graduates of the wine-and-shagging-after-mc thread come hither!

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Seeing as practically all of us have now got pg, here is a new home for all of us to come to carry on chatting after getting the BFP after our mcs. Today we are pregnant! :)

wilde I spent lots of the day staring and waiting for action :) I think I managed quite well although the state of the house might say otherwise.

I have a mix of reusable nappies but the only ones that really fit at the moment are totsbots (fine as she was weighed yesterday and is 10lb 3). I have lots of terry squares but they look huge on her so need to try some other folds. It is all good fun :) We were given lots of disposables which we are using when out and at night or when there are no clean reusables.

Hope baby turns for you, there is still plenty of time isn't there? I can't believe how close you are now, it is amazing. Mind, I can't believe mine is 4 weeks old tomorrow. Where did the time go?

Another brave day for me today - I'm meeting my NCT group for coffee and this involved a huge trip out in the car to park somewhere I'm scared to park and manage my huge heavy pram. I didn't think the pram purchase through properly. Wish me luck!

Good luck! You'll be fine!

4 weeks old?! But that's ridiculous, you only had dd yesterday! Glad the reusables working out for you, have washed all mine but think I need some new fleecy insides...

Well am.not sure if there is lots of time. Conversation yesterday with mw seemed to be - check again next week, if not turned have scan asap, then consultant appt and Ecv to turn baby and then if no go a x section... All before and at 37 weeks in case go into labour naturally?! Sounds quite manic and full on. The baby is two weeks small tho so maybe just isn't settled yet.

Ds is really mardy today. Hmm.

sheldon - love your description of watching and waiting. Take ALL the time you can, as they grow so quickly. It goes in the blink of an eye. Totsbots are great - they seemed to fit mine the best all the way through. This time round I am using Huggies newborn disposables; am pleased with them, much softer than Pampers. How is the feeding going? ARe you getting it sussed now?

boo - massage. Lovely. And relax...

snow congrats on a boy! They are just fab (says she knowing no different....) 20 week scan. Wow. Seems to have gone so fast.

wilde - pardon me..35 weeks? Golly gosh (my DS1 new fav phrase) - how did that happen? You must be lovely and big now - I love the big belly stage with all sorts of limbs poking out. boo that means you must be about the same. wilde get on your hands and knees! I managed to turn DS4 that way. It has something to do with the baby hanging in your belly and its head and back being heaviest parts therefore its likely to shift to the optimal position? MW did explain it but had baby brain. Sorry. Lean forwards against your ball while watching tv etc. Swimming? Am sure he will turn of his own accord. Oh, and don't be conned by measuring small - DS4 was 2-3 wks 'small' according to the tape measure, but was my heaviest and longest yet.

AFM: skiing was great. Didn't ski myself, but took DS4 up the mountain in sling. DS1-3 all had ski school, so I had at least 2 hrs off every morning, which was bliss. No cooking, no cleaning, no making beds, no washing. LOVED it. Home for 2 days then we zoomed off to N Yorks for 5 days to see my cousin and her newborn. He is tiny - only just reaching 7lbs at 6wks. Very sweet. Made me feel very broody already. DH consequently came home and has booked himself in for the snip

DS4 is just delicious. I thank my lucky stars every day that he is here. He was so wanted, even if I couldn't admit it. Still bfeeding, along with one bottle at 7pm. Still enjoying the feeding, which I didn't with DS3, so will carry on for as long as it works and I can juggle the other 3. School starts again on Tuesday for DS1&2, Wednesday for DS3. I've had a great Easter holiday with them, partly due to DH's contract finishing when we went away so have had him home to help out. Interview today for next one, so expecting all hell to break loose when he has to go back to work!

twenty - hoping that you are well?

PS wilde if you don't have the chance to set up FB, am happy to have a go. Will ask DH to ensure that it is secure and only open to us? Guessing I'd have to pm you all with the link.

ice how wonderful to hear your sparkly news! You are sooooo busy with your brood but make it sound fun which is both inspiring and refreshing :) skiing sounds amazing (well, not skiing but chilling out while boys knacker themselves out).

Thanks for the advice on hands and knees. Only wish I could swim but even tho have had no bleeds for weeks now (ooh!) I can't trust it wouldn't happen in the pool. Mw agreed! Did spend yesterday afternoon on hands and knees making ds trainset tho! And this afternoon was in flatpack hell but all on.knees etc so who knows. Tbh he was head down when I went to bed but transverse when I.got up. I think he still.has too much room!

