May 2013 Third Thread.

[SecretCervix]

Sorry for the not very imaginative title. Noticed old thread was full and couldn't find a new one.

Oops bad typing First line should read: improved either I'm hoping over the next 2 weeks it will gradually improve.

Went to see the doc today to test my pee as mw concerned with possible UTI symptoms, turned out fine just stretching ligaments and tender lower back and general peeing more. However, I just MENTIONED the flu jab to find out if the surgery will contact me to offer it...no sooner did I say Flu jab, did he have the flu jab in hand! Barely had time to think about it before it was in me. So, warning guys, if you are not keen, DON'T even mention it. Luckily, I was kind of interested as I have a pretty crap immune system but in hindsight would have preferred a bit of preparation. Must be on commission.

LittleBairn, it's a new thing at Kings. They did it at 22 weeks last time and now they do it at both. My BMI is the same as before.

I don't think the internal is a bmi thing as mine is 21ish so must just be standard procedure now

So many kings people here! Is anyone going to any of the workshops? I'm golf to miss out the 'parenting' classes this time, but will probably do the breast feeding workshop as had a really rocky start last time

The breastfeeding workshop was totally ace when I went before. I won't go again as I have a rare condition that means I have supply problems so I'll be seeing a lactation consultant before the birth. Also I'm still feeding DD. But I would definitely recommend it.

Stiffy, how are you finding BFing now you're pregnant again? I'm finding it really painful and that my supply is rapidly diminishing. My obstetrician reckons I'll run out in the next couple of weeks and go back to producing colostrum. I'm a bit [hsad] about having to wean DS. It's like I'm saying he's not my baby any more.

Hey all, just catching up with thread! 12+1 today. Been a bit ill lately can't shake it off as quickly as I'd like. Probably due to being pregnant and run down from that anyway.

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MamaBrussels and Stiffy, I'm still bfing DS1. Found it utterly horrible from weeks 5 to about 10, (painful) but it is getting better. Night feeding can get quite uncomfortable and I seem to dehydrate v. quickly - drank 2l of water through the night last night. One night I had to go and get DS a drink cos both he and I had dried up.... I posted on the bf boards and Angeldog told me that 1st trimester is the hardest and recommended a book called 'Adventures in Tandem Feeding'. It's definitely getting easier, specially the last week, so I hope we can keep it up (DS is still under 2). How far are you both along? It might get much easier quite soon...

I was going to ask about those of you still bfing too. I've not found it too too uncomfortable it was for a short while but not so much now. My big wonder is about supply.

I read that the slow change from milk to colostrum starts around 26 weeks but my supply seems a lot less now. Let down isn't happening as quickly as it normally does either nor as forcefully (I've finally been able to dispense with the breast pads the last month!). I really wanted to get DS to a year (he's 10mo now) and then decide whether to continue and also whether to contemplate tandem feeding.

I'm worried we won't make a year now :(

He has wake up and bedtime feeds fine but hardly interested in day time feeds anymore. It's like he can't be bothered to hang on until let down happens, but he's not asking for anything at any other time. I'm worried he's not getting enough! Although he does eat brilliantly. Not had night feeds for a long time so it's not like he's making it up anywhere. Maybe he just wants 3 or even 2 feeds a day? That can't be enough though can it?!

Don't worry no one has any answers! I think I just needed to get all my worries about it off my chest as they've been building up. It's good to just be able to ramble and here is a nice place to do that :)

beaver I think I'm having a boy, not based necessarily on my previous 2, just a feeling I've got. I was also right with the other 2, I didn't just 'think', I knew what I was having, it's hard to explain, but with DD I was so certain I would happily have bought girl clothes before I knew the sex, the only thing stopping me was that I knew it was bonkers! If this one turns out to be a girl instead then I'll agree with you :o.

I can't comment on the BFing having pretty much failed twice, but I hope that all of you hoping to continue feeding are able to do so, there was a woman on my ante-natal thread with DD who did manage to tandem feed her other two whilst pregnant with her third but she was a BFing counsellor. Could it be worth giving la leche league (no idea of their contact details but I've heard they're meant to be brilliant) a call?

thanks bit surprised its becoming standard, if offered I will decline it doesn't seem to offer much medical knowledge IMO. If you do have a short (?) cervix and more likely to go into Pre term labour the last thing you need is to be worried and stressed throughout the pregnacy!

