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Iwish · 24/05/2011 21:15

A nice cosy place to accommodate our growing bumps and little wrigglers.

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GetDownYouWillFall · 20/09/2011 12:34

Congratulations to Iwish !!! Sorry you had such a hard time, but hope you are recovering well now and enjoying your gorgeous little boy.

Congratulations also to pippa !!! So exciting, all these babies. What a beautiful name she has. Would love to hear how you found your hypnobirthing and whether you thought it helped you.

Hi to everyone else.

We have got a bit of a rhythm going here at night whereby DH picks up Robin, brings him to me - I feed whilst DH goes back to sleep, then DH changes his nappy whilst I go back to sleep, then I feed him from the other side, I put him down and we all go back to sleep. It's hard work, feeding every 2-3hrs night and day, but we are reaping the benefits - he was weighed yesterday and had only lost 3oz which is great apparently.

Hope everyone else is doing ok xxx

newyearsday · 21/09/2011 11:14

OMG lots of new babies!!!!

getdown what a beautiful birth story, it sounds like a dream! How wonderful after your traumatic first experience, I'm so happy for you. You're fantastic! Welcome baby Robin!

Iwish congratulations on the birth of Joshua. It sounds like you had a really tough time, but you did a fantastic job (I had the back to back contractions so I know that pain it is beyond words). I hope you're recovering but give yourself some time. And enjoy getting to know your beautiful little boy xx

pippa you did it - your little girl is here! Welcome to the world Eloise. Looking forward to hearing your birth story when you get a moment.

Hello all the other new mums, babies and mummies-to-be! Must dash, mine has just woken up....xx

Pippaandpolly · 23/09/2011 18:39

Right, I am on my phone so apologies in advance for any mistakes. Do you want to hear my birth story? Grin

So on Saturday evening at about 7 my waters went in a big rush (was on the loo anyway thank goodness!) and we called Triage and went in to get checked as I wasn't having contractions. They sent us home with instructions to take temperature etc and said if nothing happened to call on Monday morning at 8 to arrange a time to go in for induction. Contractions started that night but were pretty mild, picked up on Sunday and by Sunday night were every 3 mins and strong. I did my hypno-breathing a lot which was really useful, and DH gave me long massages which were great. I rang the hospital at about 2am and we went in. They didn't want to examine me due to the risk of infection as it had been a while since my waters went, but the midwife said my contractions weren't 'real' Angry and that I would definitely need to be induced. I really didn't want to be so asked for some more time to see if they would get stronger. At about 10am on Monday she examined me and said I was only 3cm dilated and needed inducing asap. I said no and she got really stroppy-'Well of course I'm ONLY a professional, just ignore me...' silly cow. I asked for more time and she eventually gave up. At about 3pm they moved us to a labour room and we moved to a new midwife too, who was SO lovely and supportive. We eventually agreed at about 5pm as a second exam showed I was still only 3cm dilated, despite the contractions being v intense all day. We really agonised about it as I knew it would totally change the birth from what we wanted, and we'd already had to give up our plan for a water birth due to the waters going so early. But in the end the risk of infection was too high by that point (they like to induce at 24-36 hours and we were almost at 48) so we agreed. I remembered reading that induced labours could be much harder to handle due to the speed of the contractions, so after more soul searching I also agreed to an epidural. This was the 3rd big thing that was way off birth plan!

The woman who did our epidural didn't seem very confident, and took 3 goes as the first 2 times she hit bone, which was excruciating. Eventually they got a more senior anaesthetist in to supervise. Then they started the drip (which lovely midwife quietly pointed out was painful because it was wrongly positioned-by the same woman who attempted the epidural-in retrospect I think she was a student). It was weird feeling my body contracting but it not being painful, and although it was an ordeal getting it in, I have to say it was nice to not be in pain anymore.

However, the epidural wasn't done properly and by the time I was near the end it wasn't working at all anymore. I didn't really realise it at the time as the midwife said it was normal to feel pressure, but retrospectively it was clearly far more painful than it should have been given the amount of drugs in my body. I ended up needing gas and air-so much more effective than the epidural!!

I had wanted to breathe the baby out but with the not-right-epidural I was totally out of it and had to push. Luckily this was not as painful as I thought it would be as I was totally in the zone. It was a bizarre combination of a hypno-birth and a very drugged one.

