Sloths, slugs and heffalump bumps-july13

[princessllama]

Hope this works

Sunshine - I'm now in leggings under dresses - much warmer and more comfy. Someone on laser thread suggested a website where you can put in existing children's names and it generates suggested names to go with them - can't remember the name of the website though but may be worth a google search for it. Aldi nappies are meant to be quite good - will give them a go once the umbilicus is healed.

Cheese, sorry to hear that but maybe you'll feel better once you look round. I had to request we saw the consultant bit on our tour as was only high risk person there. Was worried it would just make me more anxious as the midwife bit is brand new and v luxurious and consultant bit v old and dated. However it wasn't half as bad as I expected with huge en suite rooms and loads of room for active equipment, which they can move from the midwife bit of it's not being used. Was also reassuring to hear how much they promote active labour wherever you are.

Hope to hear good news soon Princess! I'm feeling much better about everything following my Facebook rant last week after I managed to speak to midwife supervisor. She was so lovely and helpful.

Anyone else feel partly so impatient they could burst and partly sad pregnancy is coming to an end??

had a long post written on my phone and it disappeared

cheekbyjowl - dc1 was a vb and dc2 was an ELCS as she was footliong breech so this time i was offered the choice of either a VBAC or ELCS. i said i would decide at a later date (ie this week) as both my DCs were breech, except DC1 did manage to turn late in pregnancy, at the moment however, this baby is also breech and so if it remains so the decision will be made for me effectively as 1. they wont allow a breech VBAC (nor would i want to attempt it after the damage my VB caused) and 2. they wont attempt to turn using ECV because of the risk of rupture from the previous ELCS. an ELCS wouldnt be my ideal way of giving birth but its the one situation i have very little control over .

you still have lots of time though for your baby to turn. i tried lots with DC2 but to no avail though she dd have one leg fully extended and wedged in my pelvis. i used positioning - all fours, being upside down, moxibustion and as a last resort ECV. you really need to research and find out success rates of your consultant and hospital before deciding for yourself. it didnt work for me, and was far more painful than labour/birth and the subsequent CS. but thats just me, it has worked for some and had horrible oucomes for others. but do bear in mind that you take in all of your stuff in case you need an EMCS - which is rare.

sundaysunshine i love your DDs name its the only name i have on my girls list at the moment.

waves to photographer have you been to look around the hospital yet? wondered what the PN ward is like now its moved? might get to look after my scan and appointment on friday.

right off now to put my sling together if i can remember how!

BB01 me too - i have always felt sad as the pregnancy comes near the end, even more so this time (last time for me). but in a way i will be glad to get him/her here safely and to stop my hips and back aching so much.

and we do have all those lovely newborn snuggles to look forward to then the toddler tantrums and stroppinessbut that might just be my DCs

BB01 - I love being pregnant as I've been incredibly lucky to have straightforward pregnancies and will miss feeling the baby moving inside of me, so I'm coming towards the end of this pregnancy, knowing it will be my last, with sadness rather than impatience for it to end. Though first time round, with Ds1, I couldnt wait for him to arrive so know how you're feeling!

I'm really going to miss being pregnant. I love feeling the baby move. I couldn't wait to get pregnant again after DD, but it took over 18 months for it to finally happen.

Good luck for today Princess.
With so many babies making an early entry maybe we should think about a birthday list?

I think names are really difficult. We know we're having a girl, and think we have it down to two names but keep changing our minds. It just feels a lot of responsibility!

sunday I've heard the aldi nappies are really good, I was planning on getting some to try, and have a small pack of pampers too.

I'm on my phone and have forgotten everything else I wanted to write, I'll have to come back to it later!

I also didn't think there would have been much chat in the hour since I last updated so didn't refresh and with most of you!

