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NurseSunshine · 12/06/2011 22:17

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79monica · 29/06/2011 14:29

Ethan's fast asleep and so I thought that I would post my birth story (although it happened quite a while ago now!) before I start to forget bits of it. Apologies in advance because it is long and a bit traumatic.

Monday 23 May was the start of my final week at work before having 2 weeks holiday and then starting my maternity leave on my due date of 13 June. That morning I had a MW appointment first thing at home so that she could check where the baby was going to be sleeping, my birth plan etc.

Since the previous Tuesday (36 weeks + 1) I had been having some rib pain and back ache between the shoulder blades. I assumed that this was due to being in the final month of my pregnancy and that the baby was just growing and everything was getting squashed. I had had a really busy week at work and had been working some long hours and so I put the back ache down to a bit of stress and sitting in one position at my computer for too long. The pain had been quite bad even with paracetemol. Sunday 22 May was my birthday and friends and family had been popping in all day for cake and during the early evening I had to leave them with DH and go to bed with a hot water battle because the pain was getting too much.

At 9.30am the MW arrived. As soon as she asked how I was I started crying and told her about the pain. She agreed with me that it was probably a combination of the baby growing and a bit of stress and said that I could see my GP to get some stronger painkillers if I couldn't manage on just the paracetemol. Then we took some time to go through my birth plan (as active a labour as possible, minimal intervention and drugs, all taking place in the MLU). At around 10am we went upstairs to see where the baby would be sleeping and she tested my urine sample. She paused and told me that I had a result of +2 and that this was really high and she was going to need to double check the procedure for what action she needed to take next. She said that before she did this she might as well check my blood pressure too and when she took that she just said that she needed to call the hospital straight away. At the time she didn't tell me what my BP was but my GP has since told me that it was dangerously high (I can't remember the numbers - I'm a bit rubbish with BP). The maternity wing told her that I needed to come straight in and that I had to come in an ambulance, not in anyone's car. My MW told me to ring DH while she called and ambulance.

I was sobbing from the minute she took my BP because I knew that the signs were that it was pre-eclampsia. When I called DH all I could say was that I had to go to hospital and that he needed to come home straight away and then just started sobbing again. My MW was brilliant, very calm through everything. She kept saying that the hospital would probably just check me out and send me home again but that there was a small chance that I might be having my baby today and so I should take my hospital bag with me (she has since told me that she knew there was no chance of me being sent home before I had the baby but she was trying to keep me calm). I was worried that I hadn't finished packing my hospital bag but all of the things I hadn't put in were the nice to have things for labour (CDs, TENs machine etc). The MW told me not to bother about those things so I just chucked in a few more clothes and was all packed within a couple of minutes.

A first response paramedic arrived in a car and had to take my BP and then tried to get some blood samples and put a canular in. He couldn't do either because he couldn't get to any of my veins. This was really unpleasant - I don't deal with blood tests or even BP checks very well, I feel very ill and had only ever had 2 blood tests before this day (both since I became pregnant) and so I was sobbing throughout this.

DH and the ambulance arrived at about the same time. My MW told me that DH was not allowed to drive me to the hospital because my BP was so high they were worried that I would have a fit during the journey and so I had to be in the ambulance. DH had to drive himself and I went in the ambulance with the two paramedics who managed to get a canular in before we started driving (with blue lights and sirens!) In the rush I forgot my maternity notes and so my MW had to bring them out from the house to the ambulance.

