We're now halfway and it's PMA all the way - Nov 2011

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Halfway there now ladies. on the countdown.

Pam I hate to be the voice of doom......but I'm going to be anyway! Your returning MS might be your gallstones rather than MS. I thought that I had MS for the whole nine months of my first pg......but it didn't go away after the birth, and only stopped after I had my gallbladder surgery. Having said that, the source of your nausea doesn't really matter much, because it doesn't matter if it's coming from the baby or from your gallbladder, you will feel just as sick either way. Sorry.

On the 'business time' issue. I am another who finds pg makes me really want, er, more business! In fact, DH has admitted to pretending to be asleep when he actually wasn't, as he couldn't keep up with my, er, needs.

I know what you mean Snoozle could be either causing the sickness but the pattern is the same as the early ms retch retch sneeze sneeze. I didn't have gall issues then - well I don't think I did.

I don't have gallstones as such it is sand and I suspect it is a reaction to the hormone levels. I guess time will tell :) my fingers are crossed that it is ms and pma is forcing me to keep thinking that. Had no contact with the hospital since the MRI scan 2 weeks ago. Hohum.

Oh and my mam had ms through all 9m of her 4 pregnancies, horrible to watch when you are a wee child.

Hi all, can i join you here!

I am due on the 2nd december and the december threads here appear to have died a death! I had my 20 week yesterday and i am having a little girl!!

Hehehehe! Absurbly happy just to know!

afternoon ladies, sorry been absent last couple of days, have been busy making blinds for the kitchen, not quite finished yet but not too far off now.

laurasmurf welcome and congratulations on being team pink.

can't remember who asked but i didn't see an answer, swi is shagging with intent. Which we are so not, not only am i not in the mood but dh and i have been having problems and half the time to be honest he's lucky he's still in the same bedroom.

We never did nct it was too expensive and dh moaned at going to the free nhs ones at the time anyway, so can't imagine what he'd have said if i'd suggested paying for them. He doesn't want to go at all this time either.

buffy glad you're feeling a bit better.

bump how are you feeling now a days??

Thanks cep I wasn't sure if SWI was some wierd kinky thing I was too young to know about!!!

Nothing else to add from yesterday, just saying hello! Big hugs to you all who are feeling sick whether its ms or not

Off shopping with MIL now for a maxi dress for a wedding reception next weekend. (Can't being myself to buy a nice maternity dress to wear once!) Sure I may pick up a few babyu bits too!

stacex

at snoozle's DH pretending to be asleep!!

Hello all. Hope weekend is going well. We're having a good day so far. Took DD to softplay to try to get her ok to go on the big slides by herself. When the baby comes, I won't be able to go after her with the baby!
She did really well though, she's quite a shy, unconfident thing sometimes.

I won't be doing antenatal classes, though did them with pg no1 on nhs and they were ok. After DD was born by pure chance I bumped into one new mum from the classes in asda and she invited me along to the local baby cafe. Changed my life! There is now a group of 8 of us who are good friends with 2 and 3 year olds. 3 of us are pg again - all due around the same time, so with DD, zoo membership and my friends, I reckon we'll be ok.

Now Trafford Centre meet - when and where? I can do an afternoon ( around 2pm) or we could do a weekend but I'd have to bring DD in that case. Any suggestions? Worst case, we could all meet once popped and on mat leave!

Hi all

I am very close to the Trafford Centre so would love to come along if you are arranging a meet. Trouble is the school holidays start in a week and have 6 weeks of joy with my 2 exhausting boys to look forward to!

Have been really busy as DH is building a garden at the RHS Tatton Show - it's a Manchester United garden so the boys may be in the press next week as it is attracting a lot of attention - fingers crossed for a medal and some nice new business generated by it!

My stomach is getting big by the evenings now and I have put on about 1.5 stone so am feeling heavy, but well.

