December - yet another final thread!

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The last one was getting too long again. There's just no stopping us!

Castles, meant to say, can't believe the attitude of your gp. Have you contacted your mw to ask about the protein or are you seeing her again soon anyway? Just goes to show that doctors are not qualifies to deal with pg women doesn't it?

Elibean, my other 2 were both the right way round, I think my lax muscles this time may be contributing to it. From what I read on the website Calsworld recommended, I don't need to panic too much about OFP until 37 weeks or so as it's likely just to flip back, so I'll just wait and see.

Oops, lots of screaming from downstairs, think I ought to go and help dh with bedtime, catch up later!

Evening - tonight I start my e-bay ascent - hope the IL's dont pay too much attention as I know there are some clothes DD has which MIL will say should have gone to my niece - but NO, I have money to make!

Castles, I have read "There's a House inside my Mummy" every night for the last 3 months and am now word perfect and can recite it to DD as I walk around the room geting ready for bed etc. We also read "I'm a Big Sister", "The New Baby" and "How Does a Dinosaur say Goodnight?" In fact both DD and I are pretty much both word perfect on all four books

We got the New Baby and House inside my Mummy books a couple of weeks ago: dd quite likes New Baby because I make up all sorts of stories to go with the pictures, but is totally unkeen on the House one - she much prefers the Gruffalo

She's had such an unsettled time recently...still streaming from last week's cold, but very Mummy-mummy ish and up and down, and I'm sure thats imminent baby stuff. And also sure its all normal. Its me thats having a hard time about it, I keep feeling torn and wishing I could make it better for her but obviously I can't. Hormones don't help: I just want to cry with her - don't, but want to.

Castles, your gp honestly. Glad you have a mw friend, what did she say about the leaky feelings? And which way up? Am I now the only tranny?!

Olihan, bet your little one does flip - sounds pretty likely if the other two were right way up (ie down). I'm 37 weeks tomorrow, and been nothing but transverse since about 32 weeks, plus dd1 was mostly transverse (head down for about three weeks but not stable, flipped back to tranny when I was induced). Hence my about OFP for me personally - am sure it can help with others!

My bp hit 160/72 this evening when I took it as ordered - admittedly, had just lifted dd out of bath, crawled around on hands and knees getting her into her pjs, and then lugged myself down the landing but still. Think I'd better report it to unit when I go for bp check tomorrow. Oooh I don't want to be admitted yet...!

Aww, that's lovely VMS, I might get those other 3 books as well whilst I am a surge of hormones

I agree Olihan, most doctors do seem pretty inept at dealing with us pg ladies. I will call my m/w tomorrow to ask about protein etc. Of course now I have been told that the baby is head down (which I just can't believe) I am imagining that it is feet and not a head poking out beneath my norks. Have to say they are very large round feet

Eli, I sympathise about your DD. My DD who is normally the loudest, bounciest child has been SOOO quiet the last few days. She spent the whole afternoon cuddling her Granny this afternoon. Sweet but very unusual. I felt awful with DS (and he didn't have a clue what was happening before DD was born as he wasn't even 2) but this time I know DD will be ok especially as she has her brother and they are such chums/sparring partners . It's hard though isn't it? You feel guilty and wonder what you are letting yourself & them in for. It will be lovely though - I bet your DD will be a great help, fetching nappies etc.

I'm pretty sure I'm still a tranny My m/w pal said I would have felt my LO turn and my shape is still the same IYKWIM and still just as uncomfortable!

Maybe mine has big round feet and several teeny, tiny, poky little heads

x post.....thanks, Castles, you've been/are being a big source of comfort re dd

Wow take it easy tonight Eli won't you? Do you think having your mother around has anything to do with your bp surge? My bp usually goes up the minute my DM walks in the house, or rings

Eli, I remember ds going through a really odd phase not long before dd was born - not sleeping properly, wouldn't let dh do anything for him, everything was mummy, mummy, mummy. He was only 19 months so I don't think he knew what was going on, just picked up on the strange vibes. It's so hard knowing you're going to disrupt their little world but a year down the line, my two adore each other and all the heartache and guilt in the early days was well worth it [soppy emoticon]!

