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DD aged 2 is really really whineya dn very tired.

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pavlovthecat · 02/01/2009 17:34

She is out of sorts, her sleep is up the spout as a result of jetleg, she went to bed at 8pm last night, but actually had a nap! Woke 2 hours later, up until 3-30am-4am or so. Went to sleep, woke up at 11am, crabby as a crab stick all day, she wont eat, is drinking tons and tons and tons of milk (2 pints in last 24 hours), keeps falling over, just wants to sleep. We can't let her sleep more (she had an hour nap, we woke her half hour ago) as we need to get her sleep back on track, poor love, the only place she is settling is in our suitcase, and she is crying, wanting milk.

She just seems very miserable today, not her usual happy self. When she is not miserable, she is manic and running around. We went to sainsburys for lunch, she tipped DHs hot tea pot and poured in into my coffee cup - she never touches hot stuff, she knows not to, (and it was not in her reach, she stood up on the chair to lean over the table and get at it) and she did it with that manic, you cant stop me type of look in her eye, then chucked her drink on the floor, and ran off laughing! .

It has been a fucking shit day today. But I have kept calm and not shown. Maybe she can sense it anyway, combined with everything else. Today I would quite like family near us, so they can help a bit.

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MrsClausinJimmyChoos · 02/01/2009 17:41

Pav - can't post much as jst grabbing a few minutes before DS comes back with my sis.

I'm in Plymouth atm - text me if you can?

I've had days like that with DS too and I swear that even if you don't show it, they can sense it and they play on it. She may also be getting a cold - DS drinks a lot, sleeps a lot and is generally out of sorts when he's sickening for something.

I'm with you on the family thing - I feel same when am in Bristol - I hate it!

PS MIL passed away New Year's Eve

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pavlovthecat · 02/01/2009 17:45

Oh did she? I am so sorry to hear that Jimmy - I will text you in a bit, perhaps we can catch up for a coffee. How is your DH? How are you? Are you going to go over?

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pavlovthecat · 02/01/2009 18:03

DD is eating ice cream and blueberries, second helping, although I only put a smidge of ice cream in. She was insistent that have a particular spoon, sits in a particular seat, and is pretending to gag/be sick with it . But eating, nevertheless.

She might be coming down with something. I hope not. But heyho, thats life if it does.

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whomovedmychocolate · 02/01/2009 18:07

Bugger! My DD is in bed at six pm. For no apparent reason. She's been tired all day. Hope she's not getting whatever it is DS has had otherwise it will be poop city tomorrow

You've done well to stay calm, things will get better.

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pavlovthecat · 02/01/2009 18:09

thanks wmmc - I am sure they will get better. At least with DD. She just needs to get back into routine, and thats going to take time I guess.

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whomovedmychocolate · 02/01/2009 18:17

Mine is apparently back up but I'm studiously pretending to be doing the company accounts so DH is dealing with her .

Hope yours gets back to normal too - I'm finding that 2 is an interesting age to be.

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pavlovthecat · 02/01/2009 18:19

yes indeed it is. She spends much of her time asking:

  1. what doing?
  2. Why?
  3. Where's that come from? (anything she happens to be pointing at
  4. why?
  5. whats that?
  6. why?
  7. why?
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whomovedmychocolate · 02/01/2009 18:40

We have 'that's mine', 'yuck' and 'pain in the bum' (said of DS by myself in an unguarded moment) on permanent rotation at the minute

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pavlovthecat · 02/01/2009 19:30

WMMC - DD swore the other day, I shant repeat what she said, but at the airport, DH was stressed about waiting for the stroller at other end, and it meant us being at back of immigration queue - he said something inappropriate and DD copied it, loudly, and very very clearly, with the same inflection. I was mortified, DH was very apologetic, luckily it has not been repeated [phew].

DD loves, 'smiiiiiine' too!

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pavlovthecat · 02/01/2009 20:14

Oh great. She is tired, she says she is tired, and she is refusing to go to bed unless she sleeps in her suitcase . She is having a major tantrum and we have not even started bedtime routine yet. I feel that I am not going to get her to bed at a respectable time this evening. I need to eat, need to tidy, need to sleep, need some space, DH is out. fuck great.

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MrsClausinJimmyChoos · 02/01/2009 21:26

Pav - how's it going?? If its any consolation, DS is still up - whinging at me from his cot..

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pavlovthecat · 02/01/2009 21:29

She just will not sleep. She has hysterics at going into her own bedroom, and wanted to sleep in the suitcase ! I have managed to persuade her not to, and only by letting her sleep in our bed. Which she is not doing. She has been up 3 times with some excuse or another, I have read to her, patted her bottom, she has had milk and is very tired. I can now hear russling in my bedroom and am going to now go in and move her to her own bed as I told her would happen. She is going to scream the place down, bang on the door etc etc and I have had enough to be honest. DH and I have not had a great day, and I now need some space and a beer.

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Leo9 · 02/01/2009 21:33

Cor I hope the holiday that gave her jetlag was a very good one!!!

I think I would put her in her room and just lay down on the floor next to her if this was me. Might be one way of settling her and starting to get the routine back? Take beer in and take surreptitious sips!!!