Right at the end the midwife told DH to hit a button and suddenly the room was full of people-about 12 in total. I remember very little but DH said it was terrifying to watch. I was dimly aware of people holding my legs down and back and DH said someone basically punched me in the stomach, then DD was born, very floppy, and thrown onto a resuscitating table. Thank God she was fine in about 2 minutes, though DH was freaking out because even once it was apparent she was alive they kept talking about possible broken bones. Anyway, she was fine Grin

Once everyone had left the midwife brought her over and we had a cuddle-DH whipped his top off too so he could join in much to her amusement!-and got our breath back. The midwife explained she had been stuck at the shoulders (dystocia I think it's called) and that was why they'd had to manipulate (punch!) my stomach to move her from the outside, and why they'd worried they'd broken her arms. A senior midwife came in and apologised and said they'd make sure they learned from the experience etc, but I really don't think they did anything wrong (apart from the epidural!) and to be honest was just so grateful the emergency procedure kicked in so quickly and effectively. I think it was far more traumatising for DH than me because he had to watch. Interestingly, despite such a horrid entrance to the world, Eloise was totally chilled out-and still is-and I really think that although absolutely nothing went according to plan, she is a Hypnobirthing baby at heart.

We've really struggled with breast feeding and I got totally fed up at hospital being manhandled by different people while she didn't feed, which was v stressful. We eventually came home yesterday and have been doing a combination of hand expressing, tiny, tiny suckles at the breast and formula top ups. I always thought I would breast feed and am finding it a bit upsetting that it's not working as I'd expected, but we're persevering for now and fingers crossed it will get better. It is very, very nice to be home, and Eloise is just gorgeous and relaxed and amazing Grin we're so in love with her it's unreal.

I really think that things happen for a reason and if our original birth plan had worked it might have been disastrous. We'd contemplated a home birth, wanted a water birth, wanted no induction etc etc, but when push comes to shove at the moment of her birth we were in exactly the right place with the right people. The midwife said that we were also lucky she was an average size (7lbs 14ozs) because if she'd been much bigger I'd have needed an emergency caesarean at the end and we might not have got there quickly enough.

I had a second degree tear (so close to third but not thank God) and I am very sore but healing nicely I think.

We are very happy and very blessed and enjoying our gorgeous baby girl very, very much Grin

GetDownYouWillFall · 23/09/2011 19:18

My goodness pippa Shock What a lot to process for you all. I'm glad you seem so relaxed about everything that happened. Well done for seeing the positive - that both you and Eloise have come out of it and you are fine and home now. If it's any consolation, my first birth experience with DD was a traumatic one too, and like you, the breast feeding did not go at all to plan. But every birth and every baby is different. Next time will be different Smile I have proved that to myself Smile. Enjoy your gorgeous little girl. xxxx

Love to everyone else.

I am shattered. That is all.

MrsArchchancellorRidcully · 24/09/2011 10:51

Wow pippa that sounds like quite an event. I hope you can process it all and if it does bother you at a later date, then there are ways to 'debrief'. Hope you are still having lots of lovely newborn cuddles.

So ladies - I am leaking a lot of colostrum (I assume) at 32 weeks, especially oif I hand express. This is a delight to me as I never leaked at all with DD so hope it's a good sign. Should I/ when would you consider collecting it and freezing, just in case? Any thoughts?

MrsP81 · 24/09/2011 21:39

Thank you for your birth stories ladies. iwish and pippa, sounds like you both had a hard time of it. I hope you're both recovering well now and enjoying yor cuddles. Smile

getdown your story is lovely, we just started hypnobirthing classes so I hope that I can achieve this too. It is quite late to be starting them (35+4 today) so I hope that we make it to the end of the course!

Hello MrsA, hope you enjoyed your camping trip. I'm afraid I don't know the answer re colostrum but I would have thought that if you are producing it now then it shouldn't be a problem when baby arrives. I am only leaking tiny little dribbles of it so far!

One week left of work, woo hoo!

jaggythistle · 25/09/2011 15:45

MrsA I'm not sure in what circumstances storing it would be useful, but I was able to express into a wee cup and syringe feed DS fine in hospital - MWs had equipment for me. He was struggling a bit as he had a tongue tie.

Hopefully baby will feed fine and your milk will be in soon, so colostrum would just be for the first few days - maybe ask experts on the bfing board about storing it?

I feel awfully far behind at 8 and a bit weeks, crossing my fingers for some new graduates to join us soon! :)

Congrats pippa

Hormones are making me extra emotional reading all the birth stories!

spilttheteaagain · 29/09/2011 11:30

pippa Shock that sounds awful! I'm so sorry you had such a tough time of it. I hope you and Eloise are recovering and bonding well. How is feeding going?

It's all gone very quiet on here recently. How many do we have still expecting? Haven't seen raven for a while, hope all is well with you and your twins.

I'm really very excited to report that DD pretty much slept through last night! 10pm til 5.20am. We were Shock. She is only 5 and a half weeks. No idea if this miracle will be repeated yet so watch this space.