We've also got 'The New Baby' and ds is demanding it every night. I think he has a fair idea about what's going on but I don't think he's made the link between bump and baby (not sure the reality of that's hit me yet either and it's my third - you'd think I'd have some clue but no, just can't equate large bump with real baby yet!). At 2.10 I guess he's a bit young to be totally clued up on it all. Luckily, a couple of my close friends have had babies very recently so he's getting the hang of it. Dd has not got the faintest idea, which at 14 months isn't surprising, but she loves babies so I think she'll be okay.

My DD 2.9 hasnt been sleeping well lately either. She is excited about the baby and understands it might cry, need mummy to feed it, etc etc but her sleep is definitely affected and this is the only thing i can put it down to.

Good to hear we're not the only ones.

Thanks.....all very reassuring, just nice to share about it being upsetting and not stew over it, especially at bedtime
She refused to put a nappy on tonight, and is fast asleep in just pjs...not sure whether to go and put one on her or not...she's often dry, but not always...

Castles, DM definitely doens't help the bp - she's very keen to be helpful, but finding ways for her to help (when she's actually very helpless) is such hard work that I end up doing twice as much to prove I'm ok and she needn't worry: nuts!

BP hasn't suddenly surged, its been creeping up (top number, anyway) for a couple of weeks now. It does drop if I sit and relax for a minute or two, down nearer 140 or 145...but still. Yes, am going to take it as easy as itch will allow: off to bed early......goodnight all, hope everyone gets as peaceful and comfortable a night as bumps/LOs and life generally will allow

My DD (2y 3 mos) is having very disturbed sleeps too. She keeps tossing and moaning which then wakes us. It's pretty much constantly through the night...She too knows there is another baby coming and even asked me to feed her her TOAST the other day!!! She is suddenly going through a 'I want to be a baby again' phase and keeps walking around saying 'MINE MOMMY!' and a child out, must dare try to get on my lap!

It's most definately down to new baby coming!

Well, dont know if it's the calm before the storm, but my DD seems quite happy about the baby in my tummy. Despite all the books, perhaps she has'nt realised it's actually going to be coming out to meet her soon.

But at the moment everytime I show bare belly she say 'look thats Toby, hello Toby' and then she kisses my bump! Her Keyworker at pre-school thinks she's going to be a good big sister as she is very attentive when playing with dolls in prams etc.

Hmmm, the same way she is a good animal lover as she cuddles and strokes her toy tiger - and then carries our cats round in the same manner - I dont know if I agree with his reasoning or not - we shall have to wait and see

My threenanger is definitely affected by little brothers near arrival! He's very excited and cuddles his bro lots but on the other hand has regressed a bit. I'm trying to keep him on the straight and narrow (and I can't physically carry him everywhere despite his dinkiness) Unfortunatley MIL carries him and feeds him and does all those things that really annoy me
I'm trying to be really loving and cuddly without allowing him to turn into a baby again. For purely practical reasons I add. I just can't manage to carry two of them in 6 weeks time!!!

BTW, I'm not cool. As you all know we have no control over hormones so my state of mind has nothing to do with any control I've got over it! I think it's just a relative thing. In pg1 my Mum died at 14 weeks and I managed to not lose the plot because I was convinced that would have negative effects on DC1. So this time in comparison , a bit of utter chaos dosn't seem as bad, IYKWIM. And I'm going to have a kick ass home and DS1's room (which wasn't in original budget) is getting done for free by insurance company.(Not just ceiling but wallpaper/paint on walls which are unblemished by leak) Just to explain, Family Spin are swopping rooms arounsd throughout build. We(and Bean) are in DS1 future room while extension is built,before he moves over to it.

Have had some really intense pains low down in my bump. Braxton Hicks? Unable to walk,stand up straight.Last a few moments. Real contractions last time felt more period pain like (at first at least) Do BH feel like real ones? Does the above sound like BH? Shouldn't I know this stuff already?
I mrntioned to M/W that I was quite tender in lower bump on Monday ,but she obviously was clueless so kinda' ignored me about it.
Speaking of infuriating health professionals, my colleague at work came to be in confidence to ask for my opinion yesterday. Apparantly her doctor told her NOT to take folic acid while trying to conceive. Pointless was her actual phrase.Said you only needed to take it once you were pg.(True, but even someone like me who knows the day she ovulates couldn't be sure I was pg, as my two weeks on,two weeks off pattern of alcohol consumption testifies for the period of June 05 til April 06!)

Sorry long post.

Crossed posts.

