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Psychomum is needing advice please - Psychodad's Grandma very very ill

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Flame · 08/05/2008 18:23

Psychomum's DH's Grandma (in her 90s) has had a heart attack and stroke.

Psycho is a bit of a state herself too (very close to in laws).

She has no idea how best to support DH, or how to handle telling the children etc

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copingvquietly · 08/05/2008 19:42

i wish i had something more to say.she has been holding me up and i just wish i could do the same for her
psycho i am thinking of you all and praying for you all.xxxxxx

Flame · 08/05/2008 19:49

Tis a whole big support circle though - she supports you, someone else supports her, some time down the line you support someone else

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Psychomum5 · 09/05/2008 00:07

grandma died at 11.05 this evening

I am very close to all my in-laws...they have been my family since MY family fucked me up......in-laws gave me back my self respect and made me the me I am today....along with DH of course!!!

I am struggling as this is the first time I have done this with someone I love so much.....deaths in my side of the family have left me cold, altho my uncle who bought me up was loved by me and grieved by me, it still never felt like this!!!

I never knew grief could be so intense.

how do I help DH tho.....

how do I help my children.....they are of an age to understand, but how much do I tell them???

and the funeral.....I want them to go, is that appropriate, should I not, should I ask them......I am at a loss what to do!!!

DH is eating right now.....his stomach has been in knots and could not eat today, he can now......grief for him is already different to me.....I cannot physically eat when stressed or anxious.

is there any right way with grief???

babbling, sorry.

BoysAreLikeDogs · 09/05/2008 00:15

Oh, psycho I am so sorry

Grief is unpredictable, numbness, anger, phsical pain in the pit of your stomach, crying, shock, all this and more

Telling the children will be hard. I told mine, when my dad died, in very simple terms, that they knew he was poorly, (they visited him many times in hosp during his illness) and that very sadly he had died. DS1 was 5 then he grasped it quite quickly, but DS2 aged 3 could not get his head around it.

You will not believe me right now, but the pain does lessen, over time, you get used to living in a different way.

Sorry for the essay

copingvquietly · 09/05/2008 00:16

[sda] hug xx

Psychomum5 · 09/05/2008 00:20

thankyou boys.....thankyou....I will see what tomorrow bring then with the children.

CQ.....your hugs mean a lot....thankyou sweetheart.

fletchaaarr · 09/05/2008 00:20

"how do I help DH tho....."
Be there for him

h"ow do I help my children.....they are of an age to understand, but how much do I tell them???" Tell them the basics, hold them and let them know it is ok to grieve

"and the funeral.....I want them to go, is that appropriate, should I not, should I ask them......I am at a loss what to do!!!"
i may be on my own but I always think that children should go to funerals, funerals are to say goodbye and children have as much right as anyone else to do that. We had children aged baby and toddler and school age at my grandads, and it was fine, and it helped

is there any right way with grief???
Not that I know of - not one right way - whatever right way is for you

BoysAreLikeDogs · 09/05/2008 00:21

You might not sleep tonight, but lying down, holding each other, is very comforting.

Take care

fletchaaarr · 09/05/2008 00:22

PS - while you are there posting and thinking about everyone else - please think of yourself too?

Psychomum5 · 09/05/2008 00:24

fletch....thankyou.

I am going to plan on the kiddies being there I think....I want them there, I will see how they feel....i think that is the fairest plan.....I like to think that grandma would want them there as they were her life!

DH....I will hold him and let him cry for now.....for the rest....I guess this is a learning curve for me....I hope I am there for him in the way he has been for me in the past.

mumoftwo37 · 09/05/2008 00:24

I am truly sorry psycho. My DH's grandma died 2 years ago and that was the first death in his family for 40years. I was just there for him iykwim. I let him lead me in what he wanted me to do in terms of support-we cried alot but we laughed too as she was such a character! My DS's were 11 and 9 at the time and we were very honest with them- they knew she had been ill and in a way they were relieved for her. They came to the funeral and behaved so well, they cried but were a huge support to my FIL & MIL.

There is no right or wrong way to grieve, just do what you feel is right. You and your family will have your own way.
I am so sorry for your loss and send you my love and best wishes, to all of your family.

WhatSheSaid · 09/05/2008 00:25

Psychomum, I'm so very sorry...

(i've been following CVQ's thread but not posting as I couldn't offer support and advice as well as those of you on there are already doing!)

Of course you should go to the funeral, I think. Both for yourself and to support your Dh.

I'm sorry I can't advise on what to tell children as my dc too young to know what happened when I recently went through a bereavement.

There's no right or wrong way to grieve. Bed very kind to yourself and don't expect too much of yourself. You dont' have to be "over" it by a certain time or whatever. To suppor your dh just listen whenever he wants to talk about it - though not everyone wants to talk - people grieve differently.

People may think that because it's an older person who has died it is not as much of a loss as they had a long life and it is more "natural" than a younger person dying. Of ocurse it is wonderful she had such a long life but it is still a huge loss and you are allowed to miss her and cry whenever you feel like it and wish she was still there to talk to.

Ultimately it just takes time - it's a cliche but really time is the only thing that heals grief. Until then, just take it easy and get through one day at a time.