When I arrived at hospital I was taken to the High Dependency Unit and was immediately had a belt put round me so that they could monitor the baby and started taking blood samples. DH arrived a few minutes after me. There were several MWs and doctors in my cubicle and they told that I had pre-eclampsia but that they also thought that I might have something called HELLP syndrome and that they needed to do blood tests to confirm this. I could hear one of the doctors on the phone to the lab on the other side of the ward shouting my name and telling the lab that they needed to get the results back really urgently. In the meantime a MW helped me get all of my clothes off and get into a hospital gown and then put a catheter in. They told me that my baby would definitely be delivered that day, but the question was how best to do it. Normally they would go for CS but if I had HELLP syndrome one of the symptoms is having very low platelet levels which would mean that I would have trouble clotting my blood after the operation and so a CS could end up being a more dangerous option for me. One of the doctors did an internal examination to see if there was any chance of inducing me. This was really painful and I screamed and cried through the whole thing. The result of examination was that I had an "unfavourable cervix" and so they thought that if they tried to induce me it might take several days. They decided that based on the results of the baby monitoring and the extent of my pre-eclampsia this was was time which we didn't have.

The blood tests came back showing that I had HELLP and that my platelets were 48 (I don't know what they should be normally but the doctor was happy when they got up to 190 a few days later and my googling has told me that having platelets under 50 put me in the most severe category of HELLP). It turned out that the rib pain which I had been having was also part of the HELLP syndrome and was my liver not working properly. I hadn't had any of the normal PE symptoms of headaches / swelling. To be able to have the CS (because induction wasn't an option) I had to be given a transfusion to increase my platelet levels.

A doctor brought me the CS consent form to sign and I remember him reading out the potential complications including hysterectomy and I remember thinking that that was a better option than dying from PE Sad.

They then wheeled me round to theatre. They had to give me a general anaesthetic (I don't remember discussing other options with anyone so I imagine that they had to do this because they had decided that they needed to operate quickly). Ethan was born at 12.49pm, less than 3 hours after my CMW had checked my urine and BP. He was 4lb 6oz. He was so small because the PE had stopped him from growing for the previous couple of weeks.

I can't remember much of the rest of the day because I was in such a haze from the anaesthetic. DH has told me that they brought Ethan out to him really fast, within 15 mins of me being taken to theatre (in fact this was so quick that DH had gone to the canteen to grab a sandwich and a MW was waiting with Ethan in the ward for him when he got back!) and so he had plenty of time for lots of cuddles. I can remember coming round from the anaesthetic a couple of times. One time I remember shouting that I was absolutely knackered because I hadn't finished work and so hadn't had any of the annual leave that I had been looking forward to and that all of this happened too early. I also remember feeling like I needed to be sick (a side effect from the anaesthetic) but not wanting to because I knew that it would hurt my stomach muscles.

I didn't wake up properly until 6am the following morning. The MWs had fed ethan with formula overnight (with our consent). One of MWs saw that I had woken up and so she brought me some tea and toast and then put Ethan on my chest under my hospital gown so that I could have my first proper cuddle with him. Smile

We ended up staying on the High Dependency Unit for 3 days which was not much fun. It's like an A&E dept for maternity cases and so there are often emergencies coming in through the day and night and so it is very noisy and the lights don't normally get turned down so it is very difficult to sleep. Also, all of the patients are hooked up machine to monitor them constantly including a BP cuff which automatically inflated every hour 24 hours a day which I hated. After that we got moved to a private room in the normal post natal ward where we stayed for another 6 days while Ethan got his feeding sorted, his weight up and became able to maintain his own body temperature and while I got my platelet levels up and my BP under control.

Everything is good now, Ethan is now 5 weeks old and was 6lb when he was weighed last week. I am slowly coming off all of my BP medication, although my GP thinks that it might take 3 months to come off everything completely.

Obviously this wasn't the type of birth that I wanted and although I am happy that we are both safe and well and am very aware that not all PE and HELLP cases have such a happy outcome, I still feel that in a way I cheated by getting a baby without ever experiencing a contraction. I also feel that I have been cheated by not having a chance to have the labour which I had been preparing for so many months for. I almost feel that it's like a race which I have been training for for ages being called off at the last minute and then me not having the chance to prove to everyone that I can do it. The hospital have referred me for traumatic birth counselling and each time I talk about the experience it gets easier and I'm not crying every time any more. The positive thing (apart from having a beautiful baby of course!) is that now the doctors and MWs know that I am at risk of developing PE again in a future pregnancy, they will be monitoring me much more closely and giving me drugs throughout any future pregnancy so that they can reduce the chances of me getting it again, and if I do get it hopefully it will be spotted earlier and so delivery won't have to be quite as rushed as this time. All of the medical staff I have encountered have been brilliant.