Terror I was told by the 9 month check health carer that they didn't expect babies to have more then 2 aday at that point, my dd has only been having 2 milk feeds aday since 9 months, one first thing in the morning and one last thing at night, she hasn't woken in the night for a feed since she was over 20wks! I think she's could be at the point of loosing the morning one now at 14months though there's no way shed let that bedtime one go, I've fully weened now though, I wanted to TTC and wasn't getting anywhere with af while bf, even down to one feed aday nothing

Hey everyone, I've had a little name change, I'm still pedantic but am thinking of changing my middle name to 'procrastination'.

Sparkly & Terra I'm 11 weeks & 4 days now; DS is 23 months so he has BM for comfort rather than nutrition. Finding it very painful and my supply is really going down. I express milk for him so I can see exactly how much is being produced.

I think it's due to pregnancy but it could also be to do with going back to work, DS going to creche and changing my routine IYSWIM. I was going to wean him in Dec anyway but Dr thinks the milk will have gone by then so will try to encourage him to try something else this week while we're on holiday.

littlebairn sorry can you explain more about having a short cervix and being more likely to go into preterm labour? I've never heard of that before, but had DS at 35+5 and DD at 35+6 with no possible explanation of why.

kitty that's really interesting to know, thanks.

Did your DD just have water in between then and food snacks between meals? At the moment (well sort of before all this) DS would have his 2 middle of day time milk feeds at the times when you'd give a snack (ie mid morning and afternoon).

I'm not worried about him not having the milk if he doesn't need it as he eats so very well (he's over 98th centile for height and weight) just want to know whether this is down to him and he's causing my supply concerns or whether pregnancy is doing it. I probably won't know will I?!

This is all new to me as I've stopped bfing at 6 months before with my other 2. Different job this time and had longer on maternity leave. I go back to work in about 2 weeks :( and worrying about how to do his bedtime feed. I work evenings and won't be there for bedtime.

What's the betting once the new baby comes I'll have forgotten all of this again and have the same worries! I've already forgotten what the process with work is (it's sort of a vague hazy memory) and paperwork and it hasn't been that bloody long since I last did it!

MammaB ouch...very painful does not sound fun. Is expressing as uncomfortable? Are you finding the idea of stopping unsettling or are you more than ready? It's good that your plan when to stop hasn't been messed around by more than a month or so. Although I suppose when you have a date in your head to stop it might be upsetting to have to bring it forward unplanned? Sorry if that's too nosy, I know it can be quite emotional to stop and that's without any added pregnancy hormones.

Hello, fellow BFers. DD is almost 18 months so for us it's pretty recreational. It hasn't been painful for me as I don't experience breast change in pregnancy, and I haven't noticed any change in supply, in that DD feeds about the same as she did before, but I do find early morning feeds fairly challenging for the nausea as DD tends to climb all over me!

BUT my supply issues mean tandem feeding is out I think, as I will need to give all my milk to the new baby. So I will need to wean DD during pregnancy which does make me very sad as I wanted it to be her decision to stop.

By 9 months, the feeds will definitely start decreasing anyway so please don't think you're shortchanging your baby. I do know a few woman who successfully tandem feed so it really needn't be the end of things. There are some mad midwives who will say it can't be done but they are wrong. It isn't unusual though for the older child to wean itself during pregnancy as they dislike the changing taste of the milk.

Terror, yes dd has water all day- to be honist I'm lucky and she loves it do I have no worries on hydration, she gulps her water down as fast as milk! She has 3 meals aday and snacks depending on whether she's hungry and how much she's eaten ( she seems to have turned into an eating machine of late ?!?) I found at about 9 months she never made any signs for wanting her milk in the day after a while and as I like to be out and about alot I didnt think about it until we'd get home but then I thought well of she'd wanted it shed let me know ( she used to make it very obvious!) so we just naturally droped them, the last feed of the day at 7 had always been a bottle I expressed as I read to give them one bottle aday as soon as bf was established so that you would have no problems weening ( this worked perfectly for us and allowed dh to participate with feeding, I know he felt like a spare part the first week and really missed that part) I changed that to formula. Again she never bothered ( I think she may be very chilled though lol) then I kept the morning one up for a while about 6 weeks so I never had problems stopping as I had cut down very gradually and went to a bottle then, I was abit sad to begin with but on the whole it's made life easier now as dh quite often gets her ready in the morning , I shoot off at the crack of dawn before she wakes so I can be home sooner, I had only set myself a 6 month mark though so did it for longer then planed and dd never cared ( ungrateful lol) she's never tried to get to my boobs after or indicated she wanted it now if she sees them she just finds it funny to poke my nipples anyway sorry for the long post but hth

