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DD 18 months stopped breathing - please help

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brandybutterfly · 27/12/2009 18:30

DD and I were at a friend's house.

She started crying and didn't breathe for ages, went floppy in my arms, lips turned purple and face went a blue-y colour.

I was blowing on her face and she finally took a breath. She's fine now but this is not the first time it's happened, last time was at the dr's when she was having jabs and the nurse said, "Does this happen often?"

It was awful, any suggestions if it happens again?

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noddyholder · 27/12/2009 19:50

cat you are making an arse of yourself by persisting with this

MollieO · 27/12/2009 19:50

So why are you sure it is physical not behavioural? Is there a family history? If I were you I would call NHS direct as they could advise you or call your out of hours GP service. If my ds had done something similar and I was certain it was physical I would be doing something now to get it sorted.

I would also keep a record of what she was doing before, how long it took to get her to come round and how she was afterwards.

smallorange · 27/12/2009 19:51

Am also stuck in roadworks on m6 so feeling snippy.

And no, I'm not driving.

Anyway I apologise for swearing,

blinks · 27/12/2009 19:51

and i'm so sorry to hear about the loss of your child. that must have been unimaginably painful.

motherbeyond · 27/12/2009 19:56

cat what crawled up your arse?!! fucks sake,am sure op will go to the gp's tomorrow but the great thing about mn is the wide spectrum of experience from which you can pick teeny nuggets of reasurance.lots and lots of mums/h.v's/mdwf's/g.p's are members...hence,advice!

i would have absoloutely SHAT myself if this had happened to any of my dc's.you can tell from the tone of the op that she was terrified.so i think it's particularly uneccessary of you to be cruel to her.

then she tells you about her first dd and you're STILL shit to her..that,is ice cold.happy xmas!

if you want to be a bitch...go over to aibu

op as i said, i too would have been utterly horrifiedn if my baby had stopped breathing and turned blue.A similar thing happened to my dd around the same age,but she was still concsious.we took her to a&e,and they admitted her and ran lots of tests.it was a really awful time,so you have my sympathy.
i really would urge you to take her to doc's tomorrow,if they're concerned they'll send you in to hoz to run some tests.

as other, more experienced mums have suggested though,it does sound likely it's the holding the breath tantrummy thing doesn't it?hope she grows out of it soon!

am dreadfully sorry to hear about your first little girl.

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brandybutterfly · 27/12/2009 19:57

blinks noddy small and others - again, thank you. small do not apologise for swearing, I am not offended at all and hopefully it'll bring the query back to the important stuff.

blinks that's so reassuring to know but she doesn't do it every day, will make appt with dr. (DD1 had Turner's so we knew she was ill but some Turners survive.)

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brandybutterfly · 27/12/2009 19:59

Oh, the majority of you are just lovely, am so touched.

I didn't come on here to post about DD1 but thank you for your well wishes.

Am reading every message!

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Pantofino · 27/12/2009 20:02

Ooh you need Belgo, who is a trained medical professional, and who has experienced such things with two of her dcs. She is probably off line til new year though. But both the dcs are absolutely fine and healthy.

I know she had experienced these things after a minor accident. Little bang on the head for example vs unconsciousness, and struggled to get a diagnosis. Her elder dd has grown out of it.....

catinthehat2 · 27/12/2009 20:13
GracieW · 27/12/2009 21:31

bump

motherbeyond · 27/12/2009 21:36

apologies for typo's and spelling...am nursing poorly tot whilst tying.
brandy,hope you're reassured..happy xmas

thisisyesterday · 27/12/2009 21:38

also worth bearing in mind is that the child was seen doing this in front of a nurse.

the nurse clearly didn't appear worried, so perhaps the OP just tohught it was "one of tyhose things" or was less concerned, because she had been seen by an HP?

so perfectly reasonable to come on here and ask before rushing off to the GP or a&e!!!

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brandybutterfly · 27/12/2009 22:06

motherbeyond am feeling much better now thank you, hope your DC is better soon!

this that's absolutely right, I am so relieved that what I was trying to say is clear enough. The nurse certainly didn't suggest seeing anyone else or even that it may happen again so I wasn't too concerned (and obviously we were in the best place for any help!)

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pigletmania · 28/12/2009 14:32

Brandy you do need to see your GP asap, it might not be anything but better be safe. If it does happen again go straight to A&E dont not do anything.

pigletmania · 28/12/2009 14:42

Itsmelord Why have you not sought medical advice if this has happened before? hmm

Iam sure that itsme did not mean to be horrible but just asking an obvious question.

FanjolinaJolie · 28/12/2009 18:06

I have witnessed a friends child under the age of two hold breath during a tantrum. He turned very pale/blue eyes rolled back and collapsed like a house of cards. Probably lasted about 45 seconds then started breathing/moving and 'woke up'. I was really shocked to witness this.

The mum was unphased as it had happened a few times before. Nothing to worry about in his case as it was behavioural.

ShinyAndNew · 28/12/2009 18:22

My sister used to do this. The doctors never thought it was a problem, because like stated in that other info given, when they pass out thier breathing returmns to normal.

Dd2 does it sometimes during tantrums, untill she turns bright purple, but always stops before she goes floppy/blue. But it's scary as hell. So I understand the title and the panick.

As others said, it's fairly normal, but if your worried see your GP. I don't think there is any need to be rushing off to A and E right now though.

thesecondcoming · 28/12/2009 18:51

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brandybutterfly · 29/12/2009 11:33

THANK YOU EVERYONE!!

Took DD to dr yesterday. Oxygen levels good - tonsils enlarged and chest a bit rackety but other than that she is fine.

Truly hope it doesn't happen again though - as thesecond says it is the most indescribably horrendous thing to go through.

Cannot thank you all enough. Very unMN hugs to you all (even cat - hey - maybe you were having a bad day ) xxx

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Rindercella · 29/12/2009 11:47

Brandy, really happpy to read that your DD has been checked and everything is ok. It must have been so worrying for you, especially after the tragic loss of your first DD.

Relating to the pedantry on this thread - does anyone really believe that a mother would post on MN if her child wasn't breathing rather than seeking immediate medical attention?

differentnameforthis · 29/12/2009 12:01

Brandy, my dd used to do this. She would do it after crying v hard after a fall etc. It is VERY worrying, I know.

Some things I was told...

That once a child passes out from not breathing, the body will automatically kick start again. And she should start breathing within seconds.

It won't necessarily mean that she will have tantrum related breath holding.

If she doesn't start breathing within seconds (and I mean 3 or 4, not 30 odd) you should seek medical help.

what made dd breath was placing her on her back gently, but so she felt it, if that makes sense. Breathing worked sometimes, but not all.

Also, the coldest water you can, dip her feet in it.

I say a child youth nurse, as I wanted some advice & also wanted it on record for future reference.

I hope you are feeling better now.

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