79monica · 29/06/2011 14:40

That is really long, sorry everyone!

Nurse I just read your birth story, you must have been very scared. Well done on getting through it all. I see that you also got to spend time in the fun Jessops HDU ward like me!

NurseSunshine · 29/06/2011 14:57

Thanks millie

Well done to you too monica you must have been terrified but thank goodness you and Ethan are both OK :) HDU is great isn't it Hmm

MW came today to weigh Jasmine and she has lost 7% of birth weight, and under 10% is OK so that's good. She's having her heel prick on friday :(

How are other breast feeding newbies getting on with it all? My nips are on fire!

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misshoohaa · 29/06/2011 16:12

nurse and Monica congratulations on your babies although both your birth storied sound like they were really tough but so pleased you are both home now with your bundles.

nurse don't worry too much about the heel prick, Xav didn't say boo during his, I don't think it's that painful.

BF is going well for us, hes like clockwork every 3 hours so doing well. After the first week the nipple on fire sensation disappeared and now it's pretty much pain free. He does come off the boob quite a few times during a feed and often tosses his head around and gets all cranky even though the breast is there and waiting but I think this is just him and I both learning! I'm expressing off a bottle a day so that dad can do a feed in thGrin night which is a godsend. No nipple confusion at all, so pleased about that. It's nice to know he can take a bottle need be, although I have no desire to stop BFeeding - I'm really enjoying it. Smile

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KaraStarbuckThrace · 29/06/2011 18:15

Nurse/Monica/8rd - thank you for sharing your birth stories they were amazing.

Monica -sorry you had such a scary experience, but glad you had a good outcome in the end.

8rd - what a fast delivery!!

Bfing does get easier the longer you do it :)

Did not give dummy in the end, am resisting as I am remembering ds could be a horror with his! Misshoohaa - make sure that you have at least 3-4 of the type your ds prefers, for when he starts chucking them in a temper Grin

crazychic141187 · 29/06/2011 20:17

Wow some of you ladies on here and amazing with the births that you have had! I feel like mine was relatively normal now!

Maisie is doing really well now feeding fabulously and gaining weight! She is getting weighed again tomorrow so in expecting to hear she has put loads more on! Only problem we are having with her is that she won't sleep at night in her basket and she will only sleep in bed with us! People are giving us conflicting views about whether this is good or not but if it's the only way she sleeps then im willing to let it happen!

Something that is really bugging me at the moment is dp's mum telling me that I will give maisie a dummy! I'm adamant that she won't have a dummy and she keeps telling me that give it a week and she will have one! It's annoying me coz she is my baby and it's my choice of what to do not hers grrr!!!

Sending vibes to those left waiting and cuddles to all the cute little babies!

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PrisonerZero · 29/06/2011 20:42

Scary birth storys from Monica and Nurse - Glad everything is ok with you and your babies.

I am so fed up and pissed off. DP is in the pub (the same place as he has been every night since DS was born) He is usually out for a couple of hours on a week night and then back about half 7 and we eat dinner. I go to bed at half 8 with DS, feed him and change him etc finally getting him off about 10pm, which then gives me 2 hours sleep as he wakes at midnight and every hour after that for feeding. DP goes out on a saturday night and gets home at 3am, which I don't really mind as its the weekend. But, tonight he is still out and probably wont be back til late now. He doesn't have his door key though and wants me to leave it outside for him. Plus I haven't eaten as we were going to get a chinese and now I can't be bothered to cook myself anything. It sounds so petty, but he is at work all day, home for half an hour and then out - He doesn't even hold the baby. When I am going up to bed though, he has him for 10 minutes whilst I take the things I need upstairs, have a wee, get changed etc and although its only 10 minutes, it helps me.

