April 2013- part 3 scan scan scan

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Started a new thread for all us April ladies.

Can you postpone it teapig? Just for the week? Is it a holiday?

MrsJohnDeere mine is 17th so we can be late to the party scan buddies if you like?

Congrats on all the positive scans and welcome to newbies. Somewhere - fab news about your result. Giddy and edin - I'm also v keen on exploring the whole hypnobirthing thing. I like the sound of its ethos, plus I'm perhaps madly as it will be DC1 considering having a home birth. Midwife got all excited last week when I mooted it. Obv they must have targets or something.

Must confess misery still reigns in always land. The looming cold has now definitely landed so on top of feeling exhausted and relentlessly nauseous, I now feel like my head's about to explode, and I can't sleep properly thanks to being all congested. NICE!! Rubbish not being able to take much - GP even advised against Vicks vaporub and olbas oil, my usual staples for getting through this sort of thing. Earlier musings about getting the flu jab are slightly academic now as GP says I can't have it anyway at the mo as I'm a bit feverish. Grrr.

Sorry for moi moi moi post. I'm a big ball of wallowing self-pity. Trying to drag myself out of it...hopefully some chicken soup will help :-)

Only a week and a bit to 12-week scan. Can't arrive fast enough.

Happy Tuesday all you lovely ladies.

10+4

Evening all, have had my booking in today,but have to wait until 16th October for scan. Mw confirmed I am high risk due to the cancer, chemo & surgery and seemed almost amazed that I have managed to conceive so quickly.
Woe was asking about NCT classes, I did them with my first and am still friends with the group and we have all just waved our dc's off to school. I supported two classes once I had him and its like being a mum to talk to and ask advice when you feel a bit silly asking the hv. I am also treasurer for our local branch so you can give and get a lot out.
Am still sick with a vengeance, but ds hasn't been late for school yet, despite me having to leg it up the stairs several times as we are leaving.

thanks guys. touch wood this pregnancy is now on. deep breath!

johndeere i think your nurse is talking more about personality which is a total roll of the dice. there's nothing intrinsically more difficult about number 3. i was number 3 and i was considered the easy one!

xxx

teapig of course you should do what you feel most comfortable with and obv how easily you can change your plans (postponing/cancelling) depends partly on the lay of the land with work and how supportive and understanding you reckon they'll be. But all I'd say is allow yourself the possibility in your head that actually if you don't go, and if you have to tell work about pg earlier than you planned, it might not be the end of the world: plans change, people adapt, and generally in my experience (obv haven't had this particular situation but have had something every week - sickness, sudden disappearance due to bleeding/need for urgent scan, cold this week - which has hampered my usual diligence at work), people really are supportive and just deal with it. It's only work! Yeah work is important on a practical level but no doubt your reputation for general amazingness are sufficiently well established that one change of plan (even if it seems significant now) for a VERY good reason isn't going to change all that!

Even a bit of disruption/reorganisation on the work side might be justified if you weigh it up against the strong chance that you'll be fretting constantly if you do go (whatever about any small risk mc-wise of the flight itself.....worry and anxiety not good for the LO).

Sorry for longer-than-necessary words of advice ramblings. Just my thoughts....do feel free to ignore!

teapig I read a very interesting thread in pregnancy a while ago about flying when pregnant, started by a poster who is a pilot. I've just done a search for it, might have some good advice on it? She makes the point that pilots are allowed to fly pregnant up to 26 weeks.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/pregnancy/1516256-Flying-and-aeroplanes-when-pregnant-Some-facts

But obviously you can only do what you feel comfortable with, it's your body after all.

teapig I flew to the dominican republic at 6 weeks and home at 8 weeks (9 hours each way) and my gp, midwives and travel advice nurse were all fine about me flying. I wore flight socks and kept moving as much as possible and as far as i'm aware all is still fine (scan tomorrow!) x

Thanks very much for all the advice, so great to be able to talk on here.

Faith, it's for work and unfortunately the dates can't change as it's timed with a big meeting. I think if it was a holiday I'd cancel more to stop me fretting and have my scan earlier. As it's work I feel difficult about pulling out, though completely agree with always that plans change and work can adapt. Part of me just wants to bow straight out of it to avoid the worry alone. I wouldn't mind coming out to my manager before 12 weeks but there are so many people I'm meant to be meeting I don't know what I'd say to them, I wouldn't want the whole company knowing before 12 weeks.

Thanks for the link crackle, that's a really good thread. Thanks for the reassurance mrs simkins, that makes me feel more assured. My flights will be about 11 hours and I'm trying to figure out whether I'd do anything but worry for those 22 hours. Will mull it over a bit more, thanks for the advice ladies it really helps!

