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October 14. thread 11?! Will be see any babies in this thread?

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mrsb87 · 15/08/2014 07:52

Plonk your bums down ladies!

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FrauEnglischLehrerin · 25/08/2014 09:23

I've also got a touch of what I think is carpal tunnel, although it seems to come primarily when my hands get cold. It had better go away after the baby is here, as I need my fingers in top form as a classical musician if anyone ever offers me work that fits around two kids and dh's work hours .

It didn't occur to me to worry about the baby hiccuping, although I had a brief google-fuelled panic about the shivering thing. I think if anything this one is hiccuping less than dd did - she hiccuped loads as a baby too.

Is anyone using the Natal Hypnotherapy Cds for VBAC? I'd ordered the Mongan book, but got an empty envelope delivered today, so I'm waiting for a reply from the seller to see whether they offer to send another copy (was second-hand). I'd rather read a book than just listen to CDs, but would give it a go if any of you highly recommend it.

puppythedog · 25/08/2014 09:28

We're just about getting to the fed up stage here. Mrsthedog is struggling to sleep and feels constantly uncomfortable.

From my perspective I look forward to the pregnancy being over and us having our baby. I have not had any attachment to pregnancy/foetus most of the time. Naming the bump and having a personality for it has helped but still not really feelings.
The whole knowing my world will change and I will lose so much without any reassuring emotions about Schrödenberg is tough. If I could feel some of what mrsthedog does already I would be less worried.
I also want my wife back, at least in part Grin

puppythedog · 25/08/2014 09:29

Schrodenberg not whatever mumsnet thinks i put.

puppythedog · 25/08/2014 09:32

Oh and we're not having formula in the house so as not to be tempted. We really want to breast feed and hope to be relaxed about trying knowing we can access some good support through NCT, local bf group and our amazing friend. That said if it doesn't work we will not give ourselves a hard time ( hopefully)

mrsb87 · 25/08/2014 09:39

Ah yes that fed up stage is very familiar to me. Been that way for a few weeks. Thank goodness I can just be a miserable sod at home on my own now!
Last night was the first night I didn't get woken up by heartburn for a good while which was nice, and I only needed to pee once! Score!
Scan day today, fingers crossed for some answers!

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mum2kiss · 25/08/2014 09:44

Sympathy for those suffering with carpel tunnel! Sounds painful :(

My back hates me...It hurt most of yesterday and half the night! Hope this isn't for the next 7 weeks!

I explained to Dd that she wouldn't be able to come to the hospital and that a friend would pick her up for us if my mum is on hols. She's not keen! She wants either my mum ( will be on holiday a week before due date) or my sis who lives over 2hrs away!!! I don't want her to be upset by any of the experience so I guess I just have to keep my legs crossed until my mum gets back!

Happytimes31 · 25/08/2014 09:46

Hello ladies anyone else just not feeling 'in the mood' these days? My nether regions just don't seem that keen and therefore a bit sore despite some artificial help Smile. No pressure from OH but i think it is important to keep going because of the famine afterwards!

STIGZ · 25/08/2014 10:18

Thanks ladies on advice/reasurrance about baby hiccups.., cant actually beleive they have a negetive worry attached to them, i was shocked reading it as did not expect to read something so drastic... Will mention to midwife on friday.

Sorry to hear about carpal tunnel suffers! God if its not one thing its another!!

My OH said the other night that he cant wait to get the "old me" back ... He misses me & tbh i think he's feeling a bit guilty about the pain im going through from SPD ... Sex is non existant ... Its just too painful & i dont feel very attractive at the momment... I just dont feel like it at all ... Poor dp is loving the sight of my big boobs & cant get near them, he deffo is not put off by my extra curves but i just dont feel like myself at the momment and deffo getting that "fed up" feeling Hmm

mrsb87 · 25/08/2014 10:27

Hmm yea dtd isn't that great, we have on the wkend but I really wasn't feeling it. I want to but it just isn't fun for me at the moment. Dh is very patient with me bless him.

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mum2kiss · 25/08/2014 10:50

So I asked over on the fb page but wanted to ask here too. ..

Is anyone thinking about childcare yet? I've been to visit a local nursery and I've registered with the nusery at my offices. ..

ohthegoats · 25/08/2014 11:15

Hell yes, I want me back. We were talking last night about whether or not we could have another one (I know it's a bit early to say really!), but I don't think that at plus 40 I want to do pregnancy again. We'd have to do it quite quickly, and I'm not really prepared to do that after a year of injecting myself every day. Also we know we can afford to give just the one a nice life (in terms of one of us being off work/very part time for most of infanthood), but would struggle with two once any childcare costs are factored in. Boyfriend also said that he's not sure I should do pregnancy again either - partly because of all the drugs I've had to be on, but also because it's been a struggle with me not being me. And he's right. Instead we starting talking about spending a couple of years in France when it's 4 - 6, living in the mountains, outdoor life etc etc. Made me want to be pregnant even LESS.