Today I have done some shopping, picked my other DC up, cooked their dinner, done some washing, been on and off the bus etc, plus breastfeeding every hour and a half and all I wanted this evening was a bath and now I can't have one as he isn't in to watch DS. I would only have been half an hour, I need a proper wash, even a shower would have done but DS wont be put down for more than a few minutes so I could have done with a hand. I didn't even get chance to have lunch today.

It doesn't seem fair that he gets a few hours every evening to himself, can shower when he wants, stay up later than 8.30pm. I feed, change, wash, settle, re-settle x100, cuddle, sing to, wind, clean up sick etc DS.

I haven't moaned to him about it, it would be pointless, he just doesn't get it. He keeps suggesting we introduce formula so DS would sleep longer - he is missing the point though, if he was around more I would have a chance to relax. Don't get me wrong, I adore my baby, I love him and don't mind doing everything for him - its a pleasure to even wipe up his sick! I can't stop thinking about how wonderful he is and being amazed at every little face he pulls, but I want it to stay that way, I don't want to end up stressed and fed up. Plus I have my older Dc that need some attention too.

Sorry about the moan, just feeling a bit blah this evening.

knackered76 · 29/06/2011 20:44

Hello everyone,

Sorry it's been such an absence, life has been more then chaotic the past few weeks. Needless to say so much has happened on here I won't be able to catch up but huge congratulations to all those who have their babies now and fingers crossed for all those still waiting! I have just read a couple of the birth stories and clearly I am still emotional as I cried through everyone I read!

Nurse I take my hat off to you. Cor blimey girl, what a way to become a mum :) I hope you're recovering okay.

Monica With my other head I take my hat off to you as well. I can't imagine how frightening it must have been for you. Thank goodness for a happy outcome and sounds like Ethan is doing really well :)

Dexter finally came home a week ago so we've been settling into life with 3. DH goes back to work tomorrow so am trying not to think about how I will cope by myself, hoping that somehow it will all work out! I did try and take a nurse home with me from hospital but with no luck Grin. We did have comedy bfing for a few days where my supply from expressing was far too much for him. DH commented that it must be like trying to latch onto a football for him! Annoyingly I now have mastitis but am on drugs and painfully feeding through it, hoping it clears up soon.

Crazy Unfortunately people telling you how to do things doesn't change when you have the baby! Deep breaths and lots of counting to 10 slowly Grin

Oh and I second Kara, bf does get easier the longer you do it. A friends mum once told me that if you can get through the first 2 weeks you'll be fine :)

I will try and keep up a bit more now . . . famous last words!

ConfessionsOfAnAchingFanjo · 29/06/2011 22:13

Well I'm having mild contractions roughly every 20 minutes. All going well it'll be a slow burn til the morning, then baby some time in the day. Just like it's big brother (right down to the day of the week and all).

milliemuffin · 29/06/2011 22:13

Prisoner really sorry to hear about your DP. You are coping amazingly well considering he only spends 10mins a day with him and from the sounds of it no time at all with your other DC. I have no advice I'm afraid other than sitting him down and making him realise how unfair he is being but I'm not sure how best to do it. Really hope someone else has some advice as it really does sound very unfair :(

Mummyofprawn sorry to hear you're still waiting, hopefully things will get going soon.

