Shagged Out Viroids Volume 4. Over here!!

[nickelbabe]

ooops, got a bit carried away there.....

sign in everyone!
let's hope we get some new graduates on here too!

Lansinoh is what you need, its expensive, but worth its weight in gold!

Seeing consultant on Monday, so hopefully he will agree to snip - mw seems to think it should work.

Maternity clothes are a nightmare! Useful if you can get some thAt double up as breastfeeding tops for after too

I know you use that for cracked nipples, don't you?

I was saddened when we went to an antenatal class, and there were two "guest couples", talking to us about their experience. and one of the ladies was saying that she couldn't breastfeed even though she wanted to, and was forced to formula feed because the baby had a tongue tie (and his was severe as well, so it would have been picked up and snipped straight away if she'd known what to ask!)
I was shocked that it hadn't been dealt with, and that she'd had to bottle feed, and obviously raised it as a question to the midwife lady.
I had to do that, because if it hadn't been for MN, i would have gone away believing that tongue tie meant no BFing.

I want to get some crossover type tops for feeding. (i don't normalyl suit them because i've got tiny boobs, but I'm hoping that the milk will give me ginormous bazongas! )

Hi everyone! Sorry I haven't been around, but I've been lurking. DS is still on his October holiday (back on Monday), so he's now been off for nearly 3 weeks because of his week off sick. I am going slightly mad as I'm tired all the time, and he's a total chatterbox bundle of energy! Anyway, it's DP's birthday tomorrow, and DS is really excited about that, so hopefully we'll have a nice day.

Glad you are all fine. Hope that the tongue tie problem will get sorted out Mightily. I'd never heard of that before![hblush]

Sorry you've felt abandoned nickel![hgrin] Hopefully we might have chocolate over from the JSing thread soon though.[hsmile]

thank god you've popped in!
poor old postgrads were having to entertain me!
Ooh, it'll be lovely to have chocolate over here. I've been over on the JS thread trying to recruit, but they're having a hard time of it :(

I'm wearing trousers today. they're not uncomfortable, but not comfy either
They're digging into my crotch (main reason I don't like wearing trousers in a sit-down job), and they're quite tight on the waist (except they're onlytight on the waist when I'm sitting down)
anad I feel like a right tramp because I normally only wear trousers when i#'m being scruffy! (even though these are rather smart trousers!)

[hgrin]

Maternity clothes are a real pain aren't they? I have some comfy tops from Next, but I also got jeans, and although they are quite comfy, the big stretchy bump band isn't adjustable, so I keep having to hoik them up! Hopefully I will grow into them and by 40 weeks they will fit like a dream![hgrin]

I keep lurking on the JS thread and feel so bad for them. I keep wanting to post and offer some support and hugs, but I don't quite know what to say. I hope they will all be over here en masse very soon.

that's how i feel too - I just can't comment in a big way, without sounding like i'm boasting about graduating. :(

I know. If I was still TTC, I know I wouldn't want a grad boasting about it, even though I know they would be trying to help and not being unkind at all.

I am counting down now until DP gets home from work, and then I'll have him here all weekend. We are going out as a family tomorrow, and then DS is staying with my mum in the evening so we can go for a meal together. Lovely. We had planned to go to a lovely Indian place, but Bean seems to object strongly to spicy food and gives me hiccups, so Italian it is!

Isbn seems to react strongly to all food!
(or at least the volume I eat )

I've been gettign through my Rennie's like sweets

Oh I know how you feel, but unfortunately all antacids make me feel worse than the actual indigestion (apart from Remegel which aren't too bad)! It's the texture of them - esp Gaviscon.

Ah well, DP nearly home now. We're having pizza tonight with coleslaw and tattie salad. Fab! Off now to cook something for DS.

Lansinoh is amazing as it stops you getting cracked nipples. Have read some people used it as lip balm during labour...think I will stick to my burts bees though

I still can't wear cross over tops. My boobs did get better, but seem to have settled down again. Mostly back in my old tops with feeding vests underneath. Otherwise I still wear a bump band under top, so when I lift it to feed there is no tummy flashing.

I could do with some nice feeding dresses though. I love wearing boots, tights and dresses in the winter.

Sorry about the tongue tie. For something I was told wasn't that common, I know a lot of people it has affected. One of my antenatal class had it but has still breastfed successfully.

*bigger not better Well maybe they were better!

the worst thing is, though, when I know I need to take something antacidy, i can taste rennie's in my mouth! It's like my body's going "i need mint stuff now!"

I don't mind flashing my tummy I did have bellydance class last night, and the leggings I'm using at the moment are Sainsbug's size 14 heifer pants, and every time I did a shimmy, or a figure 8, or moved my hips at all the bloody things fell down! I ended up spending most of the class hoicking them up again.
And not so elegant, because we were in the room with the mirrors, so all the way through the class, I could see how hideous it looked!