She's grown so much now and is just moving from newborn to 0-3 month clothes and has outgrown the size 1 nappies My tiny baby has gone and is growing up so fast! Poor little love has got masses of milk spots and looks just like an acne ridden teenager. Fortunately she's too young to be self conscious and we think she's gorgeous whatever.

So, is it MrsP up next? Then MrsA I believe. And terrys. Good luck ladies, hope all these babies are cooking nicely xx

MrsArchchancellorRidcully · 30/09/2011 11:03

Great to hear things are going so well with DD spilt Are you still feeding ok? I remeber when DD outgrew things. I'm now loooking at baby boy things and thinking how they are nmot as cute as DDs. Not that I won't adore him but I know how baby girls work!

I'm 33 wks and currently being chased by the antenatal clinic to have a growth scan which I don't need. Just waiting for my IM's letter saying thanks but no thanks to filter down. I am hot and tired and a bit leaky but doing ok and feeling well. I don't finish work for another 4 weeks though... Urrghh.

spilttheteaagain · 30/09/2011 16:46

Hi MrsA, yes we're still feeding. It's going pretty well now, much more efficient and quick. We can get a feed done in about 20 mins now which means much more sleep and less stress and upset all round. Weirdly though I'm finding feeding from the left much more difficult. I can't quite work out why - I think it's the angle/possibly wrist isn't strong enough to support her comfortably that way round. And her latch is a lot worse on that side. But the right is like a dream Smile

This heat is unbelievable. I'm all sticky and yuck, really feel for those of you who are pregnant. I keep fretting about DD being too hot or dehydrated. She spent most of yesterday starkers bar her nappy.

It might be cheeky, but are you not tempted to have the scan MrsA and then move on to your IM? I grabbed every scan I could get for reassurance purposes, though I appreciate I was probably a lot more paranoid and scared than most.

GetDownYouWillFall · 30/09/2011 21:06

I have the same problem re. feeding spilt only our "problem" side is the right!! He always seems to slip onto the nipple on that side, which is ouch! and it's always harder to latch him onto that side too. I wonder if it's got anything to do with the position they used to lie in in the womb? Whether it gives them a bias to one side or the other, I don't know.

Went to a breastfeeding clinic yesterday which was really good. They were so lovely and supportive - and served tea and cake!! Spoke to a really good HV who gave us some tips - like squeezing the breast at the end of the feed, to give him more of the really fatty, calorie rich milk. It seemed to work as he slept for longer between feeds last night, and as a result we all had a much better day today Smile For the last week or so it's been every 2.5 hrs at night which has been a killer.. Also she said that from next week I can express a small amount in the morning and then top him up with it in the evening about 9pm which should also help him go longer. Here's hoping! Just really glad he's feeding though, as it was a nightmare with DD and I had to give up after 3 weeks. Looks like this one is keen to feed for longer! I plan to go for 6 months if I can.

MrsA I know what you mean about boy stuff, but honestly, when you get YOUR boy you will feel totally in love! I was a bit aprehensive thinking about possibly having a boy, wondering if I could bond with a boy as much as with a girl. A lot of the little boys I know are a bit of a PITA to be honest, and I wasn't really loving the thought of having a boy. But OH! Now I've got my darling little boy, I love him to bits. Wouldn't change him for the world. And actually a lot of the boys clothes are mighty cute too! Smile Bet you can't wait to meet your little boy Smile Hope things with the IM are going ok, heard you had to change midwife??

I really am not loving this heat. Something about breastfeeding is sending my metabolism into overdrive and I am sweating like a pig!!! Blush

Iwish · 01/10/2011 18:43

Hi lovelies!

Hope you are all ok. Thought I would just check in. Joshua is 13 days old now and I have been out of the hospital 8 days. He is going for an op on Tuesday for his Tongue tie. Hopefully after that has been done he will be able to breastfeed. At the mo I am expressing and bottle feeding.
I suspect he has some trapped wind too. After he feeds he doesn't burp and just cries. I have just bought some infacol so hope it works.

Congrats to pippa on the birth of your little girly. Sounds like you had a hard time but I bet she is worth it.

getdown and split you sound like you are doing fab with the BF, hope I can do just as well when little mans Tongue is sorted.

Waves to mrsa mrsp jaggy terrys raven ladyg nix and anyone else I have missed.

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Pippaandpolly · 01/10/2011 19:48

Am so impressed with you all breastfeeding through various difficulties-esp Iwish doing all that expressing. I tried to express and just couldn't get more than 5mls a go, and DD couldn't get the hang of feeding at all. Everyone said position was fine, she just wouldn't latch on. Eventually gave up yesterday and moved entirely to bottles. Am feeling v sad about it, and guilty for not trying for longer and not being able to express, but am trying to think about it positively-ie the important thing is that she eats at all, now how she eats. Still a bit Sad though.

