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We're now halfway and it's PMA all the way - Nov 2011

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cep · 28/06/2011 21:03

Halfway there now ladies. on the countdown.

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Caliphora · 04/07/2011 10:13

Just a quick butt-in (npi!) on the smoking issue:
I started smoking when I was 13. I've smoked for a majority of my life now. I love smoking, I know the harm it does to my body and my grandmother died of lungcancer.

When I found out I had a little Sprout inside me I went outside to clear my head in the fresh air. My first instinct was to have a cigarette. But knowing I had someone else depending on my oxygen supply, growing inside me and relying on me not poisoning myself somehow stopped me from lighting that cigarette.
I gave my packet of Royals to the guy standing next to me (it was outside Kingston Cinema), he looked confused, and walked down to tell DP.

I can't stand pregnant women smoking. It's the one thing I absolutely hate seeing. One of our friends who recently gave birth stood on my backstairs smoking at 38 weeks, and I just wanted to yell at her.
But, her choice unfortunately. There should be bloody laws against it!

kate393 · 04/07/2011 11:57

Morning all! Just doing sneaky catch up at work! Busy weekend (3 family birthdays and visiting friends in Cheshire) so not had chance to keep up to date with everyone for a few days!
Cali - sorry you had a crap day at work on Sat, hope the weekend got better after that.
Hi oneslice hope the scan went well today, did you find out flavour?
Just glad the headaches have eased off ? fingers x?d it continues!
Folic/Pam/Ziggi ? all this talk of cake is making me want to move to Edinburgh Grin
H007 great news about mortgage!
Have just started sleeping rubbish this last week, feel like I?m waking up every 5 mins, cant get comfy etc etc. Feel like I need a little power nap now, but supermarket calling in lunch break?.bleurgh!!! Really must start thinking about buying some bits now?.have got FIL working on some shelving in nursery but need to get a new window in there (very draughty at mo as we never had that window replaced when we moved in as it was only a spare room!) Got given a lovely bag of clothes on Friday though by some friends whose baby was too big for newborn stuff and so it never got used!!! Bonus! So cute, but slightly scary when you see how small everything is . Oh and I cant remember who posted it now but I though the Next jungle stuff was so lovely too.

Truffkin · 04/07/2011 12:01

Good morning ladies, I spent some time catching up on posts yesterday evening but had no energy for posting!

Welcome LKane, nice to have a new joiner to the group!

Also to you OneSlice and I can add to the high BMI conversation as I was referred to a consultant at my 11 week booking appointment as my BMI was on the cusp of 30. There were a couple of other things as well (I'm strep B positive and asthmatic - sound like a right old crone Grin don't I!) but it was all fine at the appointment. We talked about my asthma, which is well controlled and not presentinga problem so she was happy about that. Also, I'm clear on what the Step B thing means and the consultant just talked me through how the IV anti-biotics would work. We talked about my BMI and she was again comfortable that although the stats show me in the high risk category, there was nothing to be overly worried about as my mobility is not affected and in her words 'I'm looking at you and not seeing an 'obese' person in front of me' So I got referred back to midwife care and have all of my future appointments with my community midwife. My main concern is that my strong preference for birth is to use the midwife-led birthing centre, rather than the labour ward (just personal choice) and this can be impacted by a high BMI. The consultant explained that I will have a meeting at 34 week to check whether they think it is 'safe' for me to be in the birthing centre (other checks as well as BMI) and if everything else stays low risk, she will support my choice. I do have to have a glucose tolerance test (GTT) at 26 weeks to check for gestational diabetes and this will be one of the big hurdles for me to jump. If it is clear, I stay low risk but if I have GD then all hopes for a birth centre delivery will be out of the window - keeping my fingers tightly crossed!

Cookie I had to self-refer to the hospital I am using (my GP doesn't do referrals) and they wrote to me to give me my first scan and booking appointments. Since then I have made my next appointment before leaving that one (if that makes sense!) and as I'm back to the midwife, I even have a consultant appointment pencilled in for when I am 40+6 (hoping I don't need it) to talk about induction......