My DS1 speaks to Baby Tom too,but only if belly is bare! So can't use "talking to baby" as a distraction in waiting rooms,on buses,etc unless I want to get my scary belly out.

...and DS1 has told me himself he's going to be a great (the "best" was his actual word) big brother, so I'm holding him to that

spina - i have to have a bare tum for dd to talk to it too

Aaahhhh....up half the night scratching. dd up the other half of the night being both very grown up and very little, IYSWIM! She called 'I can't sleep Mummy' and then when I soothed her, said she needed a pee...first time she's asked for the toilet in the night, which given she's rejecting the nappy is good news
An hour later she still couldn't sleep. Sent dh to look after her as so knackered, but she wanted Mummy of course so...lots of tears, then she came into our bed, lay still and got safe for an hour, then quietly agreed she'd sleep better in her own bed. Which she did with no fuss.
What a mix! Let her sleep late this morning, gone off to pre-school which is being great - they're really looking after her through this rocky bit. If I wasn't so tired, I'd be rather enjoying my little Threenager...but like Spina, I will not be carrying her as well as this vast Bump...

Bump, by the way, gave almighty kick and tried to turn in the night - did get her feet up - but head didn't go down far enough, so think she's bobbed back to tranny. Felt momentary enormous relief not to have her bum pressing into my side though. Suspect she didnt' want to be the only Tranny on the bb if Castles' has turned...

Off to hospital today for overhaul and verdict on bp and waiting, hopefully catch up later - have a good day everyone.

My bump is so low, at times it's like I have no bump at all and just a fat belly. I am sure bump tried to turn in the night too! Not good as am 37 weeks tomorrow and s/he has been head down and back to front for weeks (not that I am gloating )

Ahhh! Eli's bean trying to change position! Any chance she might manage it? Seems good that she's trying to.

Must try to do some OFP myself. Did a bit last pg, but wasn't putting in 15 minutes three times a day on all fours This bump is soooooo big and Bean isn't (as far as I know. M/W was that convincing as to which way he was lying so asking her his size was a bit pointless)She also thought I was 29 weeks cos she looked at the wrong month! (Explains her gasp when I walked in.HeHe!)Anyway I think Bean has loads of space to wriggle around still. Everyone thought I was going to produce a ten pounder last time and DS was 8 6(3.8 kg) Preception of bump size is based on the fact that beneath all (and I mean ALL) of this I have a size 8 frame with lots of padding

Sorry I've got verbal diarrhoea today haven't I?

Am I a terrible mum. I've taught DS how to turn onthe video and dvd player while I choose the correct channel on TV remote from comfort of sofa Surely a necessary skill for a three yr old when I'm breastfeeding?

Hi everyone, I've been off MN for a couple of days now. Work on Wed was a killer and it took me all day yesterday to recover.

Ds had his final singles jab yesterday. I soooo hate it when he has to get one. Not just the discomfort of it all for him, but then i tend to worry myself silly over side effects. Was going to sleep in his room tonight, but dh offered to instead.

Oh, and they came a week early to put the carpet in the nursery! I'm really looking forward to getting some things done in there this weekend. Meant to start yesterday but couldn't manage to do much more than lie around on the couch

btw, spina, I have taught ds to work the dvd player too!

Am also glad to notice I'm not the only one dribbling food down my front. It's terribly inconvenient when it has no chance at all to reach the napkin on my lap. What am I saying? Who has a lap anymore?

Morning ladies,

Well had a call from midwife to say despte being on Iron, my blood levels have dropped further They have tripled the dose!!!!! that mixed with co dydramol for SPD is giving me cronic constipation so have lactalose too.

Have had lots of period type pains and panicking I will go into labour, poor baby will be wanting to move down and placenta in his way
Have consultant next hursday and am going to beg him to do the secion at 37 weeks instead of 38, The spd is sooooo painful and knowing I have to have a section makes me want it RIGHT NOW INSTEAD OF WAITING FOR 3 MORE WEEKS!!!!!!!

But...... still have loads to do, I have dogs and cats so want to completely de fleathe place just to be on the safe side and put new curains up in my room and buy a moses basket stand and mattress and pj's for me and a nursing bra and Dh needs o finish he flooring in the downstairs loo and I have a mountain of Ironing!!!!!!!

Not much is there

Oh and dd4 has been able to work dvd player for months