Hello ladies just a quick question but when do you think I should tell Uni I'm pg?

I've been umming and ahhing for the past week about it. I'm only 10 weeks now and I'm not telling any family until after the 12 week scan which is next Thursday.

Initially I was planning on waiting a few weeks so I was all settled and had found my place within the group however, there is a lot of assessed group work to be done that involves people relying on me to do things and be places etc etc so I'm wondering if I should come clean now so that things aren't arranged/expected of me that then have to be changed etc. I'm not sure if this will ever happen but I am dreading it happening just once and letting my team down.

Also more practically for now I had to sit for 2 and a half hours today in a seminar feeling like shite. I thought I was going to throw up constantly, the smell of coffee was so strong and I was uncomfortable and in pain. I just wanted to lean back, rub my tummy and comment about how sick I was feeling and I bloody couldn't.

Sorry for the rant/ramble I just not sure what to do!

Teapig,

I've just come back from the USA (flew at 10/11 weeks) and being neurotic looked into the risks. I couldn't find anything that said there was an increased risk of miscarriage - just that it would be a bugger to have it happen on a plane and that things like morning sickness might be a problem.

teapig that's a tough one...I think work would understand especially given the concern has come from your midwives, but perhaps you can get a second opinion. I would put your gut feeling first and not worry about the work aspect (easier said than done I know.) Could you attend the meeting on skype/webcam?

NCT was good for meeting people, although I didn't make life-long mum buddies, but we do meet up from time to time. Bump to Babe type antenatal classes are usually free but I'm not sure people are so committed to those, so you may not end up with a circle of friends from it. But the info is pretty similar, just nct is more pro breast-feeding and natural birthing. Personally I found labour a shock as I bought too heavily into the idea that "we don't use the word Pain, just intense".

I want to check I'm not being too pushy - I had a nurse pregnancy appointment at 8 weeks, and she said the MW would contact me after 10 weeks for the full booking appt. I'm now 10+5 and not heard a thing. I have the MW's number from last time and have been ringing it but no one's picked up (turns out she was on leave til today). So I left a voicemail this evening asking about my booking appointment.

Does that sound like I'm being too fretful or is it reasonable at this stage to expect at least a date for a booking appt if not even the appointment itself?!

Thanks caladria and looby. I checked the nhs website and they say there is a higher risk of mc in the first trimester with long-haul but if you're prgenancy is looking healthy there's no reason not to go. I've done loads of googling and find some sites that say it's totally safe and some that say it can be high risk. Ho hum, wish it was more clear cut.

Looby I don't think you're being unreasonable. I think booking in appointments usually happen between 8-10 weeks so no harm in following up to get yours fixed up.

Hi everyone well i felt really good today walked to town and back and cleaned the whole house thought the ms had cleared up.got to tea time and it was back now i feel awful really tired sick bloated and headache!on a better note 11 weeks today and 1 week until scan fells like forever but trying to keep busy. With regards to flying ive never done long haul but did do 4hour flight with 1st pg and everything was fine i didnt really no any of the risks but felt really well anyway,so suppose it depends how your feeling in your pg.

Teapig - You don't mention if youve told anyone at work. Just thinking that it may be a good idea to advise managers before you go so that company travel insurance is checked that you are covered, that they know where your maternity notes are in case of emergency & help you to rest as far as possible. Telling them will necessitate a risk assessment to be completed, but this is often a good thing.

Lastly, if your not going premium economy / first you may wish to request it on health grounds

Sorry to be gloomy but travelled loads with work

jacqueline it's a tricky one, if you think that the pregnancy is going to affect your ability to study/work or your attendance if mug be worth telling them. You can be careful about who you tell.

looby I think it's fair enough to ask!

steph get yourself an early night!

I feel rough tonight. After awful constipation I've swung the other way I'm not quite sure why. I also found when I we t it hurt my kidneys! I'm wondering if I've got anther UTI. I'll have to go to the doctors I think. I've had a bath and washed my hair and I'm snuggled up in bed now.

9+3

Hmmm. The nhs page here doesn't say anything about a higher risk of miscarriage from flying: www.nhs.uk/chq/Pages/927.aspx?CategoryID=54&SubCategoryID=133

Same here: www.nhs.uk/conditions/pregnancy-and-baby/pages/travel-pregnant.aspx

Actually I haven't told anyone at work doing, good point about the travel insurance. I really wanted the 12-week scan first but I might have to let my boss know.