Moosey with regards to pushchair shopping, I am struggling to narrow it down and think I really need to go somewhere that has a good selection so I can compare side by side! We did pop to a place on Saturday where they stock the cot I was thinking of buying (Amby nest) and we had a little push around. DH really liked the Pilko Pramette but we have since heard some negative feedback from people who've had it before. I LOVE the Stokke Xplory, but it's £1000 so DH is gulping a bit about that, it does have great reviews though. I think the Silver Cross surf is coming a close second at the moment, but I haven't had a play with either of them in the flesh so to speak. We might take a trip to Brent Cross this weekend as the Mamas & Papas stock the Stokke and John Lewis the Silver Cross.

Cep I will PM you to join the Facebook group. KnockedUp I will PM you to 'make friends' on there too!

Bumps you have a very clever little DS there! Your new baby will have a good role model to learn from. How cute.

JustStarting I know what you mean about feeling movement, I don't think I have felt anything to date (20+3 today) and lots of people are telling my I should have. I was really nervous on Saturday before our scan but the sonographer was lovely and said it is quite normal to not feel anything until 23 weeks, especially in a first pregnancy - phew!

PamSco the smoking whilst pregnant thing bugs me too. I smoked beforehand and was lucky enough to be able to give up immediately when I got the positive HPT. My sister however, really struggled when she was pregnant with my nephew and didn't manage it completely until after her 12 week scan. I do think that by this stage it should be something that every pregnant woman does. It's not like the odd drink or eating certain things where the advice is conflicting! Everyone agrees without exception that smoking is one of the most harmful things you can do to your unborn child. Seriously, the guilt for me would be enough to take all of the pleasure out of it! I do understand that it's difficult to just stop overnight, but by 20 weeks I think it's doable, especially if you have planned your baby and with the great support available from the NHS these days.

Voodoo I hope the journey today is not too much of a pain. Make sure to have plenty of cold drinks (and associated wee stops Grin planned in)

H007 great news about your mortgage being approved, that's one weight off your mind! Hope everything else slots into place now.

Wuzz that's a great pram, I love the lime colour. The reason I think I've been attracted to the ones I like is because of the great colour choices. I love bright colours for babies and so am put off the ones that only come in black or grey etc. We won't be doing any nursery decorating as we will be moving house shortly after the baby arrives (eek!) and relocating back to the Midlands from London. It's nice that it's one last thing to do but also means we will have to make all of those decisions afterwards once we've moved.

So we had our 20 week scan on Saturday and thankfully my nerves were totally uneccessary as everything is fine! Baby measuring perfectly for our dates, moving around giving us a great show of kicking and punching and we got some great pictures as a result. The sonographer was just lovely and spent time showing us the spine, face, legs and arms and reassuring us that everything looks fine. My Mom was staying for the weekend so she came in to see the baby on the screen too, she was suitably teary as a grandmother would be! I really wanted to go out any buy something afterwards but think we aren't ready to buy a 'coming home' outfit just yet and got totally confuddled by the prams on display in the shop we went to so needed to conduct a bit more research before making any decisions! I think we have decided against the Amby nest though as it is much smaller than I thought in real life and wouldn't last longer than 3-4 months for an average sized newborn. Am now thinking of getting one of those wooden rocking cribs for the first few months and then a normal cot for when the baby moves into his/her own room.

We have decided that we will spend this coming weekend sorting out one of our chests of drawers to make available for baby things. It will be a good opportunity for me to store away some of my normal clothes as my sister brought a load of her maternity stuff with her at the weekend and I bought a couple of work things so can re-stock my wardrobe but with a more capsule collection for the coming 4-5 months. I think feeling a bit more organised will help me to get my head round what other things we need to do. I keep thinking 'oh it's ages away, I don't need to think about that yet' but realise that the longer I procrastinate for, the more we will need to cram into the last few months when I might not be feeling as up for it Grin

So, apologies for my mammoth post but there was an awful lot to catch up on. Hope everyone can enjoy the sunshine at some point today and here's to a good week with lots more lovely scan news and pram chat!

Ziggimajiggi · 04/07/2011 13:22

Hi there my lovely hot mammas!

