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my 9 year hold has develeoped a desire to were thongs because of a sort of peer-pressure, however i think she is to young for that sort of thing. what is the point? she says her ordinary knickers are too unconfortable. she already has started puberty, is that something to do with it?

Well I may be called old fashioned but I think thongs are for adults only. I would guess you are right about peer pressure, and her reason about her knickers being uncomfortable is her excuse for wanting them, but not the reason. I have an almost 11 year old daughter, and if she asks for them it will be a point blank no, with no discussion. I hate the majority of clothes aimed at kids today, they are mini versions of adult themes, and too provocative. I feel lucky that where we have moved to the children are happy being just that, unlike where we moved from , where they were smoking ,drinking and trying to be adults by 12.

I agree with lou33, but may be a bit old fashioned too. I think she is saying that ordinary knickers are uncomfortable as an excuse to get you to buy the thongs which are IMO the most uncomfortable things ever!

what do you suggest i should get her instead, to minimise discomfort

I honestly never heard of someone so young being interested in that sort of garment much less knowing what they are. It's so hard to beleive any parents out there would allow their young ones to wear thongs. I'm not refering to you soviet just parents in general.

I have a dd just turned 10 and I'm trying to keep her a little girl as long as I can.(Within reason of course.) When I say this I mean with things like nylons, makeup, heels, boys etc, etc. Teenage stuff. It cant hurt. I know of several people including someone in my own family who really pushed their children at young ages to grow up with mature things and they had reprecussions in the end. I'd hate to be in their situation when my children are grown teenagers. Not saying all end up with problems but growing up to fast just brings on things sooner then I could handle.

Soviet I think her excuse about 'discomfort' is just that - an excuse. We all wore knickers when we were young, didn't we..? I don't remember having any comfort problems with them!! I definitely would not allow her to wear thongs at her age. You're probably just going to have to be very firm with her about it - good luck.

I wouldn't let a child of that age have thongs, either. (Can you even buy them in such small sizes??) I also think the discomfort is an excuse. Maybe you could check her current undies for rough seams etc and then offer to buy your dd knickers in a larger size, Soviet. Or have a look around for some new knickers that are fashionable but not adult styles. M&S do girls knickers that are more like mini briefs than their fuller granny-pants version, iykwim. HTH.

For comfortable undies the best we have found are the ones Hanna Anderson makes. She has a great web site and you can order her catalogue.....................all very wholesome stuff!!!

Thongs? At 9??? I can't believe she thinks they're more comfortable than ordinary knickers. Part of me thinks buy one for her and let her find that out!

Changing the subject slightly, but I had to share this with you. My 3 1/2 year old dd has just come downstairs with a change of knickers on (after an accident). Only she put them on wrong and got a leg through the waistband somehow resulting in them being worn to one side and looking like something that you might find in an Ann Summers catalogue with everything exposed! She seemed comfortable enough though - strange creature!

I agree with soupdragon,
Buy her one so she can see how b**y uncomfortable they are, personally I'd rather go without !!!

now my 16 year old dd as joined the debate and now she wants to start wareing thongs, but i don't know what to do with her.

The problem is that places like Tammy, New Look, Mark One all sell thongs starting at age 9. My daughter (aged 10) is the opposite - she likes big knickers but they are a problem to find in her age - the best I can find are mini's. My friend's daughter, aged 12, wears thongs, clear-plastic strapped bra's and doesn't have anything to put in them. Saying that, her daughter started her periods last week but I still think she is growing up too fast.

My daughter, on the other hand, is getting "buds" (start of breasts) but will, no way, consider wearing a bra, training bra or anything.

She is also getting "hairs below" - her words, not mine - and is very worried that she is going to start her periods. I just try and explain to her that periods are something that you cannot control when they will start. Her body will reach puberty when it is ready and not before - just hope it is later rather than sooner - she is in year 5 and I think it will be "nicer" for her if she doesn't reach puberty until at least she starts high school.

