March 2013 VIII: feeling kicks, comparing knits and halfway there

[theTramp]

Old thread www.mumsnet.com/Talk/antenatal_clubs/1588951-March-2013-VII-Our-little-pumpkins-are-getting-fatter?msgid=35174657#thread

ps: we also have the angelcare sensor mat for when they are tiny but it isn't the one attached to the monitor. I find it very reassuring.

Three well done, as I said it might get worse but it will be worth it

Lol pink we changed our cavalier to an Audi A4 and we were glad to see the back of it

Right sitting in car park better go for app

Thanks guys, sorry for the long me/rant post before there too!

zoey so I'm buying a bed off of someone whose moving abroad so I'll have it in two weeks. Maybe do mattress till then. gummi, lexi and pink think will be able to grit my teeth and manage with dd, but what about my man-baby dh?? I'm thinking of advising him to stay at a friend's tonight!

em I love looking at dd baby photos, am yet to complete her 'baby's first year' album though even, well done!

So hope you're builders make it pink is rubbish to just want your house back to normal and to be able to tidy up and live!

Sorry to hear about migranes tramp hope accupuncture helps.

Afternoon all!

Either I'm finally properly getting over my epic cold or the thyroid tablets I started last week are starting to kick in because I've regained a bit of focus and energy with my work. Really had my head down these past two days. Giving a presentation on the database I've built in 10 days ? all well and good, except for the fact that the 400 sample records all need work. Finally kicked myself up the bum and doing something about it!

Also started to talk to HR about maternity leave now my research council have approved a 9 month extension to project. It's a bit ridiculous: they advise that I go on leave early in December to use up my 37 days holiday (ridiculous amount, I know) before mat. leave starts ? erm?! No, I don't think so! I'm going to apply to carry over three weeks to the following year, take a couple of weeks over xmas and before mat. leave. But in reality I'll work through that time if I need to and feel like it!

Babies have been extremely active. Really making me jump and gasp at points! And I don't know if I've mentioned this but I can feel them moving against what I think are my internal organs now. SUCH a strange sensation!

I've now started the Mindfulness Birthing book bought it on an Amazon-whim and I'm delighted to find that the author trained with Jon Kabat-Zinn, the guy whose audio recordings I've used a lot in the past (and who is utterly, utterly awesome). He even writes a Preface in the book, so I feel completely at home. I think it's going to be useful whether I give birth vaginally or CS, and in the unknown wilderness that is Life Afterwards!!

Oh, and I was going to run something by you all. A few times I've woken up feeling pins and needles in my hands. I've noticed that it's when I've been lying on my left side. My theory is that with the last low BP reading (something like 100/60) my heart is struggling to pump the blood round when I squash it by lying on it?! Or is this rubbish?

Lanny sounds like great progress! Yes, decorating frenzy here too I'm so excited about moving upstairs now. First I've got to rearrange the books and papers and filing cabinets in my study so I can accommodate DH, his various computers and two bookshelves (yikes), then - like you - we can make a start on the nursery! Can not wait!

Em I grew up in a house with carpet in the bathroom and the kitchen and I can confirm that it is something you come to realise is Not Right At All!!

Lexi sounds like you're doing really well on the baby-stuff acquiring! I'm not even thinking about buying anything yet - I want the decorating finished first as we've nowhere even to store the stuff people have given us!

Stealth sorry to hear about all the sickness!

October walk sounds just lovely!

Pink all the upheaval will be worth it in the end - hang on in there!

Three that all sounds difficult, but I agree you need to take control of the situation especially before new baby arrives. Not that I have any experience of these things!

Hermione, I apologise on behalf of rude academics!!! To his ''well that's just not good enough is it?' I hope next time you will say, 'Well, neither is your rudeness'. I think your boss needs to promote you - sounds like you are more than capable of bigger challenges if you keep running out of work, hehe! Or, maybe you need his job!

manda The numb hands thing has been happening to me for a long time, before being pg and worse now I am. It is most probably carpal tunnel which can be another lovely symptom of pregnancy. My midwife said sleeping with wrists in splints helps if it starts to hurt. Don't think it's anything to do with blood pressure but mention it if you are worried.