Sorry about the long silence...I ddn't get a wink of sleep on Tuesday night and have been barely surviving the week at work. The my wonderful Mum was up from Liverpool over the weekend. Went to bed at 5 pm yesterday (yes! 5pm!) and thought that would do the job, but at 2am someone's house alarm kept going off and then stopping and going off again - ALL NIGHT. Basically I wanted to scream into my pillow and am still knackered nearly a week later. Rarrrrrrrrrr!
Angry
Early bed again for me tonight.

Well my scan went great...we are team blue :) But we've only told our parents, so it will be a surprise for everyone else.

Pam Our scan was at 12.05, and as we were waiting a lady came out, very tearful and they told her that her baby wasn't growing properly. DH and I thought 'Oh how sad...etc' but on the way out about 45 minutes later...she was still sitting outside and smoking! No need for clues as to why the baby isn't growing as much as it could.
TBH I used to smoke, but the minute we even thought about having a baby I stopped...it is hard, but for me there was no other choice.

Pam Folic Poppet and Knocked up and anyone else who fanices it Wink
I'm crazy busy at the minute, but how about a wee meet up the last weekend in July or on 1 August? There are plenty of wonderful cake places to choose from...wouldn't mind where at all :)

Went to try and buy maternity gear yesterday and felt like crying at the mainly hideous gear available on Princes Street. Gave up, went home and bought nice dress from Isabella Oliver in the sale.

It is lovely to hear all the news.

PMA: 3 months until I start my maternity leave and a minimum of 5 until bed!

Promise smaller post tomorrow
xxx
Ziggi

Ziggimajiggi · 04/07/2011 13:24

5 hours that is, it had better not be 5 months until I get a sleep!

Caliphora · 04/07/2011 13:56

On my way to another late shift - I asked for a change of shifts three weeks ago, but hey, I've been told the forms are in the post to HR.

Three months until mat leave here, too! Oh if I could only afford not to work them. I qualify for MA now, so technically I don't HAVE to work. Unless we want to eat, that is.
I can't wait for DP's ex wife to get her thumb out and agree to sell the rudding house he's still paying morgtgage for :(

MooseyMoo · 04/07/2011 13:58

Wuzz No, I won't be co-ordinating, well intentionally anyway. The nursery has jungle stickers by Wee Gallery which are gorgeous but just black and the walls are green. DD loves them but wanted to get her something more colourful. I have bought an owl cushion which DD loved when we were in a shop on hols.

DD is still sleeping in sleeping bags and I just get them on special so they never match her room. Current one is from Green Baby (and is still half price)

The walls in her new room are off white and the curtains are a patterned light brown. So it vaguely matches but it wasn't my plan IYSWIM.

Love the pram btw, especially the rain cover. V cool.

Folicacid · 04/07/2011 14:59

is this too dark?

This is the current colour of what will be the baby's room. We're wondering if we should paint it a more traditional neutral colour. It was only painted less than a year ago. I keep thinking it's fine and we'll get some light wall stickers and the furniture all white, but then I wobble and think let's paint it a lighter colour. OH says it is no problem to repaint so I should make sure I'm happy with what I decide, he's happy either way.

I'm completely undecided.

Be honest, be brutal. I won't mind either way.

Folicacid · 04/07/2011 15:01

And sleeping bags or cellular blankets? Totally unsure too...

Poppet45 · 04/07/2011 15:52

Folic I love that colour, DS's room is an even darker teal and we've covered it with lovely stars and planets from this guy. Hope DD will like them :S maybe she'll run NASA one day?
We got loads of sleeping bags but DS hated them, he needed to be swaddled til he was a good 4 months, then loved, loved loved Peke Moes (google it) they're perfect for rubbish sleepers. Apart from that we used cellular blankets, and then when he was 14 months or so he was old enough for a baby duvet. Should really get him a pillow now too. Between all that nothing really coordinates.
Edinburgh types would love to do a meetup and those dates sound fine provisionally - if it's a weekend I can even ask DH to have DS for an hour or two so I can actually have a peaceful cuppa and slice of cake without having to chase him around whichever cafe we go to. Bless him he can be very good (even better before he could walk Grin) but all bets are off if he's tired and grouchy and or hyper, he has such a thing for chucking himself down the stairs at Joseph Pearce's, and let rip with the most mahoosive tantrum in John Lewis' that I think we emptied most of the cafe recently. I'm really selling toddlers aren't I?

