FITH PREGNANCY, WITH FOUR M/C'S...HELP

[melliek]

Hi everyone, its been quite awhile since i've been on but her goes. I am on pregnancy #5 and scared to death. I have not had a sucessful pregnancy yet, It always seems to stop growing at around 7 1/2 weeks. This is my fourth pregnancy in one year and the docs have started there testing but nothing yet. Is there hope? Has someone else suffered from reacurante m/c's and finally had a baby?
It is really hard not to get my hopes up , like I did last time ---and was dissapointed in the end. Please, someone, anyone, this must happen to others with a happy ending...right?

Hi Melliek

Sorry long message

I just joined and notice your message, I do understand, what your are going through. We been trying for 6 years, I have poly cycstic ovaries and one ovarie, I have had 1 miscarriage at 9 weeks and an ectopic pregnancy with an ovary removed at 8 weeks. This year after going to fertitly for 3 years, the last hospital wern't very nice, and started tests again got pregnant at the post cotital test and even the consultant was amazed. I'm now nearly 25 weeks pregnant, keeping fingers and toes crossed and we also hired out a doppler to stopped me going up the wall worrying about the baby. I just wanted to give you hope and be positive, I know iti is so difficult and heart breaking, and I'm eexcatly like you about trying to keep my hopes up. I'm thinking of you and hope everything goes well

Take CAre

Suzanne

Melliek, how are you?

i have no experience at all of this but i really wish you lots of luck and good wishes. keep posting xxx

Hi Melliek, Honeybeez, Light, everyone...
Thinking of you. Hoping it works out.
Reading your posts I really do think I'm one of the lucky ones so far... only 1 m/c so far, very early on after 2 months of trying, got pg again 3 months later and am now 11.3 weeks (will be first baby if all works out). Lost something which looked a bit like a clot today (with no other bleeding, bizarre) and had a scan and baby is fine. I've had spotting of every colour throughout the pregnancy and am lucky to have a great doctor who's given me umpteen scans - there was never a cause found for the spotting, but baby is OK. I know how hard this pg has been for me so far with only 1 m/c behind me, so I can just imagine how difficult it is for you. Hope all is well.
Melliek, I know how worrying it must be, but if it helps: 60% still means that the majority of women in your position will have a healthy full term baby - or, put a different way, that your pregnancy is more likely to succeed than to miscarry.

Well ladies, I went for my scan on Wed. Once again, there was no heartbeat. It stoped growing at 8 weeks and a few days. The tech doing the ultrasound didn't even have to tell me because I could tell that there was no h/b and no blood flow in the fetus. I went directly to the emergency department to see about having this dealt with. They ended up putting the pill on my cervix to soften it which gave me cramps about three hours later, then, to make things even worse I started to pass tissue, hudge pieces of tissue. Some were as big as my fist and I lost it with that. I was bleeding so much that I couldnt help but panic and loose it. I had hoped that I passed all of the fetus but after the doc checked me It was only blood clots that had been passed so I still had to have a d&c. I think I got home close to 1am.
This one was by far the worse, and I really have lost every inch of life inside of me. I had absolutely no spotting, no cramping and still my baby is gone. Each other m/c I still felt hope in the end, I still knew that there was a light at the end of the tunnel but this time.....I feel empty. I am crushed . I knew the day that I was going for the scan that it wasn't going to be good, I could feel it, and now, something is telling me deep inside of me that I will not be able to have children. I can feel it in my bones.

It's just not right, no symptoms, no sign and still I have failed at something that women are here to do. I just dont understand it. I dont know what to think , what to do. I can feel myself slipping down deep into depression and I cant stop it.
I am sorry for this to be so long and so solome. I do thank everyone who has been here with me to give me hope and encouragment.

Oh melliek, I am so so sorry. My heart really goes out to you. There is nothing I can say to make thinks right for you but I am thinking of you and hoping you find away to cope with this terrible thing. Have you got someone with you who can understand?

Can you get a referral for some counselling or support of some kind?

Dear melliek, so sorry to hear what you have gone through. Please don't think that you have failed at what women are here to do , yes, something seems to be going wrong but that doesn't mean that you are failing.I know that you said in your first post that the doctors have started testing so I hope that they will find a cause to this. I don't know if you are in the mood for annecdotes but an aquaintence of mine suffered from something very similar, she could get pregant reasonably easily, then at around 8/9 weeks the baby stopped growing. I don't think she ever miscarried, like you it was found on scan each time (at least3 timesIIRC) in the end it was something to do with her and her husbands' blood that was causing this . she went on to have 2 healthy pregnancies where she had some injections during the first part of the pregnancies. I will be keeping my fingers crossed that the doctors will be able to help you too. x

Oh Melliek, I am so so sorry. I really don't know what else to say. I am so very very sorry.
You are not failing - you are a mother and sadly, so terribly sadly, something is going wrong with your pregnancies, but this is not failure on your part. You are so very brave, going through this awful thing again and again.
How can I/we support you? Where are you sweetheart? I'm abroad so doubt I can be much immediate/practical use apart from trying to support you on here, but if you would like to email me please do let me know - as I said I haven't been through what you've been through, but I'd like to do anything I can. Do you have anyone with you now to support you?
I've got Lesley Regan's miscarriage book (you may have it yourself already) and I don't want to foist anything on you now, but if at any point you would like any specific advice or information please do let me know.
God bless.

