Vodka.
Almost every weekend there was a fight and loads of police landrovers parked out the front. I had one lovely welsh neighbour who kept giving me hand me down 'sports' wear for the kids, but I was terrified of all my other neighbours....they were all related to/ members of a paramilitary organisation oh I'm still so happy everyday that I don't live there now.

There's a park I go to and people are very good, they lift the doggy poo in little bags and then chuck the bag in the hedge, so there's all these poo filled bags dangling off branches. It's lovely.

Having said all that, my heart still aches for my childhood family dog. The thickest springer spaniel that ever lived. I called ds2 after him but dh doesn't know that

Rosy - poo filled bags dangling off branches - sounds lovely!

You know there's a really weird thing, sorry if tmi, when you're cleaning up after your dog in a park. Sometimes you go to clean it up with your little bag, and it's cold so you realise it isn't your dog's. And I don't know why, but there is something so yukky about that it almost knocks you sick. (But picking up your own dog's poo in a little bag is perfectly okay ).

Foxy like your new name!

Well just had my driving lesson and my instructor said he thinks I'm making progress. Phew! I was starting to entertain thoughts of giving up; it's so strange, I learn everything else so quickly but driving feels like such a slog! So I was well pleased he said that!

Mil is coming over today and her and dh are sorting the spare room again, so I'll be tidying the house and walking the dogs. I won't go as mad as last weekend though with the mop and the bleach and all that. Not sure what came over me!

Oh sorry Foxy forgot to say, we are at the stage now where NatWest's solicitors have put in their really complicated defence, so I have written the reply to it, and am filling in the court questionnaire this weekend.

I am a member of this forum which gives you loads of templates for letters and the like. It's been really helpful so far, and there are many success stories to keep you going when it is difficult.

I am determined now...

Good morning one and all and what a good morning, o joy. Following a lovely evening which started with a long soak in a very deep bath, then dressed up and DP took me out for an Indian meal where we had the most divine trout dish ever, I went to bed at 12 and fell straight asleep - MIRACLE - slept through till 4am - second miracle - back to bed and straight back to sleep until the morning (prob 8ish or so) got up at 9. I cannot tell you how happy that has made me!!!!

Jay SO pleased your cat has come home. I'd be devastated if my furry monster went missing (not much danger of that, she never leaves the garden these days - it's pushing it to get her out the house some days!).

Fox, like the new name. A few days ago I was feeling about to pop and heavy but yesterday I actually felt quite sexy bizarrely - not something I thought I'd be saying at 7 months pregnant.

I hate people who let their dogs shit in the street - there's always a bit down our street. I do generally like dogs, bigger ones rather than smaller ones mainly, although not the rottweiler etc type. I used to look after my friend's German pointer when I was young if they went away and he was the most beautiful dog in every sense. Even my mum, who's not overkeen on animals (or rather pets that she would have had to end up looking after, I think, and she was right - she ended up with three cats which three daughters brought home from uni and never claimed ), completely fell in love with him and would have kept him.

Kiwi, I'm off to look at your pics now. Jay, your daughter's dead cute by the way, forgot to say earlier. One picture of her she really looks like somebody but I can't think who.

Eids, your description of your CS births is really nice, particularly encouraging given as the first was an emergency. I hope the next one is as calm and good an experience for you.

My other reason for feeling so good is I did my last early (or late) shift yesterday, and am now on five weeks of day shifts before I sail off into maternity land. 25 working days - weehaa.

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The bugaboo is also extremely popular here in zurich, i think it started off as a fashion item for people who have perfectly behaved babies, dressed perfectly in designer clothes and also consider the baby to be a fashion item, however now EVERYONE has them just because they are really good, practical, light, flexible. I'm more of a country girl and need one I can walk through the forest with, run and inline skate with and you can't do that with a bugaboo.

Where was the thread on dogs and joggers boo, I'm got jumped on and bitten by a dog while out running a few years ago, had ot have a piece of my bum cut out where a tooth had gone in too deep. However, i am only unhappy with dog owners that allow their dogs to do things like that, and don't clear their poo up afterwards.

Kitty, I also think the 'How to talk...' book has some good ideas. Some of the things evern work with my ds who is only 22 months. what is the other book you are talking about? Lost it somewhere in the thread.

Eids, thanks for the post about your CSs, I have been having a really good think about what went wrong last time and think maybe a few main problems, it was emergency so I felt completely out of control, swept along and shocked, communication with me was really bad - partly due to a language thing maybe - and I didn't see ds properly when he was first born (although he had cried and there was no reason for him to be whizzed off to the paediatrician) - as soon as the babies are born I want them to be given to dh to bring to me before they are taken away for checking (unless its critical), if I can get these things sorted out this time it could be better. Recovery was also bad, I couldn't stand for long enough until 4 days after to even change ds's nappy, i think that was unusual and it may not be so bad this time, but I know I'm going ot need every bit of strength to bf two babies and look after a toddler when i get home.... so advice welcome! I'll let you know when I start a thread about this.

Kiwi, loved your pics. The pictorial review of the year is a really good idea. A friend of mine sent me theirs - I think I might try and do one at the end of this very significant year too.

Oh Feck - I just wrote a really lengthy post and DD fell on the keyboard and wiped it

Kitty - R your kids off school until Monday?

Leo - sorry your CS was such a bad experience. I hope the new baby has a more satisfactory birth. I felt out of control for my first birth with DS and was a lot more confident 2nd time round; although the method first time was better. I just felt I knew what to expect and could make my wishes clearer second time.

Rosy/Moss - PMSL at your dof poo stories. Seeing little bags hanging on bushes is preferable to steeping in it though. Rosy - that's a bit shocking about the paramilitary's families; are there generally less paramilitaries these days due to the talks/disarming etc?