Today I have had my first real bout of motherly guilt. I have filled in the nursery application and put it in an envelope with the admin fee to send off. She isn't even born yet and I feel like I'm sending her away. Is this normal? I read the ofsted report for the nursery and feel a bit better but I can't quite shake the feeling of guilt :(

Sorry to not talk to everyone, will catch up later.

That would be ages manda! I wouldn't like so long a stretch either. You are such an active person you might end up feeling rather bored. With twins though, what have they said about how early they are likely to turn up?

Shel I'd say totally normal, but the right thing to do. If you don't book a place you might miss out later, but if you book and then can't bear to leave her later on ok you might have lost some money but you won't have lost your options. Having childminder organised before I had dd just meant such a weight off of my mind. Going back to work after mat leave brings up so many niggles and emotions its just lovely not to have to worry that dc might be somewhere not as good as you'd like because you had to rush to find it.

Thanks three. It really is a great nursery, I was practically in tears reading about the lovely things the children get to do there.
Sounds like you are doing the right thing with your DD (not that I have experience either). Not sure about your DH though, could you make him responsible for all night time duties if he doesn't like it? :)

Sheldon ah, thanks! I'd vaguely read about that but not put two and two together. It's not hurting, but it is a bit weird! Well done on nursery - that's something we really ought to get on top of. How old will she be when she starts? I'm looking at 9 months, which really isn't that far away, especially as we need two places in the same nursery - yikes! I'd best get on with it too!

Three, I understand that they won't let the babies stay in longer than 37 weeks, which is mid-February. I do expect to be slowing down after xmas, but not necessarily through choice, hehe!

Just popping in to wave and catch up. Tummy's feeling really stretched at the moment - quite uncomfortable, often hard to stand up straight after I've been at my desk. How is everyone? Off to read now... x

Aww sheldon I think it's normal to feel like that - I was discussing my return to work with DH and got quite teary. Good that you have it sorted though.
Sarah I have similar pulling pains, no fun!

Evening All

three really sorry about your horrendous night last night! Hang in there, dd will improve but as for dh... Could you give him something to read that advocates really draconian parenting methods so he realises what you are doing is both moderate and necessary?

manda think sheldonella is right, sounds like you have a bit of carpal tunnel going on. Suffer from it myself in pregnancy and I find it horrible but as you say, at least not painful! If it gets worse mw can refer you to a physio but there's not a lot they can do.

sheldon and lexi I'm not making any promises but when I was pregnant with ds I also felt very emotional at the thought of leaving him and going back to work but after a year at home with him, and knowing he was going to an amazing nursery it was a lot easier than I expected it to be.

sarah nice to see you! Hope you're doing well (apart from the bump pains - boo to those!)

Well, MW went well this afternoon, bp is 105/60!!! Woo hoo never seen it so low! She was very reassuring re low lying placenta and also baby's heartbeat was lovely and strong and always great to hear it. However, she said she thought it would be likely that I am going to get preeclampsia again and then she said my bump was too small and baby needed a growth spurt... Hmm, thanks,I feel huge! I'm not going to get my knickers in a twist though as I have the photos from when I was pg last time and I was a lot smaller that time. Oh and she also said ds was too small (at birth) He was a week early and dh and I are both small people fgs!!

Oh also meant to say zoey my bf has a quashqai and she loves it!

Oh girls I feel massive and I just bent over and actually was sick in my mouth, yuck!

Manda carpal tunnel is likely but can also be a side effect if your thyroxine is too high

Nice to see you Sarah, I had some bump pains last week and now have what I call a proper bump, not a is she/isn't she bump

I've reached the heartburn phase. Dd2 gave me loads but nothing with dd3. Think I'm going for all the worst symptoms of the previous three :(. as well as feeling sorry for myself tonight

Me too, Ood, really suffering with it today. Rubbish!

Three, stick at it, sleep is a battle of wills, probably be the first of many, start as you mean to go on by winning!! One of my friends said to me if you are teaching your kid to ride a bike and they fall off and cry you dont say ok no more cycling. Sleep and self settling and confidence is a life skill. The earlier they get that the happier children are. Happy parents with a good night's sleep is also v good for the children. When you move to a bed put a gate on the door, stops them running about the house too. Do I sound to cruel, make your dh feel better and say he could be married to a dragon like me! I love my sleep. (and the angel care monitor and board one of our best buys from ds1) although we just have the monitor now and am definitely a better mum if I sleep so convince myself i Am doing it for them too!