It's not just underwear though is it? I have seen leather mini-skirts on sale for children as young as 7, high-heeled shoes, boob-tubes, padded bras and so on. The market now knows that children get pocket money from an early age, and are allowed to choose their own clothes, so they have a new market to aim at. They are not particularly bothered about morals, they just exploit the fact that every child (little girls more often) want to dress like their mummies and daddies, and so they will produce clothes accordingly.

I think it is blooming awful that clothes we would describe as sexy (and lets face it, we would only wear thongs if we were trying to pull!) are being made for young children, whilst at the same time there is nationwide outcries against paedophilia. Society cannot think it ok to dress little girls like prostitutes and then complain when men leer after them! I wonder how a parent justifies buying such clothes for their children?

I find it sooo depressing that shops sell such grown up clothes for little girls. I am really shocked (call me naive) that a 9 yr old wants thongs; I would absolutely refuse. My dd is 7 but as tall as a 9/10 year old and it is very hard to get clothes that are right for her age. Shoes in particular, the Clarks ones are so clumpy and ugly and grown up, fine for teenagers but not for a 7 year old but the old fashioned sandals etc stop at size 1 or 2, or less. Luckily Dd gets a lot of handmedowns from friends' daughters and they seem to have the same feelings as me so have done the hard work and sourced the reasonable clothes. But the children talk about whats fashionable and know what they want too, I reckon at lest 4 years before we did 'when I were a lass'. I have tried to make a pointy of never taking dd clothes shopping as I have seen too many very small girls being obsessed with buying this and that, when I would hope that they have afew years to go before they start worrying about their appearance. But I know I'm fighting a losing battle, as it is clearly a common topic of conversation at school. Even among the gorls whose Mums feel like me about it.

is it right for a teacher to have banned thongs in a certain junior school and shoyuld they be banned in any secondary school as well

I can't believe that anyone let alone a 9 yo would want a bit of cheese wire up their arse! well that's how it feels to me anyway!

i know boys bring thier own sets of problems, but reading this really does make me glad I have sons. I would freak if my d wanted to wear a thong. Or short skirt/or tight clothes. But the pressure on girls (and their parents) is enormous. Truly shocking.

I saw a very young girl a few weeks ago in low-slung jeans and a thong, and I just wanted to grab her mother and shake her till she realised what she was turning her daughter into! (Mother dress in similar fashion- not much left to the imagination!)Didn't though, as she was bigger than me and had a fine collection of "sovvy" rings!

I'd support any teacher that banned this sort of inappropriate underwear. I remember when I had to wear regulation grey cotton knickers at school. Very comfy they were too

Can't you remember doing handstands in the school playground? We did and nobody paid a scant bit of attention to the fact that you could see our knickers - because we were kids. But I think it would have been a very different story had we been wearing thongs. No school kid should be wearing them - but especially not junior school children. Jeez - if you're going to send your child to school in a thong why not go the whole hog and kit them out in stockings and suspenders while you're at it?

I agree completely, but how would a school enforce that rule????

I agree completely, but how would a school enforce that rule???? Inspections?

Ooops!

No thongs for school children definitely. Thinking of Willow's message, if a school allows girls to wear thongs they might have to ban them doing handstands.

anais, surely it's easy to for a female teacher or school nurse to do a quick spot check, in private, every now and again if the school has a problem with girls wearing thongs? (boys have to line up to have their testicles checked by a school nurse, to see if they have dropped, don't they?)

All girls would have to do is lift up their skirt for a second - or get them all doing handstands in PE to see if there were any thong wearers.

This thread made me remember a comment a male collaegue once made to me - we are teachers. He was concerned that when taking assemblies and the children sat on the floor cross legged, if girls has short skirts then he could feel quite uncomfortable - all he was faced with was a row of girl's knickers! Imagine how much worse this could be if girls are wearing inappropriate underware too. I really understand where he was coming from. BTW, this is secondary age too.

It seems we just can't get it right want when it comes to underwear at school. My 16yo dd's school sent us a 'school uniform' letter because she was wearing a long sleeved vest under her school blouse, saying it was inappropriate!!! If I hadn't been 8,000 miles away at the time, I'd have been keen to know exactly why they were looking at her underpinnings - would they prefer her to wear a peephole bra??