July 2013 - thread 7 - and we're still talking as we enter the 3rd trimester

[Persuasion]

We've managed to fill yet another thread, so here is a new one to keep chatting away on...

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Silverbirdie - each birth is different, each person is different. Its nothing to do with you having a particular birth in you - baby often has different ideas to you do about how and when to come. If I were you, I'd really press for a consultant appointment and call their secretary before to ensure they have the notes they need too. I'm sorry your hospital have been rubbish so far - hopefully they'll surprise you by being excellent on d day!

Re expressing - DS1 took a bottle when small then turned into bottle refusnik from 2 months: I persevered with trying him on bottle for another 2 months but it just got us both pissed off (and the expressing was a hassle), so gave up and did bottle battle at 6 months before I went to work: at which point he took a bottle or bf happily and all was fine. DS2 refused to go near a bottle at all from day one - at 6 months did bottle battle (he is a very stubborn baby) and he eventually succumbed - but I was quite glad I didnt spend 4 months expressing milk for him to be wasted...

Princessllama - that woman sounds really unpleasant! I always get twin comments/queries - though it amused me today that one of our receptionists only just realised I'm pregnant. She must have thought I'd been eating all the pies in the world till today!

I know dinky I think really I'm terrified of feeling so rotten like I did for so long after Ds. I think I was actually a bit traumatised but have such a great Dh, it never got the better of me. I do remember nightmares about the silverfish on the scummy bathroom floor where I was vomming before being rushed down two floors to delivery grrrrrrrrrrrr
Also, bfing was a nightmare and I think it was a combination of my physical state, him having bottles In scbu and then neck stiffness resulting in months of treatment for Plagiocephaly.
I have heard so many positive birth stories recently and I'm determined to be one of them this time
Anyone know how close to due date you can wait until deciding on an elcs?

Ah Silverbirdie - I had a rubbish first birth experience with DS1 - I did hypnobirthing to stop the ghosts of it colouring my experience with ds2 and had a really positive birth with DS2. Dont let past experiences colour this birth for you x

PS First timers, for the record I do know first timers who had great births too - don't let us second time plus people scare you: its not the intent!

Tiredness is really setting in for a lot of us then! I've been getting very tired in the afternoons recently, but nothing on what a lot of you are describing. I hope you're all trying to take it easier? I managed to scare myself by slipping on the back door step this evening, almost going flying. Grabbing the handle saved me from crashing through the fence to next door's garden! Lesson learned, when tired, stop!

Just a quick check-in, sorry, as now exhausted. But sending sleepy thoughts to all you insomniacs

Slouching sounds like you are ready to start maternity leave, don't feel guilty, or feel like you need an 'excuse', you're pregnant with only a matter of weeks to go and have a tough and stressful job, that's reason enough surely?

Dinky glad you've come to a decision about schools, that must be a weight off your mind. Thanks for the Oliver update too, he really is an amazing little boy.

I had a meeting with someone the other day who was very complimentary about the way I looked, 'pregnancy really agrees with you' type thing; then without missing a beat said ' yeah because the last time I saw you you'd just had a miscarriage and that must have really taken it out of you but you look great now' !!!! what the f**k!

I do actually feel really good at the moment, at last, but I have a very easy desk job and a very calm and easy commute which helps enormously I'm sure. I'm starting to feel a bit sad that this will be my last pregnancy. I really miss my bump post birth, sounds crazy I know as I'll have a lovely new baby to cherish.

I never sleep well anyway, and wake up at least once an hour, but I find as long as I don't stress about it and relax I'm generally ok. Probably easier said than done, but I have had years of experience!

Sorry for not more name checks, I'm on phone as normal, but hope everyone is ok and looking forward to the weekend.

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at that comment Sunday!

I missed my bump as soon as it was gone too. I desperately wanted to get pregnant again as soon as possible.

Dinky well done on making a decision. Bet you feel relieved!

Slouching when were you due to finish work? Can you possibly finish early? Your health and baby's health is what's most important.

Had our NCT bf class last night and facilitator was pretty laid back about expressing. She certainly didn't seem to dwell on the negatives of it but maybe she was being tactful as most the class said they wanted to share the feeding. I have bought a cheap pump from NCT sale but since then decided not to buy the new attachments etc it needs or any bottles etc until I feel I definitely want to give it a go. Guess you need to weigh up the convenience and break you get against the added hassle of bottles etc and the fact it can be tricky for some people? Think some people I speak to don't like it as it's making something that should be natural and straightforward into something more complicated but then for others it's a necessity and gives them a well earned break!

slouching sorry youre feeling so exhausted. perhaps youll get a little burst of energy once youve rested. but if not maybe see if you can stop a bit sooner-if finances allow

bb glad your work.gave you the time you need off. Enjoy it.

dinky good news on schools. if youre keen on keeping them close to local friends too perhaps there are local music groups or judo classes etc they can join

can I just say I hate pregnancy hormones. I think im growing an extra head, it has the grumps of victor meldrew, the emotional resilience of a toddler and the tongue of anne robinson really im a joy to behold at the moment.

Cheek your summary of pregnancy hormones is spot on! I feel like an amalgamation of most of the 7 dwarves (Grumpy, Sleepy, Dopey, Sneezey, occasionally Happy... and Doc!). My eyes hurt today from yesterday's weep-fest.

Thank you all for your concern and kind words. I am supposed to be working until 37+1 (June 21st - six weeks today). There is the possibility of going earlier, and I am thinking seriously about it. I just find it hard, because I enjoy my job and feel guilty when I'm not there, like today but the tough days are not compatible with being pregnant, and I know I have to prioritise my health and my pregnancy.