Gummi, the sick thing is awful isn't it! I keep telling myself only 4 months to go as c section booked for 13th March! Then I can eat again without the nausea feelings.

Shells, don't feel guilty at all. As someone wisely said its all about options and you 'll be better prepared doing this now rather than being In denial. I was a die hard career women and found it hard to go back to work, much to everyone's disbelief ( it was dh who wanted kids really) but you get back in the swing of it and that's so much easier when you are happy with the childcare decisions you make.

Night all. Love reading all your news!

Oh my goodness ladies I've just spent £50 (inc delivery) on two enormous newborn-6 months bundles, about 200 items in total... Shhhhhh, don't tell Mr JoJo ;)
I probably don't need this much in terms of clothing but I figured anything I don't want such as newborn jeans or micley mouse sweatshirts I can re bundle and sell on. I'm far too excited! Everything from bibs and booties to blankets and jackets.

We also went shopping in John Lewis this afternoon and bought a new (huge super king size) duvet, Egyptian cotton bedding and curtain rails for our lovely newly renovated house, we spent a small fortune. The new bed is being delivered on Thursday and the dining table and coffee table are being delivered next week that should hopefully be everything done and delivered phew!!

I have a to do list the size of my arm to get through tomorrow and the builders are arriving at 8am to start on our snagging list of stuff to finish off the project. Then I get the joys of a 6 hour train journey south on Friday, though I do get to work on my crossstitch instead of studying so that should be enjoyable :)

ood I've never had heartburn so I can't imagine what it feels like but I'm often woken up with cramp in my right foot/thigh.

manda does sound like carpal tunnel, are all fingers affected or just some? That's normally the giveaway! I can send you some basic stretches/exercises but it is worth getting checked out!

gummi I seem to have developed the 'mini sick' too! My morning sickness has returned too! Three days so far!! Ah well, I still have lots of energy and am sleeping much better!

I can't say I've hot any real pregnancy complaints at the moment, other than my scar feeling very tight some days all is well!! Still oiling up the now huge bump and no sign of stretch marks yet!

Okay, posting here and FB as am in quite a bit of discomfort. It hurts in a kind of line across my chest, right underneath my boobs, particularly when I breathe in. A little bit like I'm wearing an underwired bra that is four times too small! Is this just another bloomin' pregnancy thing?!

Thanks all for advice on tingly hands! I read up and it seemed to suggest (if I understood correctly) your hands needed to be a bit swollen for that? Mine not, though my veins and stuff are more prominent. I'm only on a teeny dose of thyroxine at the mo, just to bring me up into normal range - and have only been taking it for a week or so...so is prob not that?

Oh woe is me! but also seeing the funny side, kind of!

Sorry for others who are suffering from more challenging stuff.

Yippee Em for hearing the heartbeat!

JoJo your John Lewis splurge reminds me almost exactly of us two years ago when we bought our house! I just love John Lewis! We got our heavy oak kitchen table from there, vastly reduced because it was ex-shop floor and slightly damaged. We didn't care as we were very much planning to break it in ourselves ? but JL sent round a French polisher to fill in the couple of dints - couldn't believe it! And all the staff are so damn nice too! Okay, JL love-fest over for now!

Ooh 24 weeks today! That's vialability isn't it? Though my midwife said 28 weeks is better odds (more like 90% chance) so I'm aiming for that milestone now!

Sounds right, manda - when I was heavily pregnant with DS, I felt like that. He had his feet under my ribs, and was squashing my lungs so it was hard to breathe sometimes!

ooh manda sorry to heart about your discomfort. Must be so hard for your body going through double the pregnancy changes in half the time! Sounds to me like babies are squeezing upwards? I know nothing about medicine though! Ditto jojo will know more than I do, but my understanding of carpal tunnel is it is a result of the nerve passage being squeezed so it won't neccessarily follow that your hands are swollen, well mine aren't (yet!) Yay for 24 weeks!