I'm feeling really anxious tonight. The last 3 nights I've woken with strong and very uncomfortable BH or are they contractions? I've had them on and off today but like an hour apart. I know something's gotta happen soon (can feel one starting now) but I'm worrying myself about panicking which is daft! Desperately want to relax but I feel so tense already. I coped so much better when I had DD, was focused and it was great. Now I'm just really nervous and doubting myself :(

milliemuffin · 29/06/2011 22:16

COAFF fantastic news. Hope you have a successful night and everything goes the way you want it to. Thinking of you xx

8rubberduckies · 29/06/2011 22:56

Nurse and Monica thanks for sharing your birth stories. I know that my words probably sound so hollow, but both of you did so well to get through your difficult births with evident strength. Nurse your story sounds similar to my 1st experience and I feel for you with having a beaten up little baby! Monica a good friend of mine also had an EMCS in January, although not in such difficult circumstances as you. She also felt cheated out of her planned birth (natural homebirth); I think it is quite common for women in your situation, and I think taking the counselling offered is a good idea.

Prisoner I am so sorry you are not feeling supported; I too have no advice, apart from don't suffer in silence, it will only make you resent him more and it will build up over time. I think you need to talk to him, but it sounds like it could take more than that for him to change his behaviour, as it sounds like he thinks it is normal to not be around much. Sorry, that is not much help Sad I hope you manage to sort things out. I hope you have some other support nearby you can call on - if you have please take it, as you sound knackered!

Off to bed soon before the night shift commences; Ruby is feeding every 2 hours at night, but luckily I've got the feeding-whilst-led-down thing down to a tee Grin. As soon as she finishes her 6am feed ds jumps on the bed wanting to use me as a climbing frame... [knackered emoticon].

8rubberduckies · 29/06/2011 22:57

Oh yes, forgot to say - good luck COAFF will be logging on as soon as I can tomorrow to catch up on all the good news from you and Neenewps et al Smile.

8rubberduckies · 29/06/2011 23:00

Keep forgetting to comment on posts - far too sleepy for my brain to work - Millie I think it is only natural to feel panicky and doubtful at your stage - I am positive that once things kick off you will feel a lot calmer like you did with dd. Thinking of you tonight Smile

tinyk · 29/06/2011 23:44

Hiya gals. Still here, 20 min from due date! DH lying knackered and snoring beside me means I can't drift off! The LO is lying in a new and uncomfortable position too Wink. Love him!

Thank you so much to the girls who are posting their birth stories. Here's what I'm taking from you: you can't control your labour, but the joy of holding your baby at the and is worth it.

merlon I've had a heart murmur from birth, it's never gone away, and I've won national championships in two different sports in two countries. Best of luck with your daughter's, but hopefully it's all fine!

tinyk · 29/06/2011 23:48

D'uh, sorry about typos and spelling merlion incorrectly! We've been at Henley all day supporting friends (to many a raised eyebrow when asked 'when are you due' to be told 'tomorrow'). Clearly it's taken more out of me than I thought!

Merlion · 30/06/2011 02:25

Thanks all for your comments. I know that the vast majority of murmurs are fine I think I was mainly in shock yesterday just hearing the word heart and your baby on the same sentence is pretty scary! Tinyk that's really impressive heart murmur or no!

Monica sorry your birth was so traumatic and hope the counseling helps.

Prisoner I had words with dh last week as I didn't think he'd spent much time with ds or dd. In fact dd wouldn't settle for him which upset him and made him realize that he did need to spend more time with her. His problem is work though. He came home straight away after the doctors appointment yesterday as he was worried about both of us.

Dd not feeding very well in the day and keeps screaming at the breast. Not at all sure why. She's fine at night time though.

KaraStarbuckThrace · 30/06/2011 08:07

Prisoner, i am going to be blunt and say your dp is a selfish twat and I am Angry on your behalf. You need to have some serious words with him, it is completely unacceptable for him to piss off down the pub every night when you have a newborn. And if you are happy bfing, then don't introduce formula because I can guarantee it will be you left to sterilising and making up bottles!!
I hope you make sleep on the sofa as well when he rolls in at 3am!!!

Merlion - totally understandable you being worried about your dd! WRT to the screaming at the breast, could she be windy? Sometimes dd does this until she eventually does a massive belch!

