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DD 18 months stopped breathing - please help

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brandybutterfly · 27/12/2009 18:30

DD and I were at a friend's house.

She started crying and didn't breathe for ages, went floppy in my arms, lips turned purple and face went a blue-y colour.

I was blowing on her face and she finally took a breath. She's fine now but this is not the first time it's happened, last time was at the dr's when she was having jabs and the nurse said, "Does this happen often?"

It was awful, any suggestions if it happens again?

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Twinklenips · 27/12/2009 19:08

So? What did she say you had to do?

noddyholder · 27/12/2009 19:09

nail sorry

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brandybutterfly · 27/12/2009 19:12

twinkle she suggested blowing in her face, which I was doing.

Am so glad some of you have been through it so you understand, I don't think it was wilful tantruming (sp?) though, more like those who are saying they just forget to breathe.

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MollieO · 27/12/2009 19:12

Have to say that the thread title reads as if the 'stopping breathing' has happened now and the OP has chosen to post on MN rather than call 999. Would be better to change it to "18 month toddler holding breath until turns blue". That would make readers understand that this is not an event happening at this precise moment.

thatsnotmymonster · 27/12/2009 19:14

Brandy- don't take any notice of those being horrible. I posted a while ago for medical advice and just got told off for asking online instead of going to GP isn't MN for asking for advice?

Anyway as others have said it is most likely to be temper tantrum related breath holding which she should grow out of and is not dangerous, just very upsetting to witness.
It is still worthwhile taking to your gp about it which I ma sure you would do anyway.

Twinklenips · 27/12/2009 19:14

The FFS is because a toddler stopped breathing in front of a nurse. Apparently, she had no advice to stop it happening again.

StealthPolarBear · 27/12/2009 19:15

I think DS started doing it because of pain - the first time was when he crawled off our futon (flat) I tried explaining to the doctor, english not first language, and I'm sure he thought he'd fallen off a full sized bed. I couldn't see any injuries or marks but he did scream first, he was only 6 months.
Later on it definitely became a tantrum thing/

noddyholder · 27/12/2009 19:15

My mum was told my sister was doing it to take herself out of the situation she didn't like.So instead of face the nail cutting she would black out.

MollieO · 27/12/2009 19:16

I would say at 18 months it is more likely to be wilful.

If you think the cause is physical rather than you should be seeking immedicate medical help imo. With ds for the first 5 weeks I didn't know if squeezing his foot would work. Often he had to be revived by nursing staff (he was still in hospital). He was only allowed to go home when he could constantly be revived by the foot squeezing and I had a mattress alarm.

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brandybutterfly · 27/12/2009 19:16

Mollie it says "stopped breathing" (past tense) not "stopping breathing" (current).

FFS, do you really think I'd be on here while my child was going blue?

And the vast number of MNetters have not read it like this.

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thatsnotmymonster · 27/12/2009 19:16

I read the title and presumed that the event had happened recently and was now ok. Most rational people would not post on here in a medical emergency unless there was no other option.

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brandybutterfly · 27/12/2009 19:26

Thank you thatsnotmymonster

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MollieO · 27/12/2009 19:26

Stopped breathing sounds like it is happening now. Stopping breathing sounds like an on going issue imo.

I would assume you would not be posting whilst waiting to get an ambulance but you wouldn't be the first if you had .

Why do you think it is physical and not behavioural? If you think it is physical why haven't you sort medical help before, especially if she has done it several times?

anonandlikeit · 27/12/2009 19:27

Sorry Twinkle i thought the FFS was aimed at the OP & couldn't understand why!

Brandy, i assumed from the title that it was a past tense & not a 999 emergency.

MollieO · 27/12/2009 19:30

Should add when ds stopped breathing I would shout 'HELP, DS HAS STOPPED BREATHING'.

smallorange · 27/12/2009 19:31

Could it be an anoxic seizure? My dd2 has them in response to minor trauma- jags, trapped finger, to much excitement. Sometimes she fits, sometimes she just flops. Worth looking up- I think there is a support group called stars or summat. If youbthink it's this it's worth getting a referral to a neurologist who will do an ECG. Go back to GP.

It's terrifying, isn't it. And good to have some online support.

Some of the frankly nasty people on this forum need to get a grip or fuck off.

MmeherewegoawassailLindt · 27/12/2009 19:31

BrandyB
don't get caught up in a silly argument with posters who misread your OP. You need the reassurance that what your DD is doing is not so unusual, an to learn tactics how to deal with it.

I would definitely make an appointment to see your GP and ask him for a referral to a paediatrician just to set your mind at rest. Particularly as you have already lost a DD, he should be able to refer you I shiuld think. I am sorry about your first DD. Knowing that you have gone through that, I have to say how well you are dealing with this.

giraffespullthesleigh · 27/12/2009 19:33

sounds like reflex anoxic seizure

noddyholder · 27/12/2009 19:34

God what a load of ridiculous pedantry over tense when someone is just asking for some advice about a stressful situation Ignore if you don't like!

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brandybutterfly · 27/12/2009 19:34

mollie she hasn't done it several times before - just once, in the dr's surgery, in front of a nurse.

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smallorange · 27/12/2009 19:38

Anoxic seizures are harmless BTW

thisisyesterday · 27/12/2009 19:40

oh for goodness sake

i read it as the child had stopped breathing at some point in the past and the op wanted some advice,

which turned out to be the case. even fi you read it differently, then reading the actual post would have made you realise that, so why all the ridiculous accusations flying?

god it's a sad day on here when someone posting for advice gets flamed for someone else mis-reading the bloody title.

catinthehat2 · 27/12/2009 19:44

Lovely attitude Smallorange.

As MollieO says:
"Stopped breathing sounds like it is happening now. Stopping breathing sounds like an on going issue imo.
would assume you would not be posting whilst waiting to get an ambulance but you wouldn't be the first if you had"

Some posters do indeed have serious problems with their children's health. THey deal with them by asking professionals - particularly if they have one right in front of them when something is going off - and by asking for ADVICE and SUGGESTIONS after the event from other MNers who know the deal. Not by implying a blue light is needed.

smallorange · 27/12/2009 19:48

I could say the same for you, cat.

blinks · 27/12/2009 19:49

ignore the fuckwittery brandy.

i work for NHS24 and 'has baby stopped breathing today' is one of our initial safety questions for babies/toddlers with breathing concerns... chances are you'll be assessed straight away.

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