Friend had twins yesterday - 6lb 4 and 6lb 6. Crikey... I'll be lucky if my ONE is that weight. Ha. No wonder she was uncomfortable.

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SlideIn · 25/08/2014 11:59

Thanks, finally came to bed around 5am & managed a couple of hrs propped up with loads of pillows.
Hadn't read the hiccups thing, glad of it! Did have a Twitterpal tell me the weirdest sensation she had was feeling the baby cry? Said it felt like a rhythmic mild vibration in her tummy. I did have something like this but assumed it was baby having a pee - mild vibration yes, but reminded me more of a water jet in a pool, like water moving against water. Anyone else?
DP & I DTD a few mornings ago after a few months drought (my lower back has been too painful); but I woke up with the horn for the first time in forever. Wasn't really working for him, though he was enthusiastic to begin with. He knows it will be a long time after birth before I'm fit, so the physical side of our relationship is now on hiatus I guess. Hmm

fedupofrainydays · 25/08/2014 12:10

On our way home today after a week away. Very nervous as to what state our house will be in. Bet they haven't done half of what we were hoping they would get through.
Ds has just done a wee in his car seat which is always nice.
Definitely at the fed up stage - have been for a while. Feel sick most of the time and tired and achy. One more week of work though! Just hoping we can b back in the house properly before DH goes to Canada Hmm and I'm not left finishing it all off on my own at 35/36 weeks preg.

fedupofrainydays · 25/08/2014 12:41

We haven't dtd since our wedding anniversary - 5 June! And after ds we didn't have sex for about 5 months as I was so scared about all the stitches and when we did try it hurt! So am expecting prob a 9 month sex drought in total. We can cope - did it before!

YellowWellies · 25/08/2014 13:05

On childcare thoughts, I'm actually just in the process of moving J from a nursery to a CM so that when I return to work after this one they can be looked after together rather than being in different nursery classes. This is very much my experience and there are some great nurseries out there and some poor ones, and conversely there are some poor childminders and some great ones - so this is just what I've experienced and shouldn't be seen as a generalisation!

I was very pro nursery when I had J but I've changed my mind since he started at nursery last November. Firstly, he's struggled to settle (he's still teary at drop off 9 months later, which just goes against all of your instincts - leaving your child crying and going to work is just horrible, he's a very cuddly boy but he's not shy by any means - he's actually really outgoing normally). Secondly, whenever I see nursery groups out and about in town (regardless of which nursery) I'm dismayed to see tots being lead silently by seemingly surly looking teenage girls who are busy texting on their phones and don't even seem to be trying to communicate with their little charges. Also they spend a lot of time in their home rooms which can be very small and if you have an adventurer - I think they can be unhappy being so couped up. I'm not impressed with the education of those looking after him - I know this makes me sound like an awful snob - but if you can't spell argh I don't want you trying to teach my son how to spell!!!

J is in the top rated nursery in town but I'm not impressed, they've messed up his diet so many times feeding him stuff he's allergic to (god forbid he had an anaphylatic reaction!), the staff are very young and there's huge churn and I'm increasingly unconvinced about formal age cohort nursery for some very little kids. I mean he's going to spend from 5-18 in formal age cohort organised education anyway, I'd really rather he was just playing and loved now in a home from home environment, rather than box ticking on a curriculum and 'learning plan'. Especially when you consider that those countries where formal education starts later have much higher educational outcomes.

We are half way through the settling in process and he seems to love the CM so much more - she's an older lady who's strict but very motherly and he's one of three she'll be looking after. He's not cried at drop off yet with her. But bundles in happily for a hug. I was initially wary of a CM because of child protection issues - as there's no one to watch over them day to day, but I think if you can find a CM who comes highly recommended - then that would be my personal preference. He knows every day who is going to be looking after him and he is forming a bond with her, we don't have local grandparents so its lovely he is essentially getting a surrogate one, she is a pro at dealing with allergies, she takes them out fruit picking, to the aquarium, to toddlers, bookbugs, the park - not just on random drags around town to tire them out before naptime (which seems to be what nurseries here do), she's looked after kids for 20 years and importantly, for me anyway, she has kids of her own. Once you've kids of your own I think most people become much more empathetic with children generally. Finally the behaviour of the kids in the care of the CM was much better than those in the nurseries we visited (and we visited every nursery in a 15 mile radius)!