How is everyone faring with sleep? We're splitting the night into two-10pm till 4am and 4am till 10am so DH and I each get a 6 hour slot asleep, but it's still pretty blimmin hard!

Iwish · 01/10/2011 20:17

pippa that's fab that your DH is getting up with your DD. I do the full night and DP takes him downstairs at about 9am and I have a hour in bed.
Don't feel bad about the feeding. I worried about it for the whole week I was in hospital. I'm still going to try bf when he has had his Tongue done but I have done everything I planned not to do. He has had a bit of formula, bottles and a dummy. As long as your DD is eating that's all that counts.

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jaggythistle · 01/10/2011 22:25

hi iwish. my DS had his tongue tie snipped at 8 days and it made a real difference to his ability to latch on and also not fall off! fx it's as effective for you. :)

Iwish · 01/10/2011 22:34

I hope so jaggy. He can't latch on at all bless him so had to give him a bottle. Am keeping my fingers crossed as this expressing malarkey is hard work lol.
Hope you are ok? X

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jaggythistle · 01/10/2011 22:46

yes thanks. midwife coming round tomorrow to pick up my notes and give me my scan appointment at last!

can't wait to get past this sleepy queasy bit and also quite impatient to tell people now (it'll explain why i look like crap and have eaten my own bodyweight in cheese recently. Grin)

DS could latch on but he fell off a lot and was slow to get back to his birthweight, so i guess he wasn't getting the milk well. he chubbed up fine after the procedure though. :)

Pippaandpolly · 02/10/2011 08:36

Iwish the problem will come next week when DH is back at work and I lose my nighttime helper! I have been spoiled-don't know how I'll cope being up all night by myself...eek. DD sleeps fine but hates going in her basket overnight (ok during the day though!) so sleeps on one of us-makes it v hard to sleep ourselves!

Iwish · 02/10/2011 10:14

Oooh jaggy bet you are excited for the midwife to come today, fingers crossed your scan appt is soon.

pippa lol, I'm sure you will be fine when your DH goes back to work. My DS has had a few nights of moaning and not wanting to go in his basket but have cuddled him to sleep and put him down eventually.

Tired this morning. Joshua was fed and put down at 10:30 ish and was up at 1am, 4am, 7am and 9am. DP got up with him at 9am tho and I stayed in bed and expressed some milk.

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jaggythistle · 02/10/2011 13:01

Appointment is a week on Friday. It's at the exact time my shift starts that day so will need to just tell my boss to get the time off. She is nice but I will still be nervous as anything!

Iwish · 02/10/2011 15:52

I'm sure your boss will be fine jaggy. I told my boss at about 8 weeks because I had an appt in work hours and I was scared to death.

Little man has just puked up his last feed, nice!

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GetDownYouWillFall · 02/10/2011 19:41

I think some babies just take to breastfeeding and others don't. My DD was such hard work, she wouldn't latch on, and then when she finally did she would give up sucking after about 5 minutes. We gave up after 3 weeks because she was losing weight.

DS on the other hand, is a feeding monster! And will suck strongly for about half an hour and then still want more!! I don;t think I've done anything different this time, apart from the less stressful birth. But in terms of technique I definitely have not done anything different. Some babies are much better at breast feeding than others. Don't feel bad if you have to switch to formula.

I have been very spoilt too, as although I am doing all the feeding, DH gets up in the night and does his nappy at every feed. So basically I don't have to get out of bed even! We are both tired, but we both seem to get enough sleep overall. He goes back to work tomorrow. He says he is still happy to get up to do the nappies, but I will feel bad and I think the arrangement will have to change as I don't want him being knackered at work.

Iwish · 02/10/2011 20:23

getdown Is it easier BF than FF? I'm currently expressing and feeding by bottle until DS has his Tongue sorted and it takes forever in the night. I'm up at least a hour because I feed him, express more, change him then put him down. I hope that he takes to BF so I can feed him, change him then sleep.

DS is very clingy and whingy. He just won't let me put him down. He goes in his Moses basket for about 5 mins then screams! I think he has trapped wind so have been giving him infacol. Hope he settles down when the wind problem is sorted. Don't want to keep picking him up.

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nickstermum · 03/10/2011 13:05

have missed soooooooooooooooooo much.......................... huge congrats ladies xxx must catch up xx

Iwish · 03/10/2011 14:14

Hey Nix xx

Just in case you want a nosey i have put some pics of my beautiful little boy on my profile [proud mummy motion] Grin

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