I have been lookign at feedingclothes - you know the ones that have concealed openings. And I've even seen a few patterns for making them. If only I could be arsed to do that!

a bit at my mum right now.
She forumla-fed all of us, after about 2 weeks, and she knows I want to BF.
She keeps making the comments about "if you fail", "if it doesn't work" etc, and I've told her I don't want to hear any negative comments, and that if a woman tells her she wants to BF, then she should give positive comments about it, not set us up for failure (adding a remark about the fact that's all she's ever done to me my whole life).
And then I said that I would BF until the child decides to finish (okay, not strictly true, it'll be a joint decision between me and the child) to which she was horrified citing "that programme where a 7-year-old was demanding a BF. I find it disgusting"
I told her that that's why we have mammory glands, and that it normal. It might not be usual buit it's normal, natural and certainly not disgusting!
She didn't make negative comments about either of my sisters' choices, so why should she about mine? (oh, that's because my sisters chose to FF)

Sorry about your mum . I have realised that people project their own experiences on to you.

Have had mil tell me her children only breastfed every four hours and for only ten mins each breast (subtext, you are feeding him too much). Fil, I have a friend who is a retired nurse and she said you can overfeed a breastfed baby (subtext, you are wrong). Also said ds was ruined, but I will realise and be more relaxed with my next child. Sil, nearly all mums I know have found giving formula in the evening makes their baby sleep through (subtext, why are you putting up with getting up in the night). Also had from lots of people, if ds was ff he would be able to stay away for the night I just ignore them now. Oh, a rant on here helps too!

There are problems that can and do occur with breastfeeding, but I think you are right that you need the determination and positivity to start with.

it's quite funny, because at first, i thought it was jsut because she was defending her own choice, which I would have no problem with, but then it became negative about my choice, and so I had to tell her straight.

Thankfully, I know a few women IRL who have breastfed successfully, and recommend it highly - 2 of 3 allowed the child to decide when it was time finish (one of whom's the oldest was 22 months iirc, and the other is still BFing, i think - he's not quite 3)(the one who stopped did so because she was fed up with it - after 6 months, but she was a feed on-demander, and had no probs with in public either.
I put it down to the way my mum is - why try something that might be hard when you can go for theeasy option?

I'm glad you had the confidence to set her straight. I don't know anyone outside my antenatal class that does or has bf (bar mil). I had an initial target of 6 weeks which I have moved to 6 months. Mostly because I like to have an end date if I'm having a bad day . Really helped in first few weeks to think I was half way etc.

You will do what feels right for you. Not long until little one arrives now!

confidence to set her straight
I spend most of my time with my mum setting her straight on a lot of thigns
I wish I didn't have to, but she does come out with some crap!

They've gone home now, so I'm feeling a bit sad.
(yes, even though I've spent the whole weekend thinking "please stop spouting crap and being generally annoying!")
yesterday, they had planned that we were going to have lunch at this pub, then we would take them back to our house so that we could have a restful afternoon (read: a bit of a nap while they talked among themselves!), but no! they then decided that they "didn't want to make you drive all that way and then back again" and made us spend the afternoon in their hotel room.
And then moaned at me because I tried to nap on their bed. And still tried to talk to me as I was trying to get off to sleep.
This is from a woman who's had 3 babies of her own, and is constantly going on about how tiring it was being pregnant!

glad yours is going well. :)

Morning people!

Your weekend with your parents sounds a bit stressful nickel, but I'm glad you had a nice time anyway. How was your dad? Is he fully recovered now?

Well done with the BF curiosity. I have a lot of respect for anybody who can BF as I found it just emotionally draining and was happy to switch to FF. I'm sure it will work out for you too nickel as you sound so determined.

Well, DS finally returned to school yesterday, just in time for me catching a stinking cold. I am now going to curl up on the couch with my new book and feel sorry for myself.

sooooo stressful

I think he's fully recoverd - he's acting like his usual self!

Are you going to try BF this time?

I had a dream that every time the baby moved, it was always with elbows or knees, and then the midwife confirmed that the baby's feet and hands on each side were fused together.

(ie the hand was fused to the foot)

That's a weird dream nickel. I have a recurring dream that I go to the loo and find I'm bleeding. It actually makes me quite paranoid, so I knicker-check quite a lot!

Glad your dad has recovered.

I don't know whether I will try to BF this time round or not TBH. I only managed just over one day with DS, and found it really stressful, but I suppose he would have got some benefit even for that short time. I know the FF guidelines have changed now though, which will make it quite faffy. I just don't know.

you'll do what you do on the day, i suppose. :)

i think my bump is lower than it was.