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Bo's death. An update

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bubble99 · 09/06/2005 19:59

Well, we finally got a letter today from the hospital responding to our questions in writing. I'd left it for a while before chasing them. I 'phoned the Patient's Liaison bod yesterday morning and seven hours later got a real 'Cheques in the post. Oh! you haven't received it yet?' Response.

I won't go into long drawn-out details here. Those of you who may have followed the story know what happened. After the enquiry meeting I came away feeling like crap but also positive that a bleep-holding supernumerary MW would be reinstated to ensure that such a fatal fk up would not happen again. The letter we got today said that the hospital is 'reviewing reinstating a bleep-holder' Not the same thing and I'm sure they're hoping they never hear from us again. Call me cynical but I believe they have no intention of reinstating this vital role, costs a bit and heck! Let's use the money for yet another meaningless layer of middle-management

I've discussed it with Mr Bubble and I'm contacting Susan Kramer who is our local MP tomorrow to make a big, stinky noise about this.

Tears again today, I expected it but it still feels like a knifewound.

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bubble99 · 10/06/2005 20:37

Thanks all.

I've emailed Susan Kramer giving her a very brief outline and pointing out that the changes promised and not delivered involve money. I'll visit her constituent's surgery next week if she doesn't respond.

I'm feeling OK today.

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mears · 10/06/2005 20:38

Hi Bubble

spacecadet · 10/06/2005 20:41

I cant beleive that they are only considering re-instating that post after what happened with you, as i said on your other thread i was flab bergasted to learn that both my local maternity hospitals did not have 24/7 bleep holder standalone post. Hope that you get a positive response from your MP.

AngelCakeUmm · 10/06/2005 20:42

Bubble i am so sorry your having to go through all this, i reaaly admire your strength

Heathcliffscathy · 10/06/2005 20:43

bubble i'm with NdP, kick up massive stink seems like the only option now. you've tried to give them a chance to sort things out in order that the horrific things that happened to you aren't repeated, and they haven't done a thing. so if you have the strength and courage and will (which it would be understandable if you had none of) go for the jugular. first MP, and then press.

I'm so so sorry that you're going through this, over and above the loss of your son, it makes me so sad and angry.

LGJ · 10/06/2005 20:44

Create merry hell.

We will march on Westminster if needs be, and I am not joking.

We need a journo..............

Heathcliffscathy · 10/06/2005 20:53

LGJ, i'd be first in the marching queue. willow and aloha have posted on your threads bubble haven't they. they are journos.

bubble99 · 10/06/2005 21:17

Hello all. Wotcha mears Can I CAT you? If I sent you copies of our notes etc. would you have a look. I ask because I was very aware at the enquiry meeting that things like understaffing were only acknowledged when I asked a direct question. It would be good to have a practising MW look at my my notes to maybe pick up any obstetric points that we may have missed.

To all of you, thanks again for your support.

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mears · 10/06/2005 21:28

ofcourse you can.

Flossam · 10/06/2005 21:32

Bubble, I don't know if this will help but I really want to try!

I went to college with a lovely, vivacious girl called Charlotte. She was larger than life. She died when she was 19 in a freak accident in Equador. Her mother was inspirational in the funeral she held for her and I still shed tears for my friend. It was so tragic, she was so beautiful. Her mother was a baroness. I was unsure whether she still was, as the last I heard she was thinking of getting away from it all in Cornwall. The family was obviously devestated.

Anyway, I have just managed to find her, here I have looked before, I have so often wanted to contact her just to say that I still think of her and hope her to be ok. She is under agriculture, but your story, coupled with her sad experience and knowing her to be a truely lovely lady I hoping she might be prepared to help. Would you like me to email her? It would be my pleasure. xxx

bubble99 · 10/06/2005 21:33

It doesn't make for light reading. I warn you.

At the enquiry the senior MW showed me the point in the traces where I should have been taken to labour ward, hours before I eventually was. The consultant anaesthetist tried to show me the point on the traces, during the anaesthetic where Bo's heart rate went into free-fall and he died. I didn't want to see it.

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snafu · 10/06/2005 21:35

Bub, I am just fuming on your behalf (not terribly helpful, I know) and I really hope you start getting some answers and help via your MP. Anything we can do, you know you only have to ask. You are a bloody marvel and you deserve so much more than this pathetic, appalling shambles. xxxx

Flossam · 10/06/2005 21:37

Bubbles You really are an inspiration for your way of coping and dealing with it all. You amaze me.xxx

hunkermunker · 10/06/2005 21:37

Bubble - don't know what to say re consultant showing you the trace, but am in tears

bubble99 · 10/06/2005 21:41

Me too HM. They still come very easily.

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Flossam · 10/06/2005 21:43

Would contacting Sue be any help do you think Bubbles?

hermykne · 10/06/2005 21:44

oh bubble
its incongruous having your postings here alongside other possibly insincere silly things.
you are really great,
a really big hug to you.

swiperfox · 10/06/2005 21:48

To quote LGJ ...... "We will march on Westminster if needs be, and I am not joking"

Bubble I have followed your story and think about you an awful lot.

I haven't said too much but would like you to know that I'm behind you 100% and if at any point you need help with anything, at all, please give me a shout. xxxx

hellomama · 10/06/2005 21:49

be strong

bubble99 · 10/06/2005 21:56

Yes Floss. I think it would.

TBH I have put everything on a back burner for the last few weeks. This is the strange and horribly unique thing about losing a twin. I think of jangus who lost her only child and how empty she has felt. She has told me how often she has felt that she should be doing something ie. Looking after her baby. Her body and her mind were geared up to care for a baby and yet she came home without. For me it has been so different. I have a tiny baby so in that respect I am busy.

As some of you may know Mr Bubble and I have a daycare nursery business. This week the staff were taking the littlies out for a picnic and needed some pushchairs. Mr Bubble (with my blessing) took the twins pushchair that we had bought for our twins. I spent that morning in tears. Things like that will come and bite you on the bum even if you think you're dealing with it OK.

And yes hermy. It is inconruous. Performing ballet in the style of Black Sabbath on one thread and feeling like s**t over here. I often feel like this, when a word or thought can reduce me to tears and yet other days can pass with nothing but smiles.

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starlover · 10/06/2005 21:59

hi bubble.. i haven't really posted on any of your other threads, because tbh I just didn't know what to say... everyone else always seems so much more eloquent!

But I'd like you to know that if there is ANYTHING I can do then I'd be more than happy to help. If marching on Westminster is what it takes then count me in!

hermykne · 10/06/2005 22:00

oh bubble your twin buggy
i wish i could give you a real hug, but i am sure you have lots all day from your older ds and dh.

bubble99 · 10/06/2005 22:05

Yep! Lovely dribbley, snotty hugs. And that's just from DH

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galaxy · 10/06/2005 22:05

bubble, I haven't posted much on your threads before as I don't have the right words to say. I really admire you and echo LGJ in her words - I'm sure you would get lots of support in a "march on Westminster"

Flossam · 10/06/2005 22:14

Bubble, is there any chance you could CAT me with your real life name? And if anyone asks for me in the bar I am mid flow for your email. I'll send you a copy before I send it to see if you are happy with what I have written and also to see if you think it sounds ok, and not to OTT? Sorry, this makes more work for you dosen't it? I would rather you saw what I said first though IYSWIM.

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