Inyeresting you say about measuring small too ice - when he was head.downhis bum was right under my ribs in a way it isn't normally and made my uterus much higher. Is normally stretched outwards and sideways which.obvs they don't measure for.

Am glad.you are.enjoying your boy ice. I think I know how you feel a bit, when my boy is here I think I will feel a happiness and lightness of being I just can't yet. Even tho am massive and 35 weeks the mc has totally rocked my belief that I am.growing a healthy baby in there!

Sorry for.typos etc. Stupid stupid phone :)

Up at 4am today! Hello pregnancy insomnia... Bizarrely was ok, years of getting up to ds has helped I guess.

And in a weird way it means I am gearing up to have a baby soon :) whee! Not so good is on my third day of looking after ds without dh. Thank goodness he is home tonight and it is the weekend!

Sorry. Strange brain dump :)

Hello!

sorry been manic this week with both the DDs off. Actually by tuesday I think I was heading for a nervous breakdown but DH came home from work early (which is very unusual, he told them his wife was having a nervous breakdown....) to help out. Things have improved since then. It's not been helped by DD2 being ill and up in the night so I've had terrible nights sleep, and no naps during the day. Am a zombie, and pregnant. Not good. Anyway, today is the last day before weekend and next week they are back at school/ pre school so I will be able to rest! (And do all the jobs I am desperate to do before babe arrives!)

Anyhoo - great to hear all your news, so glad things are going well sheldon - sounds like you are doing brilliantly. I am afraid I gave up on reusables, they just seemed so much hassle and by the time we got used to them DD was on the move (5 months) and they seemed to weigh her down. I am thinking about doing reusable wipes this time, though DH isn't keen and I think it won't work without both of us on board.

Wild my babe is breech too apparently. I am quite worried about it although my midwife wasn't, as she said there was loads of room for it to turn and it wasn't engaged yet. She mentioned ECV but also that they would let me attempt a breech delivery - but not at home. I have been looking up ECV on mumsnet and have rather been put off by a couple of threads which didn't have good results. So I suppose I'd go for a breech delivery, but I am hoping babe will have moved around. I have to say I simply cannot tell - keep trying to figure out where kicks are but the strongest kicks seem to come at night when I am half asleep so I am not waking myself up to assess them properly! Tis a worry though. But as I say, midwife seemed confident it would change (this was last week). I am 36 weeks today.

ice skiing and being away sounds fabulous - it is great just to not have to worry about all the household chores isn't it?! Sounds like you are really enjoying DS4! Hurrah! I am a bit nervous about coping with 3 so you are an inspiration!

I too am a bit anxious about the babe - just can't feel confident that everything will be fine. As well as the mc, I think this is also to do with Dad dying suddenly - I feel that things do, and can, go wrong... I can't believe I never felt like this before, I was so blindly confident.

Anyway, have to rush off now to pick up DD1 from drama course. There is a show and she is a bit disappointed that she has been given the part of... a tree. !

Aw boo! I have been on.my own with ds since tues and am knackered - and that is just ds! Hope you get some rest this weekend... Also feel v similar re. Confidence. Last time was so arrogant all would be fine.

I cant believe you are breech atm too! Am also concerned but, like yours, mw was pretty breezy about it. She was quite presumptuous that I would have the ecv if necessary and questioned my wince. Said better that thAn breech birth but tbh the idea of it just feels all wrong. I just want my baby left to do his thing... But also to just be here and safe. Bah. Hopefully they will turn :)

A tree! A marvellous tree :)

yes fingers crossed they'll turn. I did feel a bit of movement one night and wondered if it had turned then... but as I say, I am hopeless at telling these things. Next midwife appt is a week today so time will tell.

Did you see the thread on ECV? It scared the shit out of me, excuse the language! I was up for it before that - but you do wonder if there is some reason the babe is breech, although I guess if it's only recently turned breech it can turn back.... I don't know what to think really. I do think majority of babies turn, don't they?

Yes, tree was very spritely and gracefully moving around! She did great.

You very sweet people have brought tears to my eyes. Thank you for thinking of me. Sadly I am not on FB. I could peak in through my OH's account but I'm sure but that might be odd for you all.