I do like feeling the baby move, but can't wait for the pregnancy to be over otherwise, I've found it much harder than I expected. It's worth it for the baby at the end, but that's about it as far as I'm concerned! Doesn't mean I wouldn't do it again though, although I've not done the labour bit yet I would love a sibling for chip eventually

cheese I think the labour wards aren't as bad as you fear. Where I am there's no midwife led unit, and I wouldn't want a homebirth myself, so my options were pretty limited. The labour Ward is quite alright though, and if all is well the midwives do their best to keep it as non medical as possible. Having a look around if you can might make you feel less nervous?

cheek I was initially pretty anti about EVC but did some reading and decided I would go for it because 1. local obstetrician is a guru at turning babies, so that's luck of the draw 2. I would insist that they tell me the chances when they did the presentation scan and only go ahead if they really thought it was worth it 3. could not bear thought of having to be on high alert to rush into hospital for emergency c-sec if I went into labour (and he was still breech.)

Actually as it happens we had a scare last week, went into hospital and they scanned me, and he is head down. Hope you have good result too. Good luck.

I know I'm going against the grain here, but I would much prefer to be on the labour ward. The rooms are much bigger, there's room to walk around, bounce on a ball etc, and have en suit bathrooms. The MLU reminds me too much of Travel Lodge rooms and it really puts me off! But as I've had no issues during this pregnancy it's off to the MLU for me; poor NHS can't please anyone!

I'm sad about pregnancy coming to an end too. It's such a special time, and we are so so lucky (IMHO) to be able to experience it. Last time for me too so makes it even more sad. Having said that I would be glad to see the back of the delightful side effects - the piles, the acid reflux, the night time wees, the back ache etc etc, but these really are small potatos when compared to the end result

Clearly each hospital is different. I went to the mandatory birth prep class at the MLU last night for everyone hoping to give birth there - me, another 3rd time round mum, 2 2nd time round mums and 4 first timers (the first timers had all brought their partners with them) - and we were in the room where I had ds2, which felt very weird indeed. The rooms there are bigger, but purely because its a newer build than the labour ward rooms. Amused me rather that one of the first timer dads to be couldnt be less bothered - he was dozing or looking at his phone while the MW was explaining about the stages of labour. Clearly just like one of those idiot dads that people say they see on One Born Every Minute!

Growth scan today and junior is head down and looking good. Estimated weight of about 2.7kg today which is around 5lb 12oz... I can't believe how big everything looks on scan compared to the teeny tiny rice grain with a heartbeat back in November!

Cheese I would echo others who have said that labour ward isn't such a negative thing. And if the only reason you have to be there is for the GBS antibiotics, hopefully they can make it as non-medicalised and intervention-free as possible for you.

I am torn between looking forward to not being pregnant (Soft cheese! Gin! Cured meat!) and being terrified that the pregnancy has to end - because that means facing up the the facts that (1) I have to give birth and (2) perhaps more terrifyingly I will be responsible for looking after an entirely new human being .

35+5 and off to bury my head in the sand some more...

Just popping in to say a quick hello and congratulations to all the new arrivals!! Sorry I have been AWOL for so long.

Good luck princess for the induction. I'm also waiting to find out if my cholestasis from last time around will return...

33+4

Maybe you should change your name to SlouchingOstrich Hope your last week at work is going well. I'm having lots of fun today reminding my bosses I'm off from Friday and seeing the looks of panic cross their faces....

Wonder if the royal baby llama is here now...

have imported the runners and riders (or waddlers and riders) back to the thread (including those disqualified for premature starts )

Due date list:

CottonSocks - 24th June
Sundaysunshine - dc2 (boy!) - 28th June
Skelosia - DC2 - 1st July
QuinandThem - 1st July
Badgerwife - DC2 - 1st July
Cutandstick - 2nd July
Runswithsquirrels - 2nd July
Thinkingof4- DC4 -2nd July
VinegarDrinker - DC2 - 2nd July
Persuasion - DC1 - 3rd July
esme80 - 3rd july
Glup - 3rd July
shelley72 - 3rd July
BB01 - 4th July
Dinkystinky - DC3 - 4th July
wifey6 - 5th July
Notprincesskate - DC2 - 5 July
OhGood - 5th July
PenguinsInThePantry - 5th July
marmitemad DC2 - 6th July
Gingerpanther27 - 7th July
DifferentNow - DC5 - 7th July
Abzs - DC1 - 7th July
Efme - 8th July
GeorgieWilson - 9th July
Devilforasideboard - 10th July
CitizenOscar - DC2 - 10th July
TwoOfThree - DC1 - 10th July
Chinainthegarden - DC1 - 10 July
Bigbelly4 - DC4 - 10 July
Calmisthemantra - 11th July
Specialknickers - 11th July
MrsMillions - DC1 - 11th July
Cheekbyjowl - DC1 - 11th July
Beginningofthejourney - DC1 11th July
Trustissues75 - DC2 - 11th July
mysterymeg - 12th July
Reikimummy - 12th July (DC1)
SlouchingPanda - 12th July
Thundercatz - 12th July
Twirliedobbit - DC4 - 12th July
Hai1988 - 12th July - DC2 - Girl!
LittleFlower888 - 14th July
Tashtastic - 14th July
Beaditsback - dc2 14th July
Mizar - 15th July
photographerlady - 15th July
Guavasforbreakfast - DC1 - 16th July
iniPenguinMaker - DC1 - 17th July
Boostar - 18th July - DC2
MrsWildermac - 18th July
TotallyEggFlipped - 18th July
SingingMomma - 18th July
MummyKanny - 18th July
GingerJulep - DC1 - 19th July
Niktasha - 19th July
whitedaffodil - 19th July
Grannyapple DC2 - 19th July
Thinking positive thoughts - 20th July
Cheeseandbread - DC1 - 20th July PhieEl06 - DC1 - 20th July
AmaDablam - DC1 - 21st July
Lancslass83 -dc1- 21st July
butterflyexperience - 22nd July
BadMissM- DC2- 22nd July
AllYoursBabooshka - 22nd July
Orangebubbles - DC2 - 22nd July
Isitme1 - 23rd July
MightBeMad - 23rd July
Supershiv1 - DC1 - 23rd July
Cantreachmytoes - 24th July
MrsRoss26 - 24th July
Camb79 - 25th July
Sashabella0 - 25th July
Schrosawmargerydaw - 26th July
BoyMeetsWorld - 27th July
marimba - 27th July
JessicaMLH - DC2 - 27th July
Lizincornwall - 27th July
LorrieJ- 27 July
Silver15 - DC3 - 28th July
Flyingsprocket - 29th July
Trickybarmby - 31st July

Early Arrivals!

SuperShiv - Oliver, the little fighter
Emblosion - Oisin
Elliejitny - Ezekiel
Paolocee/Donna - the two Ronettes
Princessllama - ?

just updating the Ronnettes name

Due date list:

CottonSocks - 24th June
Sundaysunshine - dc2 (boy!) - 28th June
Skelosia - DC2 - 1st July
QuinandThem - 1st July
Badgerwife - DC2 - 1st July
Cutandstick - 2nd July
Runswithsquirrels - 2nd July
Thinkingof4- DC4 -2nd July
VinegarDrinker - DC2 - 2nd July
Persuasion - DC1 - 3rd July
esme80 - 3rd july
Glup - 3rd July
shelley72 - 3rd July
BB01 - 4th July
Dinkystinky - DC3 - 4th July
wifey6 - 5th July
Notprincesskate - DC2 - 5 July
OhGood - 5th July
PenguinsInThePantry - 5th July
marmitemad DC2 - 6th July
Gingerpanther27 - 7th July
DifferentNow - DC5 - 7th July
Abzs - DC1 - 7th July
Efme - 8th July
GeorgieWilson - 9th July
Devilforasideboard - 10th July
CitizenOscar - DC2 - 10th July
TwoOfThree - DC1 - 10th July
Chinainthegarden - DC1 - 10 July
Bigbelly4 - DC4 - 10 July
Calmisthemantra - 11th July
Specialknickers - 11th July
MrsMillions - DC1 - 11th July
Cheekbyjowl - DC1 - 11th July
Beginningofthejourney - DC1 11th July
Trustissues75 - DC2 - 11th July
mysterymeg - 12th July
Reikimummy - 12th July (DC1)
SlouchingPanda - 12th July
Thundercatz - 12th July
Twirliedobbit - DC4 - 12th July
Hai1988 - 12th July - DC2 - Girl!
LittleFlower888 - 14th July
Tashtastic - 14th July
Beaditsback - dc2 14th July
Mizar - 15th July
photographerlady - 15th July
Guavasforbreakfast - DC1 - 16th July
iniPenguinMaker - DC1 - 17th July
Boostar - 18th July - DC2
MrsWildermac - 18th July
TotallyEggFlipped - 18th July
SingingMomma - 18th July
MummyKanny - 18th July
GingerJulep - DC1 - 19th July
Niktasha - 19th July
whitedaffodil - 19th July
Grannyapple DC2 - 19th July
Thinking positive thoughts - 20th July
Cheeseandbread - DC1 - 20th July PhieEl06 - DC1 - 20th July
AmaDablam - DC1 - 21st July
Lancslass83 -dc1- 21st July
butterflyexperience - 22nd July
BadMissM- DC2- 22nd July
AllYoursBabooshka - 22nd July
Orangebubbles - DC2 - 22nd July
Isitme1 - 23rd July
MightBeMad - 23rd July
Supershiv1 - DC1 - 23rd July
Cantreachmytoes - 24th July
MrsRoss26 - 24th July
Camb79 - 25th July
Sashabella0 - 25th July
Schrosawmargerydaw - 26th July
BoyMeetsWorld - 27th July
marimba - 27th July
JessicaMLH - DC2 - 27th July
Lizincornwall - 27th July
LorrieJ- 27 July
Silver15 - DC3 - 28th July
Flyingsprocket - 29th July
Trickybarmby - 31st July

Early Arrivals!

SuperShiv - Oliver, the little fighter
Emblosion - Oisin
Elliejitny - Ezekiel
Paolocee/Donna - Leila Poppy and Caitlin Liv
Princessllama - ?

Good Luck Princess :)

Dinky

Baby is a bit back to back so have been banned from any form of slouching at all - I am informed it's best if I send the rest of my pregnancy on my hands and knees. So maybe just Ostrich!

Good luck Princess Llama

shelley delivery suite still being revamped apparently. They asked me to call back next week. I am hoping to get a tour in before July but we will see :)

Just to reiterate what others have said - it really doesn't have to be CLU/delivery suite = masses of intervention. If there isn't a birth ball obviously on display - ask! All you need for an active birth is you and a midwife (and a supportive birth partner helps loads), even if you need continuous monitoring (eg if you are induced, have meconium etc) you don't have to be on your back in bed by any means.

37 weeks today - officially term

vinegar very well said and congrats on 37 weeks :)

That's the condensed version of my longer rant dinky! I get annoyed both at the lack of investment in CLUs (both in terms of equipment like wireless CTGs, and things like en suites, big rooms, TVs, a lick of paint etc) and also the lazy stereotyping that CLU = BAD - seen on MN as much as anywhere else. I passionately believe that just because a woman "has" to be on the CLU shouldn't mean forgetting all the home-from-home stuff that is often so appreciated. And don't get me started on partners being allowed to stay overnight on MLUs but not CLUs

Oooh sorry photographer

vinegar if you cant have a rant on here, then where can you? :) I'm glad nobody asked me about MLU or CLU or anything like that. I just got offered local hosp labour ward, or home. I chose the labour ward and nothing more was said, but I'm terrible at decisions really so probably best that I didn't get a choice! :)