I'm sure for some kids nursery is the better option but for us it seems to be a CM. This is very much just our personal experience, excuse the diatribe but it's a bit of a bugbear at the moment as I'm mid settling in process which is tough with a new job and all the blimmin diabetes appointments - I wish I'd known about this lady last year! Thankfully she will have a space for the baby when I go back to work next autumn and baby will be able to spend the next year slowly getting to know her as I'm going to send J for one day and 2 half days a week whilst on maternity, so hopefully it'll be easier. Oh and CM are usually cheaper too!

fedupofrainydays · 25/08/2014 13:30

Ds has been with a childminder for two years and it's been great for him. He's off to nursery next week though. Not FT though. I too think childminder (if you get right one) is a great option for younger kids. Ds at almost three is very ready for nursery and has loved his settling in seshes. I think I will do CM for baby no 2 as well and keep ds in nursery til school now. A faff taking to different places but I think ds needs to be with others his same age ahead of school.

STIGZ · 25/08/2014 14:17

fed up i agree with you regarding CM for younger children but see the benefits of sending your child to nursery for atleast year before school for a smooth transition & social & emotional development, i work in a local authority nursery so cant vouch for private nurseries on a work level or a personal level as my mum looks after DD when i am working, but i do know that the nursery enviroment is a great place to prepare children for school, my dd's social skills have came on leaps and bounds since starting at 3 and think its a great learning experience for them and also important that they socialise with children from similar but also diffrent backgrounds from their own on a daily basis.

ohthegoats · 25/08/2014 14:44

I haven't checked places out yet, mostly because I can't decide how much I'll go back to work. If it's 4 days, then I think we're after 3 days in a nursery, 1 day with a child minder (or a grandparent). If I go back 3 days then all three in a nursery. If boyfriend manages to change his job, then he'll do full time hours in 4 days, which means he gets to do 1 day at home, and I get 1 day at home. Still 3 days in nursery. That'll be from 8 months old.

fedupofrainydays · 25/08/2014 15:06

Oh help. Back at the house and still a building site. Just want to cry Sad

It's filthy. And no rooms are habitable. Why the fuck are we doing this now?????
Can't get anything ready as it's all packed in boxes and ds has just wondered into his rooms getting all upset where his trains have gone as room covered in black dust and green sheets.

Just feeling really :(

Me23 · 25/08/2014 15:33

Oh fedup how annoying! How you spoken to the builders? Any idea how long it will take to be habitable?

Re nursery vs cm yet another thing to be judged over and make parents feel guilty! Either is fine I've used both. There are good and bad of each. This baby will be going to Ds (soon to be) old nursery it is fantastic and they look after the children very well they are all qualified and no teens working there not that teens are bad.

I've had my hair done today total colour change. Needed something more manageable as will be a while until I can go again!

Also re hiccups they are normal baby gets them a bit.

gunwalloe · 25/08/2014 15:40

Ive got really annoying headaches they come on last 10 mins or so then go having them around 6 times a day the last few days no swelling going on any ideas?

Kirstipops · 25/08/2014 15:44

Has anyone from here sent me a friend request on FB? Initials are CS and from Manchester?
Haven't even thought about nurseries/childminders :O I was in nursery for a year before I started primary school and loved it (I even remember my first and last day of nursery but not my first day of school, bizarrely!) so I'd definitely like them to go there for a year before school anyway, I have a couple of old school friends who are childminders so if they weren't free then I'd hope they could recommend someone should I decide to go down that route too. Not sure how soon I'd need one though as hoping to be a SAHM for a couple of years at least and I'm already vaguely wondering about whether I'll have another baby too. Being pregnant just makes you nuts doesn't it....
I'm becoming fed up of feeling uncomfortable too, I'm only 35+2 and for some reason didn't think I'd feel like this until 38 weeks or something, hopefully when mat leave kicks in and I have more time to rest I'll start to feel a bit more human?? looks around the room at everyone hopefully

BingoBango85 · 25/08/2014 15:56

Fed up today. Don't want to go back to work tomorrow even if it is only for 3 weeks. Sick of harvest; now on week 9 with DP having not had a day off. I know things could be worse (a hubby in the military etc) but I've hit my limit today Hmm HmmHmm

YellowWellies · 25/08/2014 16:08

Totally agree with views that nursery will be an essential prep for school - J's CM does pick up and drop offs for the school nursery at which he has a free place for a couple of hours a day from aged 3, so he will be going to that. They're a brilliant way to settle kids into what will be their primary school, very gently.

As I said about the CM vs nursery debate that is just the view from a very small corner of Fife. I'm sure other areas may have much better nurseries but provision here really was quite disappointing in reality - despite the high OFSTED (well the Scottish Equivalent) ratings. I think it's an area where personal recommendations matter as much as formal ratings to be honest and it's a blimmin minefield. There's advantages and disadvantages to both but I've personally gone from a pro-nursery view to a pro-CM view. I know others that have gone the other way. Sometimes you just can't tell what will suit your little one until you try.