Are all 2 year old like this?

[fizzbuzz]

Help Please help, dd is driving me nuts.

She will be 2 in July. At them moment has a tantrum/whinge/grizzle about every hour.

e.g Yesterday, wouldn't eat breakfast. Demanded ice cream. I said no. Cue instant tantrum. Took her out of chair, sat her elsewhere and left her to calm down. Next thing she is in the kitchen baging on fridge door screaming ice cream again. I walked out and ignored her...she just carries on and on.

Dinnertime same thing, not about ice cream but something else can't remember what...

Ditto tea time

She bit me the other day when I was freezing outside and I was trying to put her coat on. She also bit me on the knee during the ice cram incidnet when I was trying to get her away from the fridge.

EVERYTHING is a tantrum. I am worn out with it, all day, every day. Naptime, hairbrush time, finished reading story time, throwing drink on floor time.

How long doe it go on for. I read threads on her about 3 year olds, and I can't face another year of this

Hello fizzbuzz,

My dd has been pretty content today - she is sometimes better if we don't do too many things in a day.

I can hear her crying at the moment as she is reluctant to go to sleep.

I had forgotten that you had mentioned in an earlier post that you had a ds.

I am thinking of having another fairly soon - however I did read the thread about things the books don't tell you. I think I will have to stop reading things like that otherwise I'll be scared witless. What is the age gap between yr two children? Does he help you quite alot?

My dd looks far too grubby to be a angelic today!

Anyone else reading this top tips greatly appreciated!

My ds is 14!! Yes he helps a bit, but is too obsessed with his games console.

I can't give advice on age gaps, but I can on personalities. Ds was very placid and rarely tantrummed....

You might have one who was quiet and well-behaved

I have read most of these threads and feel I am around mothers and fathers with much more common sense/patience/intelligece than I. I am having big problems with my ds aged 2.7yrs. Screaming tantrums, biting, nipping, never listening or ignoring and generally fairly constant whining. I am spending at least part of each day alternately telling him off or crying in the bathroom. I really need some help. We were on a flight the other day and had to restrain him to get him to sit with his belt on during turbulence. I am at my wits end and we use naughty step but how does that work on a plane/in the car/at the supermarket? I want to curl up and hide. Called my health visitor twice about some advice 8 and then 4 weeks ago, so far no response. Help...please.

Adding to some really good advice (and sympathies!) - I am inclined to let them feel their emotions a bit. So if dd is cross because she can't do xyz I let her strop on the floor for a bit and say 'oh dear, you are cross aren't you?' or get her to draw a cross picture or make a cross face and then say 'right, shall we go and do something happy now - let's do your puzzle (for example). Mind you, dd is pretty laidback and recovers quickly... fizzbuzz, am dreading ds-to-be being not so chilled... but as a teacher of naughty, naughty teenagers, I do kind of look at dd and think is that all you have? I have LOTS of various strategies from teaching I think - and I do think (teaching and)parenting is a big experiment, in time we work out what works best with different children (but that obv means 'getting it wrong' sometimes - usually in Sainsburys)

Book: How to Talk so Kids will Listen is very very good.

Oh Queenee, I don't have any.... But really feel for you. Hope someone comes along who can help.

HV useless in my opinion

I agree with all that tori said

And totally agree with umlellala - it is good to 'let them feel their emotions'; this tantrumming and fussing is all part of their process of becoming an individual, and learning to govern their feelings. I think as parents we put HUGE pressure on ourselves to deal with this sort of behaviour, eg stop the behaviour.

I think recognising that you can't actually stop it will help you keep calm

And keeping calm is 99% of the battle IME

Don't get tossed on the sea of their emotions; they can't have ice cream just before their dinner; you explain it, they deal with it! obviously you try saying no in a different way as in "yes, have it after dinner" and you try distraction, but once you've tried all reasonable strategies then yes they simply deal with it, even if that means huge tantrums; you can just say "oh, I'm sorry you're feeling so awful", it doesn't have to be in a nasty way....

and I do agree not to fight battles if you can avoid it. Fizz you were saying you said to your DD "eat your dinner"...even that, I would shy away from TBH. Her dinner is placed in front of her, you don't need to tell her to eat it IMO. She will eat if hungry. and if not, then it's away and no more till next meal time. You don't need to get into a debate about it; I tihnk it just gives her an in-road to making demands on you! It's easy for a toddler to get into a pattern of behaviour even with this sort of thing.

Thanks for the messages, HV just called me back and I agree, they are s**t. She called me "mummy" the whole time and basically told me to pull myself together. Although I fully agree that's what may be necessary, I'm not sure I'm in the right place to hear it right now. Am on Amazon to purchase a copy of the recommended book.

Thanks all

"mummy" [barf emoticon]