MooseyMoo · 04/07/2011 16:36

Folic I love that colour. Would have had blue walls but the nursery doesn't get any sun so thought it might make it look/feel too cold. You could do a sea theme Grin

When DD was newborn we had sheets, and when cold we added a cellular blanket (blanket also used for the pram). We put her in sleeping bags when she moved into the cot in a seperate room (they have a minimum weight stated on them so not to be used for newborns). Worked really well for us, so much so that I have no idea when I should stop using sleeping bags!

Funny how newborns/babies are completely different Confused I would suggest getting sheets/blankets first and them move onto sleeping bags when baby is heavy enough for them. The cheapest ones I found were from Tesco and are still in really good condition. They just don't do larger sizes than 6-12 months.

PamSco · 04/07/2011 16:38

"but all bets are off if he's tired and grouchy and or hyper, he has such a thing for chucking himself down the stairs at Joseph Pearce's, and let rip with the most mahoosive tantrum in John Lewis' "

Poppet is that DH or DS Wink

neverinamillionyears · 04/07/2011 17:07

Hey all. It's great reading everyone's good news. Pam you must be so relieved, I was bed get happy to hear your results. Caz, great fund raising absolutely superb.

Things are shitty not great at home, in fact I stayed in a hotel last night. Not great today so I thought I'd treat myself to some decorating. Marvellous.

Anyway, I have to mention the pram I'm thinking of going for which is the Joolz Day. Not mamas & papas one but the newer one. Thinking of red for either boy or girl. Any thoughts.

neverinamillionyears · 04/07/2011 17:31

Would anyone else care to join me in a mahoosive glass of Wine

Bluetinkerbell · 04/07/2011 17:41

never I'll join you Wink as I can have one, I managed to get through my sister's hen do with the help of lots of Wine

I'm glad that with most of you the pregnancies are going to plan! keep it up Wink
I've started taking 'mum to be' vitamins and folic acid last week, now waiting for my period... Bought some condoms today, once I had 2 (or even just 1) period, we will start trying again and hopefully by the time you all start to pop I might be pregnant again :)

neverinamillionyears · 04/07/2011 17:50

Hey Blue, Cheers! Hic

Condoms....Mmmmm I bet they go out the window (not literally if it'll scare the neighbours) pretty quickly as you are already wavering :) You sound like such a positive and brilliant thinking person I do wish you a whole world of luck. Weeeelll I'm talking like I'm drunk already! I luuuurve you all, I really do you are my beshtest friend.Grin

TwoJackRussellsandabean · 04/07/2011 18:00

Fingers crossed Blue that all goes to plan!!!

I was going to invite myself along to the Edinburgh meet up as am only in Perth so easy to get there on the train, but have the first NCT class that Sat, but maybe if it all goes well I could come along to the next one, pretty please?

Bluetinkerbell · 04/07/2011 18:08

hehe never you made me chuckle! only 24 condoms, and I'm not buying any more! Gosh they're expensive! I'm also wondering how long DH will last Wink we only used a condom once before and that was our first time Grin We bought a variety pack Blush I felt such a teenager buying them, as they were secured in a box, I mean you can't even buy condoms discretely! That was in Sainsbury's btw, same with pregnancy tests. Must be so scary when you are actually a teenager to buy those things!

neverinamillionyears · 04/07/2011 18:19

How about luminous ones. You could do star wars as foreplay.Hmm

CazandBelle · 04/07/2011 18:21

ah blue I must admit all this talk about condoms have made me smile! We've rarely used condoms either, first time we did the deed it broke (and because I was on the pill at the time too) we thought there was no point after that... There is a box in DH's drawers (that is probably out of date they've been there that long!) that we had there for times like me on antibiotics or whatever but I think we've only used one out of the box! DH 'doesn't do condoms' - sounds like a teenager doesn't he! Almost forgotten what sex is like anyway. Have more in my dreams than I do in real life at the moment!!