Later on you may like to write her a letter telling her all that you appreciated about her - I found this helped, to get this dowin on paper. Also, if you have photos of her to maybe put together a photo album of them for memories.

But these last two suggestions are for in the future - over the next few days I imagine the priorities will be your family supporting each other and the practicalities like organising the funeral.

WhatSheSaid · 09/05/2008 00:28

Sorry I thought you asked if YOU should go the funeral.

I would say if the dcs want to go they should but not if they don't want to. All children are different and some would benefit from being there and some would not. Also depends on age of dcs.

Tortington · 09/05/2008 00:32

jstu seen this

sorry for your loss

Califrau · 09/05/2008 00:38

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snorris · 09/05/2008 00:47

I can't offer any practical advice (sorry ) but I just want to say sorry to hear of your loss and thinking of you.

onlyjoking9329 · 09/05/2008 06:36

so sorry to hear this, just be there for your Dh in whatever way you can, the kids should go to the funeral I think unless they dont want to, whilst you are supporting everyone else please try to allow yourself the time you need to think and feel.

Flame · 09/05/2008 07:55

The children are all old enough to know if they want to go or not - let them choose. DD1 may ask for S to go too. The boys will probably want to go for lack of school apart from anything

Everyone will be raw today. Is Man working? (Thinking he is a work through things kind of person). The children will probably be better at school and not seeing you grieving.

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Psychomum5 · 09/05/2008 07:56

thankyou all so much.....I think I am hiding my grief behind what to do......

I will be back after school run.....need to talk.

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Psychomum5 · 09/05/2008 07:57

flame....kiddies are going, altho J is being a bugger right now about it......can't handle him too well

man is working, he cannot stay home.....feels impotant for want of a better word...

I need to sob

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WingsofaAngel · 09/05/2008 08:07

I'm so very sorry for your loss.

Talking to dh is the best way IMO.

Tell the children that you are sad at the moment and they may see you and dh cry but it is ok to cry. When I told my two that my granddad died I told them that it was fine to be happy too and that they should remember the good things they had done with granddad.

I tried to keep things as normal as possible for them and they went to school and Dh told their teachers what had happened.

Flame · 09/05/2008 08:23

You need to keep active - sitting on MN is not going to help.

You still have medals coming up, so we are still going to the Range.

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copingvquietly · 09/05/2008 10:45

just leaving a

jingleyjen · 09/05/2008 10:46

Psycho, sending you huge hugs.

Psychomum5 · 09/05/2008 13:15

thankyou all for your messages...they are very comforting.

school has been wonderful....they are looking after the children and will be letting them draw pictures for grandma for us to send of with/to her. J was really upset about going......it seems that he was told off at school yesterday by a dinner lady (and not a very lovable one at that!), and his grief made that into his biggest fear......he is 5, he doesn;t really understand....he knows we are sad and why, but cannot put it into words, so school became the focus of his sadness.

I spoke to his helper lady, she was lovely. he took his 'blanky' in with him and they took him down after a good long hug.

I am collecting them all early today (the smaller ones) as I do not want the elder two girls coming home to an empty house....I feel there is nothing worse.

I am out of focus today........I have not really been on this path before....I have had grief in my life, but not this type.

grandma is not my grandma, she is my darling husbands (simon)......I was rejected by my family (long painful story not for here) and so grew up feeling quite alone......at 16 I met simon and his entire family accepted me and absorbed me and made me their own. it is for that reason that I feel as tho I have lost my grandma, not 'just' an in-law if that makes sense??

the chldren have been wonderful so far tho......they are much more accepting really, altho this is the first day so time will tell, and give us all different focus's and ways of dealing with our grief......I will 'go with the flow' and see what comes....all this is new to me.

today and next week will be full of practical details....MIL is an only child and the only one left from 'her' side of the family, so we are all in this together....does that make sense, I am not sure?? I am the onky one also who does not work, so I want to be there for her to help all the others carry on as they all need to....I have the children, but during the day I can take some of the load off of MIL....not least because she also has heart problems and is recovering herself from an op just 4wks ago.

she does have wonderful friends tho, so she is drawing comfort from them, as is she from FIL......he too is fab, like his son (my dh) in fact!

all the children will be going to the funera, but flame may be having the boys for the wake, as MIL is fretting about their boredom levels.....the wake will be held and the church that grandma attended, so not like a garden for them to let off steam in. we will see....they will surely surprise me on the day!

to give you background on grandma.......she was 96, still live alone, still cooked for herself, still caught the bus almost weekly to go watch bournemouth play (she had a life long season ticket as grandad was very big in the football world many years ago before he died)....she was always found sat with her flask of whisky at a home game on the warmer days, altho still wrapped in her blanket...she was a very active lady!!

she went in the best way possible I guess (if there can be a 'best way')....she had a stroke in the morning and her daughter found her still lucid and they could speak. an ambulance was called and she then had a heart attack, which they brought her back from.

she fought long enought thro the day for ua all to go and say our goodbyes, and then she went to sleep to be with her beloved husband.

she has done what she was destined on this earth to do, and she leaves a wonderful legacy of a fantastic daughter, two wonderful grandsons and eight utterly amazing grand children.

I am proud to have known her, and honoured to have been given a place in her family.