Sunday I am shocked at the insensitivity of some people! Either say something nice (then SHUT UP!) or don't say anything at all. Gah!

Right - I am going to make some brownies for my NCT session tomorrow. These pregnant women need sustinence!

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Slouching - I'll join you on the exhaustion couch today (no need to budge over, I'll just collapse on top of you). Have been awake since 3.30 and am shattered.

Cheek - just keep reminding yourself (and more importantly your DH) that is just hormones and will pass. On the plus side, those crazy hormones make your hair look good DS1 does karate, drama and beavers locally and DS2 does hip pop (which he loves) and football (which he ocassionally likes) locally so will try to keep those up - but one of the various things going through my head while I was awake this morning was finances, logistics and where we need to cut back.... Ugh.

Aah everyone has been so busy posting i cant keep up! Haha everyone seems to be getting quite tired now? Im having quite a good week for energy but ive been very good and not doing too much so i think thats helping. My OH had an op on his toe on Wednesday so he's hobbling around and isnt allowed to do a lot of things which leaves it all too me, but luckily my mum is helping out otherwise i think i would be really tired!!
On a more cheerful note weve just booked a holiday to a Hoburne park in two weeks time! I know the area quite well so was trying to explain where the hospital is to my OH just in case! Think ill take babys hospital bag and hospital notes, everything else will be relatively easy to get and ill have most clothes with me! Haha
Hoping everyone starts getting a bit more energy soon!
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Slouching - am joining you in the sobfest zone today. Exhausted from v little sleep and have been sobbing my eyes out all evening as DS1 got his second red card in two weeks (having only got one in the past 4 years) for ignoring his teacher again and talking over her again in class repeatedly (despite DH and I giving him a talking to last week and no TV and no Wii and no toys to school for playtime and no play dates for the last week being imposed as consequences for the bad behaviour - and extra reading time in bed after bedtime stories being offered as incentives for good listening and good behaviour on a daily basis) - and his teacher caught him playing in class with toys he'd smuggled into school despite the toy ban and all this on the day they had the HmI inspectors in! I'm so fed up with this.

Oh dinky that must be very frustrating. I hope you've had a good nights sleep.

I was exhausted after work yesterday. Found the afternoon pretty tough going. Ended up going to bed at 9pm (Friday night - such a party animal!)

Only 6 more weeks left to work

Dinky there must be a reason DS1 is doing this. Has he picked up on the school moving tension? Does he think if he misbehaves he won't be 'good enough' to move to a new school? Is he bored in class? Is another child giving him problems?

Hi ladies, have been well for a while as just didn't have time to keep up.
Two weeks left at work, so hope you don't mind if I jump back on board.
Have some reading to do. Hope you are all well :)

Well meaning awol...

dinky that must be frustrating im guessing youve asked him if everything is okay? Its probably just a phase and im sure things will start looking up again soon x

slouching the tiredness* is unbelievable isn't it! I'm wiped out at the moment, despite having a 'normal' pregnancy. I've been in tears several times this week and it's all linked to being exhausted. I'm seriously thinking about finishing a bit earlier. My last day is 36+3 but i can't see how i can manage that at the moment. It's partly psychological for me just now, not helped by work being extra busy. I'm away from home for almost 12 hours, and the 10 or 11 hours at work are non stop. Thing is, like you I really love my work so I don't really know what to do.

dinky v frustrating about ds, I would definitely be upset by that too

shiv hope Oliver is having a better day

silver hope you manage to come to a decision soon

icing must be nice to have a holiday to look forward to

Can't do any more name checks as on my phone again
Chucking it down with rain here, nothing like last weekend
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Thought id update you all on my latest discovery, ive been getting a tight sicky burny feeling in my throat.. Didnt realise it was heartburn! Got it really bad last night and my mum finally said 'you know its just heartburn' so a couple of rennies later i was feeling SO much better!

Icing hope the heartburn leaves you alone for a bit now! first time I had heartburn I thought my throat and chest had set on fire! It is nasty but seems to be relatively easy to treat thank goodness.

Aw Dinky what a shame. That sounds upsetting and must be a bit [shock if it's out of character. Hopefully it's just a passing phase whatever's causing it.

Dinky sorry your DS is playing up. Kids pick up on the smallest of things, maybe something is on his mind - you never know he might be feeling apprehensive about the new babe on the way? Anyway, I hope he settles down soon.

Welcome back cotton glad everything is still ok with you.

I've got 9 days of work left spread over 4 weeks. Can't wait to stop now.

Turns out a sobfest is a good way to ensure a good nights sleep! DS1 claims he doesn't know why he did it - he claims he was talking to no one but excited about whatever he was talking about and he took the toys to school but didn't know why. I have asked his teacher (on Friday before all this happened) for a meeting so hopefully between us we can get to the bottom of it and figure out an action plan to go forwards with. Runs he knows he is moving school (DS2 doesn't know yet) and the only things he seems sad about are leaving his friends and the playgrounds, rather than the school itself if you see what I mean (as there seem to be a couple of bullies in his class and one child who seems to require that everyone except ds1 play in his games at break time) - and yes excited about the baby because it means I will be home for 6 months so he'll see more of me (he remembers this from when I had ds2). Still, all in all, super frustrating - but am at least less emotional about it all today.

In other news, Bean appears to like Psy like his/her brothers as was bopping away to his latest song while ds2 was at dance class today.

Aw, bless him Dinky.

Right - all baby stuff out of the loft, baby area cleaned hoovered dusted and aired and this baby is going to be sorted for clothes, toys and books for ages! Even discovered two bouncers I thought I'd given away ages ago. DS2 had great fun perusing the baby toys and has demanded that he help DH assemble the cot tomorrow.