Oh my mum feed my db till ds was born fine though, didn't know she was pregnant till 20wks as she's been exclusively bf so it can be done, I don't think she tandomed after though

Sorry forgot to add it sounds to me like he's just reached that age where they naturally start to drop them so do nt worry and I believe in regards to work they allow women time to bf their children in works time although I'm not sure how long that goes on for, is that what you ment?

Morning ladies!! I'm so excited- I just found the heartbeat on my Doppler! Hurray! I've been reading all your experiences of bfing and I think you're amazing: I really want to but know so many women who have struggled so it's good hear happy stories.
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beaver, littlepickle, stiffy we should definitely have a meet up once we're on mat leave. I'm crystal palace based so kings isn't too far in the car. I just need to sort out learning to drive so i don't have to rely on dh!
littlepickle I'm taking up all their offers of classes. this is my first time of begin pregnant so I'll take in any info that comes my way and hopefully make some informed decisions
beaver I hadn't defuzzed prior to my internal! I'd defuzzed my tummy (how fuzzy has that become the past few months!) but presented some beautifully hairy legs! I guess they must be used to it. stiffy thanks for the headsup about them repeating it at 22 weeks. They didn't mention that to me! Seven77 I don't know why there's a link between a short cervix and preterm delivery. Its just what the midwife said.

sparkly I think thats amazing that your FEMALE mil is so sexist and only wants boys. Does she wish she was a man? Maybe its worth asking her!

My mil was renamed by her grandparents! When she was born her parents sent a telegram to their parents to inform them 'pleased to announce the birth of Cathryn blah blah' and they received a telegram back saying 'pleased to hear of the safe arrival of Cathryn-Wyn blah blah' !! They did this with my MILs siblings too. They were very proudly welsh and were insistent that all three children had welsh names! How rude!

picklep I wish my dr would just give me the flu jab. likewise I have a bit of a rubbish immune system (so made hiding pregnancy not too hard!) but my surgery will only give me the jab if I attend a 'flu clinic'. I have a nurse appt on monday, during half term, so I asked if they would give me the jab then too. but no, they won't, and they don't have any spaces in the flu clinic during half term so I'm having to take time off school in the first week back to get my flu jab! I'm almost tempted to pay to get it in boots in my lunch hour but I don't really see why I should this year!

This has been a long message! Oops, I just have one more thing to say - terror I think you have the best come back ever and I hope you don't mind if I steal it for my dh - "go pregnant yourself". Love it!

Happy Saturday everybody!

Hi,

Blurgh!! 9w4 and feeling rather ropey today. Not specificitis! Just dont fancy eating anything but feel yuck. Made soup and can't face it. Think I just need to go back to bed but DS and his snottiness won't allow that- DH asleep upstairs having done nightshift!

Went to the loo earlier and there was a definite teeny amount of brownish blood so feeling hacked off all round. Sure its nothing but can't be bothered today!

Hope yr all having a much better weekend than me! ;-)

terror have you looked on kellymom website about BFing? am sure you have but thought I would state the obvious anyway. My DS was still feeding a lot at 10 months, every baby is different aren't they. I am pretty sure that it is standard that all babies have breastmilk or formula as their main food until they are one though. not real food or water as they need the fats and vits for brain development.

bunny that is amazing, am so happy for you! I would just love to listen in every now and then but I think having it in the house would drive me loopy.

I am feeling pretty well again today! am at least 10+6 :) The tiredness seems to be lifting - I cleaned my whole house yesterday I felt so well and slept badly... but still feel ok today. last week I would have been floored. am relieved! Know it is probably only temporary though.

boobs still sore as heck and still feel rough on and off and am HUNGRY!

beaver and seven I absolutely knew DS was a girl :) turned out to be a girl with a winkle! [hgrin]