Thanks or the links caladria, I think I completely misread the NHS stuff before. Just focused on the bit that says the risk of miscarriage is higher in the first 3 months and missed the bit before about it being regardless of travel.

I think part of my worry is the possibility of mc while I'm abroad on my own. My trip is during week 11/12, which is when I mc'ed in last pg. I know that doesn't mean a risk this time but it doesn't fill me with confidence at being away at that time. Still the NHS advice makes me feel better, I'm worrying about nout.

JaquelineHyde how about going to see Student Services first? They're great at my uni, and they are a confidential service (I assume at yours too?)

They should be able to advise you if telling them makes any difference, and they should also know what your rights are (something your tutors may not, especially in regards to placement).

teapig I was going to point you in the direction of the thread on flying, but I see somebody's already done it. I think your mw is a bit misinformed, as cabin pressure stays the same whatever altitude you're flying at. I would think the main issue would be, like you said, if you do have a problem and you're all alone overseas. If I were you I would inform work, and see what they would like to do. You definitely need to make sure you're covered by insurance just in case, as the last thing you'd want is to have a huge medical bill to pay.

Sorry to hear lots of us are still feeling so rubbish. Hopefully we'll all turn the corner soon

Had my nuchal scan and bloods today. Baby was extremely uncooperative, and after the sonographer spent ages explaining how she'd take a few nuchal fold measurements, and use the average, it took 40 mins of extremely painful prodding with the probe to get even one. I was on the verge of asking her to stop, and we would just go with what the bloods showed, when she finally managed it. Meant we got to have a good look at the baby wriggling around anyway Risk came back as 1:7381, so really good. Got a CD with all the ultrasound images on it, so I'm now the proud owner of pictures of my ovaries and cervix as well as the cute ones of the baby. Not entirely sure what to do with the ones of my insides, maybe I'll frame them and put them on display for visitors!!!

I also elected to another couple of vials of blood taken to participate in some research. They're essentially trying to see if it's possible to isolate enough fetal DNA from a maternal blood sample to be able to give a yes/no answer to whether there's a chromosomal abnormality, without needing to use amnio or CVS.

Insomnia back with a vengeance!

Teapig- much like everyone else has said. My mw said it was fine to go on our honeymoon to Thailand- just check travel insurance and wear flight socks.

As its now 'morning' my scan is officially tomorrow! Roll on!

Any bloat bump I had has disappeared- what do everyone else's tummies look like? I want my bloat bump back!!

teapig I am flying to Crete and back in the next couple of weeks. All advice I've taken says it's fine to fly in pregnancy and so are the airport scanners I might have to go through. Not 100% convinced about the second one but not a lot I can do about it!

So... I had my scan last night. For the most part it went really, really well. Baby has a head, arms, legs, and a heartbeat and it was lovely to see it! Also I go my date changed to 5th April so I am actually well past the 12 week marker without realising it! Glad to have made 5 days' progress without trying!

The bad thing is that they couldn't get the NT measurement. Baby was lying on its back and not keen to move despite my rolling onto my side, jiggling about etc. We are joking that we have a very zen baby, chilling with it arms folded! They also couldn't see much because of 'your very gassy tummy' though I do have IBS so presumably this is a factor!

Anyway, I have to have the blood test thing at my 16 week appointment instead but I think that's too long to wait. So we are going to have a look today into finding a private clinic that will do another scan and the NT and bloods and give results straight away. I think we're willing to pay for peace of mind at this stage.

Just had my downs risk through and it's 1:1717 which is higher than it was for DD but obviously I'm older this time (35)! I'm v pleased and can relax just a little bit more.
Also, I'm sure I've felt a bit of movement over the last few days. Just tiny twitches but always low in my pelvis. Anyone else?
13+3

Great to hear about everyone's positive scans and results.

EmpressMatilda in your shoes I would go private - we're pretty skint atm but I would still do it for the peace of mind, and if your risk did turn out to be high it's better to know sooner rather than later.

I'm a bit worried about the combined test.
Our risk last time was 1 in 18. It was a very scary week.

Hello everyone. I am in shock! Scan today went beautifully. One tiny,active baby measuring right for dates and everything. Thanks for the hand holding!

The consultant was lovely today; he was thorough; compassionate and patient. My uterus is so tipped back that I needed an internal scan. (At 12 +4!!!) No previa either so even if I do have a mmc, I can avoid the c section with high risk of hysterectomy.

Sorry for me me me ramble. I am posting on my phone.

I forget who mentioned travel to Thailand but I am living in Bangkok and cannot say enough about the healthcare. Sadly, we have used it too frequently including an emergency d&c last January for a miscarriage at 12 weeks...