Jojo splurge sounds fab and new baby clothes are a bargain. Even if you end up splitting it up for resale it's a great way to make a profit!

Night night All, DS has just started crying. This doesn't bode well!

Hi all. Lovely to hear everyone's news. Seems like we are all trucking along nicely. Hard to believe we are mid 20ish weeks isn't it? I can't believe I am going to have a new baby in the new year. How my life has completely changed in the 4 years since I met DH. Sometimes he gets a shock when I say we are married "only 2 years!" Lol.... I suppose I do too!

DS is flying on his feet these days. Such a joy and much more fun.

Starting to think about Christmas and presents. DH is impossible to buy for so I need to get thinking cap on. We do secret Santa in both our families which works out well though my sister likes massive budgets so I am trying to rein her in a bit. Harder said than done!

Got a lovely new nail polish today. Am really living on the edge.

Hope everyone gets a good nights sleep.

OC

V quick place Mark for me. Well done on JL and eBay haul JoJo. Sorry to hear MS is still a bain for so many of you. Carpal tunnel is most unpleasant - feel for you there. Sleeping woes; as noted better tough love now than later when it'll be harder to understand and I'm told "why French children don't throw food" is a good sensible parenting book (nb. Ive not read it).

I'm exhausted. Late night cause caught up with old friend in USA who I've just sent pic of Socs to and given her the news. Lovely to catch up and nice that she's chuffed cause I know she's not having easiest time at mo.

Right to sleep, perchance all night without need of a loo break..

Morning ladies, it sounds as if there's lots to challenge us all on the preggers symptoms, sympathies to all! Heartburn central chez moi, got a Gaviscon prescription thankfully as although it is the most horrendously disgusting and vile stuff, it's the only thing that that works!!

I have bought my first mcbump item bar the pushchair; a furry snowsuit with silver stars, VERY snugly! Well done on your clothes haul Jojo, and am at your house being finished, ours is woefully a long way off!! It's funny every time I read that you're going on the train, as the train line goes past the bottom of our garden!!!

Heartfelt sympathy on those with disturbed sleeping; I am evil without enough hours, which unfortunately these days is every night. Am edging into the 2 pees per night pattern which (DP informs me) is making me a grumpy mare!!!!

Flumpings galore from McBump; DP put his hand on the old tum tum last night and it literally kicked (or heid butted?!) his hand! 25 weeks tomorrow, and 39 work days left!!!!!!!!!!! (taking out hols, weekends, training etc).

Am off to Copenhagen on Sunday for a few days-work trip tho but the change of scene will be good, and make next week go quickly!! Not sure I'll be posting much, but will try and catch up in the eves.

New car is fab, a gorgeous island blue colour, very bright and sparkly, and VERY roomy inside, I was surprised. Naming ceremony at the weekend for it with DSS, haha (all our cars have a name, is that weird?!)

Could do with a bit of advice on bed/cot set ups from those in the know: what's the thinking on dropside cots these days? Will be looking out for secondhand baby bedroom furniture for when it goes in there post being in our room, but not sure what I should be looking out for, I know about the new mattress buying to be best, but what about slat/rail widths/ adjustable height base? Any tip gratefully received!!

Sorry for few individuals checks, am stuck with phone, and it is a bit me me me me have popped up a bit on FB as its s but easier. Have good days all, that's us arrived at work!!!!

em your midwife sounds a right doom and gloom merchant! She can't possibly know if you're going to get pe again. I've decided resolutely that I'm not! . What gestation were you last time? I'm pretty sure that by this time last time (if you see what I mean) I was feeling pretty rough. I'm 24 weeks on Friday (hurrah) and ds was born at 26+6.

manda 24 weeks is brilliant and you should celebrate! I will be on Friday. Have a growth scan today at 2 to check progress - em, did your mw not suggest this of she's worried about growth? They can also measure the resistance of blood through the placenta which would tell you if enough nutrients etc are passing through. Mine was slightly resistant last time they measured despite double clexane and aspirin daily but consultant wasn't worried and said its what she'd expect.

Right, time to get ds off moshi world and into school uniform! Waves to everyone else (partic jealous of lovely new bedding. Really need some)...