MrsClausinJimmyChoos · 02/01/2009 21:34

Oh its really hard, I do sympathise... there have been times when DS has been so tired he's missed his sleep window and gone into meltdown and the only thing has been to leave him to it for a minute or so...he usually just stops and collapses in a tired heap pretty quickly...Ive had head banging from him before though, biting his hand, peeling the border paper off, tipping the cot...its really hard...sometimes leaving them is the only thing!

MrsClausinJimmyChoos · 02/01/2009 21:35

Ooh! Let her sleep in suitcase and tip into cot when she's asleep

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pavlovthecat · 02/01/2009 21:45

Jimmy - sometimes I leave her. but also she looks tired, she is not sleepy, you know how they sometimes go really relaly manic when tired, well that is DD normally when she is tired. But now, she is not like that, she is just, awake and refusing to go to bed. I let her sleep in the suitcase yesterday (or rather I passed out in front of the tele at 3am and then she did too) and thats the problem now I think. She also slept with us most of the trip away as she did not want to sleep in her own bed there, not used to it.

Leo9 - she has upped a gear in development since we have been away, and we think she is having a growth spurt too, we were away in New York with family - she literally just got used to the time difference the day before we left to come back, I was an almost permanent zombie the entire time as she woke at 5am every day (the odd 7am, the odd 3am).It was a fantastic trip as we spent christmas with our family, in particular with her cousin who is only 3 months younger than her, and she just ran, and ran and played and played, and she went ice skating, and fed ducks in central park, and it was so much for her, I think being back to normal is a major bump for her, and her awareness and understanding of her own power and relation in the world has changed so fast. I think it is worth it, but wish oh wish they did not live so far away .

I am going to try to settle her in her bed, as you say, with my beer hidden . She just keeps making excuses, I need to go wee wee, I need poo poo, I hungry mama, hungry belly mama. Now she is in the hallway singing Peppa Pig Oink.

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Leo9 · 02/01/2009 21:54

{grin] It does sound very worth it pavlov!

I think TBH you might have to come over a bit strict and tell her you'll only stay with her if she lays down! She sounds a bit like she doesn't know what to do with herself and needs you to firmly show her where the line is.

Good luck, enjoy the beer!

MrsClausinJimmyChoos · 02/01/2009 22:00

Pav - sounds like DD has worked out how to play her parents! DS has with us too and man, its exhausting! Everything lately is a battle - nappy change, dressing, feeding - you name it, he can make a drama out of it! He's still awake as I'm typing this!

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pavlovthecat · 02/01/2009 22:06

She is in bed, not settling at all with me in there. I made a coffee instead of a beer, as I think its going to be a long haul here. Again.

So far it has gone thus:

'peppa pig oink, i love peppa pig, mama come in play mama pig'
'mama?'
Mama?
'mama! peppa pig goes play it with me pleeeeeeeeease mama'
'some muttering to herself'
'Mammmmmma (crying), mammmma! Help me, wail wail wail wail wail' door banging
'oooooow mamma, ooow ooow ooow'
'oh, hello baby Holly, sorry, don;t cry shh shh shh'
'wail wail wail'

and now she is currently arguing with a bear or something 'NO! MY turn, not your turn, MINE' much growling going on....

I am going to buy some things with money I do have to cheer myself up and ignore any door beatings.

Jimmy - oh at least its not just me then! I bet he is still cute with it though eh?

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MrsClausinJimmyChoos · 02/01/2009 22:11
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pavlovthecat · 02/01/2009 22:13

at Jimmy

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MrsClausinJimmyChoos · 02/01/2009 22:17

Pav - I think its most likely the habit of staying in with you on the hols. DS has got into the habit of late nights due to Xmas and too much farking choc lying around (he opens the tins by himself and I walk in to find him mid raid!!) and its a hard habit to break!

Try taking her for a long walk tomorrow and knacker her out. Then see if she will fall asleep on time and in her bed - she maybe too tired to protest iyswim?

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pavlovthecat · 02/01/2009 22:21

she is banging at the door now shouting, wailing crying 'help me mama, please mama, help me mama' Her crying and wailing is not in the least bit sleepy wailing.

At which point do I cal DH and tell him to come home and give me a break? He has had a horrid horrid day today and needs a break himself really, some space to sort his head out, hence why he is out. He said call him if I need him to come home, intially he said 'if by midnight you need me back' but then said 'anytime you need me back' given that I went to bed at 4:30am yesterday. (well technically I fell asleep on sofa sometime after 3am, does that count?).

Tomorrow morning, she is waking up at 7am, I do not care how tired she is, or how grumpy she is. She is having her normal routine back tomorrow, she will get up at 7am, nap at 1pm and go to bed at 7pm. No sleeping in like today. Hmph.

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MrsClausinJimmyChoos · 02/01/2009 22:22

I would call him now tbh - how long has he had out atm?

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pavlovthecat · 02/01/2009 22:27

7pm. He was planning x-box session, and he is also jetlagged, so if I do not call at all he will be home sometime around 2am I think . he is fine with me calling him, but I am wondering what he will do that I am not, I will still have to listen to her yelling, as he wont get her up, and I would prefer he did not have to come back this evening until he is ready. BUT, I am getting very frustrated,and I do not know how long she is likely to be awake for, if yesterday was anything go by.

If she is just trying it on, great, this will work and she will eventually go to sleep, but if she really is all out of sorts still and is wide awake, I don;t want her crying and being upset on her own for hours.

I am thinking they can all visit from USA to here next time.

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