I have only just seen this and am very very sorry to hear this Melliek. Words are not enough.
Have you read Lesley Regan yet??? It will encourage you to go to her and have further tests. I rememer 8 weeks being a landmark for certain conditions and this can be identified. I know you won;t have the strength just yet to go for this but I know you find the strength somewhere to do it. You can get pregnant, they just need to establish the cause for your losses. You will get lots of suppport when you do get pg again from them. They look after you so well. I know I was comforted by the fact I could go and have tests done and I would have done evrything in my power to have a baby. It SO tough but I will be watching out for your posts. xxxxxx{{{{}}}}}

Melliek I am so sorry. I have had 5 losses too and ma now 9 weeks pg - do not know if this will be OK. I have had a load of tests locally and my plan was always to ask for a referral to St Mary's recurrent miscarriage clinic in london (they have a web page) as a next step. Lesley Regan, whom everyone is meintioning,heads it up. The plan was always to keep on trying until one was successful. I have had a condition identified: Factor V Leiden. Feel free to email me privately if you want to chat more. I also joined the Miscarriage Association (they have a web page). And as I mentioned in myprevious post, I also planned to see Dr Hassan Shehata. There was an article in The Times on Saturday last year about a woman who miscarried 6 times and was then treated successfully by Dr Shehata. He pioneers research into women with high levels of NK cells (natural killer cells - aprt of the immune system). If you need to see The Times article or want the links do let me know.

This was not the article I meant - kept that but cannot find it. Anyway here goes - it is close enough

AFTER 19 miscarriages a woman has finally given birth to a daughterafter an experimental treatment to stop her body from rejecting thebaby.Annette Quinlan, 42, said yesterday that she was overjoyed to beholding two-week-old Niamh after 14 years of repeated miscarriages.Mrs Quinlan, a psychiatric nurse from Chester, said: "I was preparedto carry on because I wanted a baby so much. My message to otherwomen in my situation is to keep going, there is hope."Normal treatments failed to help Mrs Quinlan so she was referred tothe miscarriage unit at Liverpool Women's Hospital, where she becameone of the first to benefit from research conducted by SiobhanQuenby, a consultant obstetrician.Dr Quenby discovered that Mrs Quinlan had a rare condition in whichthe lining of the womb contained an abnormal number of antibodiesthat fight the body's own tissue. This made it hostile to thedevelopment of the embryo.Roy Farquharson, head of the miscarriage unit, said: "We believedthat these were causing her womb to attack the embryo and destroy theplacenta in the same way that the body sometimes rejects a new organafter transplant."Doctors gave her a steroid called prednisolone, which suppresses theimmune system, and although she continued to miscarry, thepregnancies started to last longer.Last year, she miscarried twins at eight weeks, but quickly becamepregnant again.This time the pregnancy lasted beyond the three-month danger periodand Niamh was born a few weeks prematurely. "She was definitely worthwaiting for," Mrs Quinlan said.

my friend had 2 m/c and this time the doctors have put her on a quarter of a disolvable asprin everyday as when she is pg her blood thickens there stops blood getting to her baby. So far she is 15 weeks and all is well not sure wether this will help but maybe you could discuss it with your doctor.
my thoughts are with you xxxx

Hi,I no what your going through I had 2 normal pregnancys with no probs then I has 5 misses all were early missed miscarriages I could not get passed 10 weeks.After the 3rd one I had loads of tests but they could find nothing wrong.By chance my consultant had a friend who was doing research into reccurant misses and I was asked if I,d like to participate.This was in 1996 and I saw a Lesley Regan at the Middlesex hospital.One simple blood test later (apparently the blood has to be tested within 2 hours or you get a neg result hence why local hosp didnt find it )
they found I have Lupus anti coagulant antibodies that cause excessive clotting and cause the baby to die through lack of placental oxygen.I was told to take asprin 3 months before conceiving but I still lost the pregnancy so on the 5 attempt I took the asprin as before and at 6 weeks pregnant I had to inject Heparin to thin my blood.The result a perfect healthy baby.All this took 5 years to sort out.I have since had another baby using the same medication via my local hosp
The only downside was I had to have a section for both babys becuase of the risks of bleeding due to heparin.You cant take the Heparin before 6 weeks as it stops the baby implanting properly.Please get yourself referred to a large teaching hospital they can diagnose the rarer reasons why miscarriage can occur and perhaps like me one simple blood teat is all you will need to sort out a very disstressing problem.

Im so sorry to hear your sad story Melliek. But the most important thing is that you must never give up hope and allways remember that it is not your fault! I have suffered a m/c myself and know how absolutely crushing it is. However I now have a beautiful son. Remember never ever give up hope and keep smiling although I know it is hard. My heart goes out to you. Scorpio x

Hey all...its melliek again here.Well...ive had all tests done and there is no prob what so ever.The only thing that they did find was that I have fibroids in my uterus(nothing too close to cause m/c) So, now, i am pregnant again with my 6th baby. I am currently 6wks, spotted alittle early on but other than that fine. I am seeing my nurse tomorrow and going to ask her to try me on progestorone supplements. I mean really, what do i have to loose right. At this point i will try anything.
Thanks again for the wonderful support, as there is nothing here for support groups. Wish me luck all!

melliek - i'm hardly ever on mn anymore but saw this and thought it might be you - I wish you all the luck in the world for this pregnancy, no one should have to go through what you've experienced - and I hope to hear your good news v v soon. I don't know if you remember, but I've had 3 m/c and we finally got lucky in Dec last year when dd2 was born. I will be thinking of you
hana
x

Didn't know you before - as I only joined MN in December - but really hope that everything goes ok this time round

Melliek, I hope that everything goes well for you.
xx jangus

good luck and let us know how you are getting on xxxxxxx

melliek.......[[[[[[[[hugs]]]]]]]] loads of best wishes being sent to you...good luck hunny

I'll keep my fingers crossed for you - good luck x x

how did you get on at your appt melliek?