Hope everyone is well

Anyone else into nesting yet? With DS I did bugger all. Nada. This time I'm hanging pictures up, getting new light fittings, retouching paint on walls, just bought some more to paint the bathroom and a feature wall in the lounge (not entirely sure how I'll manage that on my own with a toddler spectating and keen to help) and knitting hats and a blanket. Is this the influence of some helpful daughter hormones as opposed to gorgeous, but somewhat indolent son ones?
As for 'the deed'. Oh dear, we've probably done it three or four times since I peed on a stick! I just find it really mentally discomforting. However I'm taking PamSco's words of advice to heart and may well try a bit more if the benefits are so good. Someone suggested SWI as a weight loss plan for after the birth that didn't quite work out for us. Even after a c section the deed is terrifying for the first few times after you have your baby, and well your post baby body is just so vastly different you might not feel as alluring as you once did, plus I find my boobs are a total no go zone when I'm bfing - and I bfed our son for 22 months, and then, well DS didn't sleep through for 16 months so if me and DH ever found ourselves in bed at the same time - with neither having to rock or pace or sing to DS, well we tended to like to be unconscious. Can think of v few animal species where the male is pestering the female for nooky when it's pregnant or dealing with a newborn. Guess it's our hypersexualised culture. Personally I kind of like the African tradition that a new mum or indeed any nursing mum should be left the hell alone! And me and DH did used to have a very physical relationship we've even broken a bed in our time, it's just not that time for us these days.

Poppet you're giving me a complex! Your words make sense but when I had DD (by c-section) DP and I did the deed 4 weeks after she arrived

I am clearly abnormal!

poppet hehe, you're not alone with breaking a bed . we collaped one (it was really really old and rickety in our defence!) and broken the slat in another. needless to say I'll only trust divan type beds now!

feeling enormous the last few days and everything is becoming a huge effort, getting up and down off sofa, in and out of bed, rolling over etc. I just want to sit still and not move!!!

Hips are giving me lots of gip climbing stairs too and lying on one for any length of time results in pain. Feeling like a creaky old woman!

Hello ladies,

It's been a while, I've been in Mexico for 2 weeks and nearly missed a whole thread in that time! I've been reading through and it's exciting to hear about more boys & girls being identified! It's good to read about the purchases being made too. We're hardly buying anything for the baby, but we've started to receive the first hand me downs, there's now a rocking crib in our room from a lovely friend of ours and my mum's storing all of my sisters stuff for us until the baby's about to arrive as I'm a bit superstitious.

The only things we need to buy are a mclaren techno (ebay) and some toiletries I think! Actually, we did buy an Ikea kitchen just before going away - that was mega exciting. It arrives in August at the same time as our three tenants move out, I can't wait, have a nesting urge already to make everything nice and fresh.

Mexico was great, bit bloody hot in places and I didn't have the vaccinations so was being really reserved in what I ate which got quite boring, and unhealthy actually as I couldn't eat peeled fruit or anything that wasn't steaming hot. Going to fill up on fruit and veg now we're back! Still, fingers crossed have avoided catching any nasty lurgies while we were there.

Baby is definitely getting bigger which is nice, I'm in the not much movement camp. I think maybe coz the placentas on the front it dulls the feeling?! I can certainly feel some stamping on bladder every now and then. Also, when I go to bed I can't resist lying on my back and that seems to generate movement, like the giblet is getting squashed and shifts to lie across the bottom of my stomach. It's certainly not regular tho, or it may just be that I'm not very observant. Trying not to obsess about anything tho.

Am 24 weeks now - officially 'viable' this week! Nice! And only 13 weeks of work to go :D

smiiling glad you had a good holiday

ali hope you find somewhere for a lovely English holiday

buffy glad you are feeling better, hope it continues

pam & H007 I too have had ms return (though it never fully left - have had constant nausea). I am back to eating small portions & often. I think it to do with baby pushing everything up and thus leaving little room for the stomach!!!

I too am in the not much business time; DP & I normally go through "stages" of a lot then very little and we are a very little (if at all)- think it is more me not feeling in the mood and ms doesnt help either :(

cep thanks for asking; I'm having good and bad days at the moment & strongly suspect GP will suggest meds when I see her next as things haven't improved drastically. The past 2 weeks I have been getting increasing groin/hip pain which I've been told is likely to be SPD and is making movement increasingly difficult; have an appt with MW on Fri re: pain & am hoping she will refer me for physio (suggested by the physio who runs my aqua class). Between my mood, pain and baby kicking I am spending a lot of time awake at might - this lessens my tolerance of pain and is making me feel increasingly low in energy!!