Just got a delivery of two bottle of Chardonnay from my mortgage broker - an apology for a mishap on her behalf. Since then she's sompletely messed up our application though hhhmmmph!

Got to take the decorations down today - has everyone else done it yet?

Will we evolve into a post natal thread do you think?

I meant to organise a Christmas meet up but have been too tired. I was thinking that if we have a post natal thread and I could organise a picnic somewhere in the summer hols? Our babies will be 5-6 months by then!!!!

Leo, the book's another one for dpressed people, you don't osund as if you need it!!

Foxy, yes the kids are off 'till monday. For some really stupid reason we didn't break up 'till 21st. The children were SO exhausted by the end they didn't even want to do all the end of term christmassy stuff. I'd like to deck the plonker who's detirmined the term times this year, but they've got no kids

That would be great wouldn't it? I'd love to meet you all. Some of you at least know what me, my bum ,my dp and my kids look like . I want to know what you look like.
Talking of my bum, Callie I got your SAE today, I'll download it for you this weekend.

Kitty - I was thinking we could either picnic here in our garden, or on Brighton beach near that fab play area, or in a big park somehwere where the older ones could have a play while we coo over each other's babies.

Its nice to think that in six months time we'll have babies who can sit up and the weather will be hot nad sunny

oooh I must go and do some tidying up now....

Well, you're also all more than welcome to come here. The garden is big and there's a pool for the older kids.We could trundle down to the beach if people wanted?

Argh forgot about the deccies! Will have to do the tree today (we've already taken down all the cards, and the tinsel). Dh will be happy (he's such a grump, his work colleagues this year called him the Grinch!) but I'll be sad to see it go, it's so pretty!

I have an idea in my head what everyone on here looks like but apart from Kitty (because of the birth dvd) I don't actually know; a meet up would be lovely but where on earth would we have it?

Leo, inline skating, with a buggy? Wow! I'm dead impressed! I wanted one that I could get on and off a bus without too much fuss and that I could push down the dirt path that goes from ours into town, so light but sturdy.

I let myself get talked into a really expensive one, but I am a sucker for a good sales pitch (I do sales myself so when someone does a really good sell on me I'm more vulnerable because I think, "ooh that's a good technique I should use it more" and buy it out of admiration!!!!)

Well I had better tidy the house; I've put MTV Dance on for a bit of motivational music to pump me up... let's go!

Hopefully by Summer I will be able to drive, otherwise getting anywhere even outside of Merseyside's going to be a nightmare with a lo, no matter how good the buggy is!!!

see obstetric consultant at 30 weeks - think appt is 24 or 23rd Jan and we will discuss dates then. Hospital policy is to do c-section at 39 weeks although with dd2 is was 40w + 10 days as I was holding out for a vbac at the time. Anyway - I think i felt more nervous for the elective than I did for the emergency.

is it not way past your bedtime, young lady ?

Just took our decorations down and we have our living room back after taking the giant redwood to the tip! Can't wait as in two weeks we're getting the living room decorated and that's us done! Woo! Nice "nursery", Bathroom, Kitchen and then Living Room!... ahhh now to decide on colours..

A summer meet up would be fantastic!

I was wondering about meeting up sometime too. Also, we are going to have a post-natal thread, aren't we??? I would have gone spare without you lot before now to talk to and get advice and support from - don't see that changing after LO arrives....

Thanks for that Kitty, looking forward to it! Btw - you've got a pool??

What colours have people gone for/got with the nursery? We were just discussing it earlier.

With the decs, DP's usually dead keen on getting them down a few days after New Year but this year he said he loves having them up and doesn't want to take them down so looks like they're staying. I don't mind as I'm a sucker for the Christmas tree.

After my lovely relaxing night, the LO gave me a bit of a scare this morning by just not moving at all. In the end, DP spoke in a deep rumbly voice at the bump, and what do you know, it worked. Was a relief as I suddenly felt very depressed after that and reading one of the MN threads where someone's got a tough choice to make. I really should keep off all threads apart from this one!

I hope we will have a post-natal thread! Although if I go over, I could be on an April one actually if that happens I'll just pretend he was born in March

Our nursery is going to be wallpapered, with laminate flooring, dh and his mate have turned the tumble dryer into a baby-changing unit, and one of the alcoves which would have been a fire place when the house was built (1854!) into a huge wardrobe. The colour scheme there will be a dado (sp?) rail round the middle, as it's a ridiculously high ceiling, and a maroon / red on the top bit to try and bring the ceiling down a bit, and then a cream underneath.

Curtains will be a very thick maroon colour.

This is all dh's idea, I was very impressed, he pleaded with me to let him choose the colour scheme and I was very but gave in, and must say I was pleasently surprised. (I do think mil helped though!)

They are in there doing it now, it was a nightmare to start, the room had dodgy carpet and the original floorboards were wrecked, it costs so much money, never realised how much it costs when you have your own house!!

What about everyone else?

Went back to school this morning. Was nice to see the kids, but I can't waint until I can just stop! They do make me laugh, though...

Leo, Bugaboos are really good all-terrain buggies! I spend most of my time walking the dog in muddy woods and parks, on beaches, and on my parents' gravel drive, and the bugaboo was one of the best, and the lightest. It has different settings for different terrains. Must admit, it doesn't mention ice. You're right foxy, it was like fate calling me to buy it.

Our nursery will be painted white, with a baby blue carpet, blue gingham curtains and lots of washable rugs. And my old magic roundabout lampshade from my baby room.

A summer meet-up sounds lovely! Imagine: summer, beautiful babies, booze. Aaah.

I didn't feel too 'got at' on the dog thread, thanks Moss. I was feeling really ancy yesterday. I've just got permanent pregnancy pmt.

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