I can't wait to hear about your next bfp blue

Caliphora · 04/07/2011 18:46

All this talk about condoms, indeed!
I don't know what to do after Sprout, I don't want a second one for a few years, and I refuse to go on the pill. DP has never used a condom, so I'm not sure what to do ( I hate them too)
We were just so set on happy accidents for the last 6 years that we never used any protection!

juststarting · 04/07/2011 18:55

Evening all. So, midwife appointment today, only my second one, and the first one she has done a urine sample with - turns out there is blood and protien in my urine. Got to do another one to send up to the hospital. Bit grumpy about that. Dont want to have to have antibiotics cause they ALWAYS make me ill one way or another. Whole appointment was about five minutes. Blood pressure, urine, heartbeat, your headaches are hormonal, tough, come back in four weeks. Ah well. Scan on thursday.
We're lucky, my mum is really artistic so we have a big beach mural on one wall of my son's room (I had jungles and things like a chest of drawers painted like a double decker bus with all different people in and stuff when I was little and loved it. And even as a tiny child always appreciated that it was unique and made for me by my parents) and the rest of the room is a light blue to kind of just continue the sky from the mural. Furniture is white. I like the white cause I feel like it brings out all the other colours more strongly - mind you we only have a chest of drawers anda cot in there, and an arm chair which is cream and we got off freecycle. When we move him to the spare room I dont know what we'll do decor wise. Nice to think we could reflect his interests now he is a little person, but I really dont want a room painted with buses and cars and motorbikes to be honest. I was hoping for something like jungle or farm or fish or garden. Still, we'll see. I wouldnt worry about too dark at first - we dont spend much time in there when not trying to go to sleep, in which case you want dark, or changing a nappy, in which case, you're not really looking at the colour of the walls so much as the colour of the poop. I like that colour Folic but I probably wouldnt choose it because I like light. I love strong colours in most contexts but when it comes to walls and carpets, my main aim is to keep it looking as light as I can - without ALWAYS using white!
Tough day, now feeling like a bloated gas bag and just want to lie down for a bit but ds appears to be being extra needy tonight and daddy wont do. Still, he is being distracted by food right now.
And yes, as for the smoking thing, cant abide it. I KNOW i do stuff that isnt ideal - take lots of paracetamol, eat more crap and less fruit than I should, and I KNOW its really really hard for some people to quit, but I cant help looking at people smoking with their big pregnant bellies (or wives) or tiny kids at fag holding height and feeling dismayed and disgusted. But then, I feel the same when I see people buying non-free range eggs, and I am a complete hypocrite there because while I would never dream of buying battery eggs, I buy stuff that has them IN like cakes and biscuits, all the time. Likewise with the smoking, I never smoked, I've never had to give up. Who knows where I would be if I had started. I am so glad I never started. Mind you, I always thought it looked stupid rather than cool.
Ooh I missed a load of stuff typing that out! Condoms - we always used them (apart from when we were pretty damn confident I wasnt in a fertile phase. We just liked them better than chemical means - plus, way easy to clean up afterwards! But no, not the most romantic of things. And blanket s- we used cellular blankets for as long as we were swaddling, which was ages, then sleeping bags, which work great for us.

Onesliceortwo · 04/07/2011 18:56

Hi there! Thank you for the warm welcome and friendly information about the consultant appointment - you've made me feel much more 'normal' rather than the freak I was beginning to feel like! Scan went well today - baby was a pickle and curled itself up into a tight ball - pretty difficult to see anything! We didn't want to find out whether we're blue or pink - which is a good job really as I think that might have been one job too many for the sonographer!
We're off out for some tea in a minute - think it might be the last warm and dry evening for a while down here - forecast is awful (although it's well timed - I've secretly got my fingers crossed that we can cancel sports day tomorrow - shh, don't tell!) Hope you are all well, enjoy your evenings!

Folicacid · 04/07/2011 19:44

Quick catch up on phone. never that sounds shit, are you at home tonight? Things sorted?

Edinburgh meet up or merry up as my phone made it the last time, we'll need a reserved table at this rate. Exciting.

Im loving the sound of a hand painted mural, pity I can barely colour in Wink

Any recommendations for cellular blankets? I bought my bf a twin pack from John Lewis for about twenty ish pounds but I'm sure can get cheaper.

Folicacid · 04/07/2011 19:47

And thanks moosey!

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