Sorry about the moan....just realised how negative I have been - I am having some good days though where we go out buying baby bits & spending time with DS :)

At 23+6 today, I have realised this week is the week I found I was pregnant with DS - had scan dating my 23+6 as had no dates (regular spotting throughout!!). This has made me realise how much of my pregnancy with DS I missed but has also made me feel as though I still have so long left this time round. I cannot believe how different the pregnancies have been either; with DS, despite being young & high risk of complications, I had an easy pregnancy (no ms, no insomnia, no low mood, no pain) and didn't want it to be over - though was happy to have a safe baby at the emd. Whereas this time I have had such a hard time that I cannot wait until November is here

Dawny! Cake! Yay! I was starting to think I was the only one in the NE. I live about 10 miles from Newcastle.

bump that would make a lit of sense as when I stand up I have a rock hard area in-between my ribs and my wibbley belly which I presume is organs all moved up!

Southeners as for our cake meeting I would suggest that between Wales, Bristol, Swindon, and Reading area that Bristol or Bath are the mid points? With Bristol being the easier? Could always meet at that shopping centre near the motorway.... I don't mind anyone got any other ideas? Anyone else want to join us? I'm happy wherever we meet really just want to make it within a hourish drive of everyone who'd like to come

Welcome LauraSmurf and welcome back smilingcl!

Thanks for all your advice and re-assurance regarding movement. I feel some teeny flutters again and though not the boots I was getting before I am thankful for them. I guess my womb just expanded and baby has more room again. It did seem very early to feel such activity as it started at 18+3!! Hey maybe it was just gas

Poppet, yes we are nesting! We are getting a new kitchen before LO arrives (in August fingers crossed, did someone mention they were getting one then too recently?) get all the mess and inconvenience out of the way asap. Having the hall stairs and landing done too plus the nursery of course. Also planning to go through all the cupboards and have a good clear out in the next few months. We still don't seem to have found an orderly place for everything since we moved in a year ago!

Have a great Sunday x

sunshine we are deciding on kitchens at the mo, we are going for a refurb rather than a new one so fingers crossed it is a quick job.

Got my first hypnobirthing class today, very excited.

For Manchester ladies - I for one don't mind you bringing LO's along, but if it's too much hassle to have coffee with them (I can imagine it being hard to entertain them for that long and not lose them to the surroundings) we can wait :)

Up to you guys!

And now I'm off to the mat unit to have a listen to Sprout's heart.
Since I started taking the fluoxetine the movement (which was regular from 20 weeks) has decreased over the past days, to nothing at all in the past 20 hours. So, at 24+6 I'm not taking any chances!

Best of luck Cali

Good luck, Cali, hope everything's fine.

I've also felt fewer movements over the past week or two, having felt loads at 18 weeks-ish for a while. I guess it makes sense that it's because uteruses grow and bump's got more space now than he did a couple of weeks ago. I only ever feel anything down and to the right as well, not all over.

My "bump" (still covered in plenty of me) seems to be really low still. So I've ended up with a double bump, with what I'm assuming is shoved-out-the-way organs and so on all squished up top, and then my actual bump which has plenty of space to fill down below! Bodies never do what you expect them to do, do they??

Speaking of which my back is killing me today, so going to have a sit down and a nice cup of tea...

Yes I have the double bump too! I only feel to left, though did have a period of feeling only to the front for a bit before it went quiet. All very low down.

Good luck Cali, thinking of you!

Hooray! Two other 'double bump people'! I was just looking at mine earlier - the bottom half seems llower and wobblier than ever and the top bit is rock solid - totally and utterly bizarre! I've just put it down to the fact that there is a fair whack of me! In fact - if I look at it side on - it looks like a B shape - not the beautiful smooth bump of women in the magazines!

Hope all is well Cali - hope all is well.

cali hope all is ok.

my belly seems to have pushed up as well, so my "spare tyre" is higher and bigger but normal belly is just a horrible and wobbly. to me it makes me look a bit pg now though, although to everyone else just makes me look fatter. i got a raised eyebrow the other day when i mentioned to dh it made me look pg.

sunshine sorry i meant to mention this yesterday. baby's movement totally stopped just around the 20/21 week mark, mw said it was due to uterus having a big grow so baby wasn't near walls anymore. now a couple weeks on it still feels like the little rolls i used to have at the start of movement but they are getting stronger and more frequent again.