Sorry to hear about breach worries and hope those babes turn around soon. Boo your dc will I'm sure make the best tree ever! And you've had a lot to cope with, I think not so much a nervous breakdown as a healthy response to a lot of stressors. Wild how annoying you can't swim without worry, I hope other things help. Snow, a boy!!!! . Ice your post about your hols and babies made me smile, so happy for you! Sheldonella, hope your next brave step, getting out for coffee with your group, went well!

oh boo I am not sure I could go through with ECV. I hate the whole idea. I will have to do some serious research if it comes to it. However, I think the baby has turned and this time still seems to have stayed there. I have been on my hands and knees a lot the past two days doing DS' flatpack furniture (with carpel tunnel-caused numb fingers!) and also spend 10 mins a day leaning on my arms with my bum in the air! This dopes tend to get him in the right position. He pops out tho (I can tell when lying down when his head is down, have a big lump by my bikini line!) so guess is just roomy.

hello twenty! lovely to see you :)

right I know how to make a secret group on fb but can't make it apparently without anyone to add! Hehe. My name is completely crackers so would be good if I set it up as you will be able to find me easily. I don't even know if that makes sense Anyway. PM me your actual name and piccie description if you want to be in the group, then I shall look you up on fb, ask you to be my friend and then join you to the group. If this ISN'T how it works please feel free to correct me/take over

Arf DH is back after his week away and I am so sad because we have bickered all morning. He is still in grumpy-after-work-trip mode and I am needing some attention and sympathy and wild praise after coping with DS and work on barely any sleep and massively pg and still managed to squeeze in PhD work. Am feeling most neglected hormonal and overtired Bah.

Wilde, have just tried sending a pm as trial...

Sorry to hear about bickering - will pass quickly.

Enjoy the sunshine everyone!!

sunshine?! WHERE? it is teeming down here!

Bah, bickering schmickering. We have apologised and had a hug but tbh he is still being a twonk . I am taking deep breaths and hiding. Thank goodness we are at a kidlings party this afternoon, then home for silly tv, fire, pjs and maybe a cuddle. Not talking anyway

I shall pm you back with my name then (eek! why does that feel scary?!). send me a fb friend request then we can be friends and also have our wee secret group partay.

twenty I demand you sort out your non-fb status and join us x

Exciting! I have pm'd you wilde.

twenty could you set up a private profile just for the purposes of our group? You could make yourself unsearchable too to stay private.

Great day here, back in pre pregnancy favourite skirt and day out shopping :)

erm. I can't find you guys on fb! I can find me though so I am findable! hehe. piss up, brewery springs to mind...

Just cried at DH saying I hate being married (!! I don't, am just very tired) and don't want to clean any more because I hate cleaning and cooking so I am now spending today working (yay) and he is cleaning and mekkin dinner and instead of being alarmed gave me a nice cuddle. Maybe I do like being married :) Think am a bit hormonal and feeling most sorry for myself. Not sleeping at all any more too which also makes me cry a lot. Hopeless without sleep.

do any of you have sun?! We have had the worst stormy weather, even tripped our power! ah, cornwall...

pre preg clothes already Sheldon! I am impressed! Have a lovely day!

One of my fav sayings, the brewery one!

Have found you wilde and sent a request over. sheldon will pm you too with a link to me.

Sun, sun, sun! Had to come inside as was baking in my winter clothes. FabUlous. Even got washing out on the line not wishing to rub it in

Sun! Lucky beggars! Hope you basked away :) have added you as a friend and tothe group. Hurrah!

Hope.all is well.snow and.boo. Come.join us!

Ooh I want to be in the FB group too!! Sorry, I've been AWOL so I'll read thru everyone's posts this afternoon and catch up and then post tonight :)

ice - bit of sunshine here last couple of days, not exactly balmy yet but def a bit warmer finally...spring!! At last!!!

wilde - last week or week before me and DH were both in foul form, me with hormones and just really tired, him stressed with work but then we went to a wedding about 10 days ago while DS stayed with my mum and dad and the wee break from domestic life and all the newly married vibes seems to hav rubbed off on us and everything is peachy again! Pregnancy is a real roller coaster anyway but sometimes it seems like when you add marriage, other kids and work to the equation it's more like swimming with sharks lol glad your DH is being v understanding!

