February 2014 - is there an octopus in there?

[LittlePandaBear]

Okay I don't like to run out of things, even threads, so here's the new one.

Can't remember who described their baby kicking like an octopus but it's very true :)

Thank you

lastnight I was very slightly sore after the flu jab, but had a raised bump, heat and pink (not angry, or red, just a little pink) skin for a couple of days after the whooping cough - I was in to see the GP the next day for something else and asked her to look at it, and she said that it looked like the nurse was a bit heavy handed, but it didn't look "wrong", so I'd definitely say get the whooping cough on your least-used arm. Nb, it's gone down now!

Lastnight I had them both at the same time, both arms were slightly sore in the day but by night time the flu arm didn't hurt at all. The wc hurt for a couple of days though so def get it in the arm you don't sleep on. It felt like someone had given me a good punch in that arm

Yep, WC more painful for me too. However, neither arm was too painful to use, but both arms were too painful to sleep on - not helpful when front and back are also off limits :) That was only really for the first night though.

Cubano I wouldn't worry about increased movements personally, though I know Bear posted on FB that you're meant to contact your MW about any changes in movements. My baby did get noticeably more active at 28 weeks, could be a third tri thing?!

I've got the opposite thing this morning, baby is being quieter than usual, but then she has been VERY busy for the past few days and I guess she needs her chilled out days too. I counted kicks this morning and got 10 in about 15 mins, so am sure that's okay... I do find the advice on this very confusing, I must say.

Report all changes in movement v. be aware that your baby, like you, has busy and less busy days
Count kicks v. don't count kicks

Gah. Worry wort rant over!

Marzi I think less than 10 in 2 hours is something to worry about so 10 in 15 mins should be fine!

I can't remember who asked about high kitchen cupboards... Am having opposite problem (all our cupboards are low to avoid too much climbing on chairs) but getting a roast out of the oven was a challenge yesterday. Am quite glad i've been barred from doing the Christmas lunch now!

Do you think the calcium benefits in gooey cheese outweigh the listeria risk?

Marzi 10 kicks in a regular 15 mins would be super active for me, esp in the morning! Just shpws how much we all do vary

I know you're both right! Though my mw said that she now advises not to count kicks as such but just to be aware of changes in your own baby. (Which I guess makes sense given the differences between Marzibean and Winterbean!) It wasn't so much the frequency that worried me as the intensity, if that makes sense... Anyhow, I am now baking the christmas cake and Not Worrying But thank you for reassuring a paranoid mess :)

Thanks all for the jab advice. I'm having them at 8.50 so hopefully the flu jab will be less sore by bed time!

Marzi I find it super confusing too. Like (it seems) most preg advice, it's muddled and vague!
FWIW, my bean seems to go through active phases where he'll kick a lot in a little while, then be quiet for a long time. He just did a small squirm. Do those count? Argh... easier to just be happy about the kicks I do get! My bump has really grown the last week, and that's coincided with him being quiet. I wonder if they're quiet while they're growing more?

Mines really sporadic too - she has busy days and quiet days. I actually got a rib kick last night which was odd! Mostly I just feel wriggling though.

I sound like a right knob tho - when she's not done anything for a bit I start talking to my belly going "hello baby - BABY!!! Hello!!!" She does often start doing something but I don't half sound silly!

For those having the whooping cough jab, what stage are you supposed to have it? I've got to book it at the Doctors (rather than the midwife) but next appt withher isn't till 20th December when I will be 32+1, is that too late? Was supposed to see her at 30 weeks but she's on holiday for 2 weeks and full before then!

Unplastered - the nurse recommended I wait until 34 weeks as that's when it'll confer the best protection to the baby. Midwife then confirmed this.

Its so weird how they vary it. I am 32 weeks on Wednesday and my midwife told me it is essential that I have it before 33 weeks. In fact, here - after 32 weeks they refuse to give it to you!

Amazon have started their Black Friday deals and there looks to be some very good ones in the Baby dept. There is a video baby monitor starting at 4.30pm today for example.

WC jab wise, my mw also said I had to have it by 32 weeks. I'm meant to be having it tomorrow but given I have a throat infection, might delay it a week.

I'm sure they can't refuse it after 32 weeks when it says on NHS websites and leaflets etc 28-38 weeks for WC jab?

www.nhs.uk/conditions/pregnancy-and-baby/pages/whooping-cough-vaccination-pregnant.aspx

Haha misskatamari I do that and also a little wriggle myself to try and shift/wake her. People around me must think I'm crazy.

notone I have been told the same. Basically it takes two weeks for your antibodies to reach max levels so you want it at least two weeks before giving birth. I was planning on having it around 33 wks if I do go for it. But it shows total incploherency in the nhs. For eg I found out someone I know gets 33wk growth scan as standard, I'm currently in the area next door and wouldn't have beem offered it

Yep there's just no cohesiveness is there. My midwife was very clear that if I didn't have it before the end of this week that I wouldn't be allowed it.

lastnight I had my whooping cough today at 10 and my arm is already killing!! Jag itself didn't hurt atall though where as flu jag was more sore actually having done but took till the next day for me to have a dead arm. The joys xx

Had my 28 week mw appt today and mw said whooping cough jab ok anytime between 28 and 32 weeks. Mine is booked for when I'm 30 weeks. Heard baby's heartbeat for first time since 20 weeks - nice and healthy and appears she's still breech! Got my first extra growth scan tomorrow so get to see her again.

Lastnight - if be intrigued to know on what grounds she would refuse to give the vaccine after that time, given that it contradicts what the NHS says? Would the GP surgery do the same? I know some things vary between primary care trusts in terms of recommendations, but to outright deny someone a vaccine in contradiction of the literature seems a bit rum! I adore our NHS but things like that just make me so cross. As winterflowers says, the optimum is 2 weeks before birth for "maximal antibody levels in the pregnant woman and the period of transplacental antibody transfer". They say you can have it from 28 weeks though as obviously some women will be premature (and it's still effective from then, just not as effective as it could be). This is why my midwife and nurse both said 34 weeks, as their reasoning was as close to birth as possible but without leaving it so late as to be too risky and miss the boat! (As 38 week might be!).

It's the gp surgery that refuses to do it after 32 weeks. Midwife said (obviously wrong) that it needs at least that amount of time for the antibodies to develop.

It's obviously wrong, everywhere online says otherwise so.... Typical nhs really

Cor it's a worry eh?!

I'm sure I read that 28-32 was optimal as the placenta is working at its optimal level by that time and it gives enough time for antibodies to develop. I had mine at exactly 28 weeks and moaned for at least a week later about sore arms. I, stupidly, had the flu in one and the WC in the other.
I am so breathless today. I suppose it doesn't help being short really but I wasn't exprcting to feel so squished this early on. Baby has been kicking my rib quite a bit. Decided to count calories to slow the weight gain and to see if it helps with breathing.
I started washing some baby clothes and nappies today so they are ready to be used. This is getting very real now. Can't believe how many 0-6 months clothes we have and I haven't bought any of it. They are all gifts. I prefer older baby & toddler clothes like cute dungarees and little shoes so all my purchases are 6-9 months and up.