ConfessionsOfAnAchingFanjo · 30/06/2011 08:41

Still here after a reasonable nights sleep. The contractions are getting closer together and stronger, but I still feel like I'm a fair way off thinking about hospital. I will be farming DS out soon though.

Prisoner Can't believe your husband is treating you that way. You need to put your foot down and getting selfish with some time for yourself. Missing meals is not good for you esp as you're bfing and trying to recover from birth!

Haven't been able to read the 2 birth stories yet, but hope everyone else is well and there are more babies trying to be born too.

NurseSunshine · 30/06/2011 09:23

Prisoner You need to make sure "D"P knows you expect him to act like just that - your partner. If you don't even have time to eat how are your supposed to feed a baby and look after two older children? Are you expected to do the housework and things as well? Totally unacceptable, I hope he pulls his finger out soon and I second him sleeping on the sofa till he does. And feeding is your decision so don't feel pressured into giving formula if you don;t want to just to make his life easier, sounds pretty easy already. (((((HUGS)))))

Go COAAF!!!

TinyK I think I almost developed a heart murmour just thinking about your achievements!
Wait till you go over your due date and start answering the when are you due question with "Yesterday!" Grin

Merlion Sounds like you're feeling a bit calmer about DD, I'm glad :)

So my milk came in last night Shock I thought I had big boobs before but ths is ridiculous! I think I'm going to have to express a fair bit to even get her on properly.
How long are they supposed to feed for? DD only spends about 10-20 min feeding an then just sleeps for 2-3 hours. One of the MWs in hospital said it was because she's a big baby and already has some fat stores for energy but it seems as though she couldn't even be getting to the hind milk? I've just left a message for the breastfeeding peer supporter to call me back so hopefully this is normal.

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takethatlady · 30/06/2011 09:29

prisoner I have to agree with kara and nurse. It just isn't acceptable. It's not fair on you, your other DCs, and certainly not fair on the new LO. Your DP is missing out on his family - not only does he need to step up and take responsibility, but if he's got anything about him (and I'm sure he must do, since he's your DP), he's going to regret it when he looks back and realises he never bonded properly with his baby. He should be treating you like a queen right now and pandering to your every whim - you just carried his child for nine months and gave birth and are feeding and looking after the baby and it's physically and emotionally draining and somehow he needs to understand that.

Go coaaf! I have put a message for you on the other antenatal thread. So excited for you and excited we have another birth on this thread!

Had lots of pressure last night, sharp shooting pains on and off for three hours and especially when I go for a wee, and a big trickle of water running out when I got up this morning, but nothing more. Definitely the sharp pains weren't contractions but hopefully it's a sign that something is going on ...

I'm predicting a July 4th baby for me (my birthday) :)

AlmightyCitrus · 30/06/2011 09:55

Prisoner Your DP is a complete knob. New baby or not, what sort of a relationship is it where he is out either at work or in the pub, and you are at home all the time?

Please don't starve yourself. Even if you have to put the baby down, and let him cry for 5 minutes, at least find time to make a sandwich or something. You're not doing either of you any favours if you don't eat.

Great to read the other birth stories. I feel so lucky that mine was relatively straight forward.

Come on confessions! Lets have another baby by the end of the day!

I have to say that CitrusJunior is an absolutely delightful baby (touch wood...so far). I feed him about midnight, then he sleeps till about 4am and DH does that feed, then sleeps again until about 7.30 - 8am. He hardly cries, unless he wants feeding. The 3 older DC's adore him. I've not managed to convince them to do nappies yet, but I'm working on it! DD2 has spent the last few days trying to teach him his second word (Yes, second. Apparently his first word was HA. Gifted and Talented is this way --> yes?!). His second word will be the short version of DD2's name. Grin

KaraStarbuckThrace · 30/06/2011 10:02

quick one from me as on phone.

TTL could your waters be going??

Nurse - feeding pattterns can vary enormously, now your milks come in keep track of wet nappies, she shoul dproduce 6 a day at least - and when she wees on you mid nappy change that counts too Grin

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