sheldon - wow that is amazing! I had DS at 26 and contrary to all I read about being young and fit i most certainly did not snap back into shape afterwards, took me more like 18 months to be back in skinny clothes!! So yes you def deserve to be cheerful and hope you got some lovely stuff out shopping :) I'm sitting here already feeling a bit massive at 24 weeks wearing some v funky over the bump maternity leopard print leggings. Classy bird!!

boo - Hope you are doing ok! And also hope little un has turned... DS stayed stubbornly somewhere between breech / transverse til 34 weeks so my bump looked HUGE, I got awful stretch marks and I was convinced I'd need a section. I bounced around a lot on one of those gym balls and watched tv on all fours (I know so glam) and after all that he just turned himself during the night when I was sleeping. Now he's with us I can see that's just typical of his personality ha ha

Hello!
so did you figure out how to do the fb group? I am rubbish with it.

all fine here - am a bit worried about babies position as I simply cannot tell. I thought she may have turned but then bump seems high up again. is a bit anxious making. I haven't ordered my pool liner yet as don't want to tempt fate! (if it's breech will be hospital delivery). I think I will refuse ECV too, wild. 37 weeks tomorrow....

Yes I too have found the recent sun somewhat of a relief. I feel like I have been walking around hunched up and holding my coat together for months, and finally I can stride about - almost feeling lighter despite mahoosive baby bump! Our tiny garden seems to have recovered pretty quickly and my camellia flowers are coming out, so that is v nice too. Kids are loving running around outside... all good.

Wowsers sheldon pre preg skirt !!!! v impressive, please say it is elasticated waist . I feel so far off anything like that... but obv do need to get baby out first!

Sorry you have been bickering with DH wild - tis part of married life in my experience. We have 'words' fairly often. But things are going well right now as I have some free time with DDs back in school/ pre school, and can relax... Hope things have improved.

Right, someone tell me how to see you guys on facebook. Are we sure it is private? As wild says, there is something a bit scarey about it! I don't actually trust facebook at all...!

little and boo if you want to be in on the FB I will pm you my fb address then you can add me as a friend and I shall add you to the group :) Is marvellous nosing at the babies!!

boo is your next mw apt at 37 weeks then? I have a presentation scan on Monday, at 36+6. Is the earliest they could do. Bump is high again too and MW came yesterday for HB and labour chat (sheeeet am NOT ready!) and checked and is concerned that indeed bubs is breech. Or he could be really far into the pelvis... but I am not sure either. It really does make you think a lot doesn't it?! I am obsessed with how/where I sit and am reading up about ECV and C-sections. I would have an elective c section at 39 weeks (no time away at all!) if he was breech or could have a vaginal delivery at hospital. Who knows, have to chill out until Monday. (not happening)

And boo you are quite right about holding back from getting all the HB stuff in yet, liners are pricy! MW said to wait until had scan too.

thanks for the sympathy re: me and DH, I ranted a lot and he has been really lovely about it all :)

Oh and I made DS a chest of drawers and a cabin bed out from a flatpack yesterday and today. I am DYING. wtf was I thinking doing that at 36 weeks?!!! Is done tho, hurrah :) And uni work is nearly, nearly all finished. got a 3hr round trip to see my sup tomorrow and hopefully on Tues, when am 37 weeks I can finally say goodbye to my student days and concentrate on looking after me and this baby. that will be a wonderful, wonderful feeling.

ps will do fb stuff later, have to work and eat before DH comes home with the child for me to put to bed in 15 mins!

No rush re Facebook thing. Hurrah for nearly finished with phd!!
Glad you've sorted things out with DH.
Here's hoping both our babes have turned!! I will see midwife tomoz for homebirth chat & prep, then next avail scan if still breech... Argh!!

boo if you pm me I shall reply with my fb page deets. Don't want to just randomly pm just in case!

fingers crossed to turned babies indeedy. good luck with MW today, let us know how it goes!

Hiyall
Baby is head down now, apparently! Am relieved, and have ordered my birth pool liner in celebration. I'm still a bit worried, as one is... but this is definitely good news! Hope yours is same, wild!

I will do pm now, wild!

Yay go baby boo!

Am sure my bump has dropped a bit and keep feeling pressure.. starting to get period pains too which is quite exciting! However, not convinced is not just positive thinking!

Will get you and snow onto group tomoz :)

So pleased for you!