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baby not saying mama dada, when to worry?

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sabi10 · 20/06/2008 21:32

Hi
just dont know where else to turn to as dh thinks im worrying too much and Gp has tells me he wouldn't be worried unless he was 2.
My lo is 11 and half months old , but was born at 29 weeks prematuely so has a corrected age of 9 months to the day. .He is not saying mama, dadda etc at all which all the books say hes should be now.I am worried sick as a so called friend (whos never actually met my lo)has told me that lack of this at this stage is mostly caused by mental retardation as she phrased it!he is prem so is high risk she tells me.
Hes a very happy little boy ,very alert and into everything, sat up at 6 month corrected. backward crawling, tummy cammando crawling and rolling everywhere.he can get from lying to sitting himself and vice versa, finger feeds(infact demants those organic crispthings when he sees the bag i keep them in), very socaibale and loves peek aboo and pat a cake. in fact the only thing worrying me is his speech.).He says da and ba. He blows rasberries, clicks, imitates coughs. coos alot and does alot of sing song vowel sounds with a few constents .he makes more contsents when he has his fingers in his mouth . Just no constents together yet. like mama or dada. he seems to understands his name, loves nursey rhymes, and puts his hands up to be picked up, claps,and waves bye.
Was not to worried before,just so proud of what hes doing. just thought it might be that he was prem(he had no major problems in nicu),. He also had a bad ear infection 3 months ago and burst his ear drum which has rehealed and his hearing test then was ok. He had started to say da. ba but stopped 2 weeks ago with another ear infection but is restating to say da and boo just today. Can having ear infections in which he hears ok ie turns to his name and laughs at nursey rhymes effect his babbling? he still is pulling his ear but the gp says the ear infection has gone.
The other thing is my parents are spanish and we spend about week a month with them and we speak no english.speak only english to the lo at other times. read somewhere that can delay things. again never thought this would be a problem.
please give me your honest opinons, managed to get an appoint to see the pead in 2 weeks but am driving my self mad by googling mental retardation and speech delay.
excuse the spelling and grammer.
thakinh you so much

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meemar · 20/06/2008 21:36

much too early to worry sabi.

Please don't be upsetting yourself about this

wonderwomanakaeandh · 20/06/2008 21:37

my 2.4 nephew only started speaking odd words recently and my 17month old can say odd words but randomly

I really wouldnt worry

jellybelly25 · 20/06/2008 21:38

Please please stop worrying he sounds totally and utterly fine if he's vocalising then I think that's fine. If he's meeting all the other milestones too then I very much doubt he's retarded at all!

Your friend sounds like she is really tactless so please just try not to talk to her about it. My dd is 13mo and only says mama when she's really upset. She said dada but not mama for ages too. They are all different.

He will probably grow up bilingual if you speak both languages to him regularly which is the most amazing thing, I love listening to kids who can speak two languages, my cousin used to say "merciboucoupthankyou" when everyone else said "ta"!

whomovedmychocolate · 20/06/2008 21:38

DD has only just started reliably saying mama/dada. Though she can say 'bad cat' while wagging her finger very reliably

It's much more likely that he understands everything you are saying and at some point he will just come out with a string of words which will floor you - they may not be words you'd wish he'd picked up either.

Bringing up bilingual kids is a great thing btw, it may slightly delay his speech development but honestly, everything is a foreign language when you start.

He sounds like a normal little boy who's had a few health problems in the past. Your friend sounds like a git though!

snooks · 20/06/2008 21:40

sabi

out of my circle of friends - all intelligent beings with children aged 3-ish plus, only one dd said 'hello' at 12 mths. My ds1 didn't say much til over 2, he is now 3.9 with extensive vocab!

You have absolutely no need to worry xxx

SachaF · 20/06/2008 21:42

My son is the same as sleepycats, in fact has just started saying 'daddy' this week (the week he turns 18 months old) and is trying to make words but I can't regularly understand him as they are all variations on 'da'.
He is very communicative in other ways though, even though he doesn't do sign language, lots of pointing and demanding noises, arms up.
HTH, and stop worrying! (I know, easy to say but tough to do)

littlepinkpixie · 20/06/2008 21:43

Far too early to be worrying about this.
I dont think it is true that delayed speech is mostly due to learning diability, but in any case this isnt delayed speech.
FWIW children who are constantly exposed to two languages do speak later than those only exposed to one, but I dont think that is seen as being anything "bad". I dont know about intermittant exposure to a second language.
Hearing problems can have an effect, you can get referred for audiology assessment if you are concerned (though I think it is FAR too early to do this because of concerns about speech)
I think that your DH and GP are better people to listen to than your friend!

chunkypudding · 20/06/2008 21:43

your 'friend' is a bitch to worry you like that! Milestones vary soooo much from child to child and it sounds like your lo is doing brilliantly!

I read something earlier today that said sometimes babies who are really into the physical side of things and learning as much as they can about ways to get about, sit up etc etc can be less quick with language - just because they are preoccupied with what they are already learning!

Really, really don't worry, you are both doing great and I think I speak for everyone on MN when I say at your thoughtless friend!!!!

{{{big hugs}}}

callmeovercautious · 20/06/2008 21:44

Physically he is way ahead of where my DD was at that age. She is a good talker but did not walk until 16m. Before that she crawled very little and would just sit there!

I worried about it just like you, but it is normal to be good and one thing and take longer with another. If he was not physically strong either you might have cause to worry but he is by the sounds of it.

See your HV just to put your mind at rest.

chunkypudding · 20/06/2008 21:45

ps your ds sounds really lovely xx

wannaBe · 20/06/2008 21:49

there are three things you need to do imo:

  1. bin the books. IMO baby development books are the spawn of satan and do more harm than good as people spend too much time reading them and worrying unnecessarily when their baby doesn't meet the milestones according to the chapter dedicated to it.
  1. Bin your friend. With friends like that who needs enemies.
  1. Stop worrying and enjoy your baby. All babies are different. They all speak when they are ready, and if he is babbling then he is starting to form his first words but these things take time. I honestly can't remember when my ds said his first words, but I'm fairly sure it wasn't before he was a year old (and he was an early talker as had sentences before he was 2). As long as he is developing normally you have nothing to worry about.
wingandprayer · 20/06/2008 21:49

We have year old DS and he not saying anything clearly yet. lots of babbling like you describe. He also had a couple of ear infections and two perforated ear drums. We got refered to have his hearing tested this week and it turns out he has glue ear as a result. Not serious, only low level hearing issues when there's a lot of background noise, but they are keeping an eye on him for future in case it does start to affect his hearing and therefore speech.

I would say don't worry about speech, all sounds normal, but given ear infections definitely ask your doctor to refer you to audiology and get hearing checked, as at least them you know there no other factors which could be involved.

sabi10 · 20/06/2008 21:50

thanks for the replies,feeling better. i gave birth to a baby girl when i was on holiday at 24 weeks 2 years ago. My darling darling daughter was too special to sat with us long and passed away that same day. After the birth of this baby they found out i have weak cervix.i feel so guilty about everything that i keep worrying i will miss something with my little boy.irrational but i cant help it.
my so called friend is tactless and i think im just not speaking to her because she makes me feel shit. had already decided that before i went on line but thanks for giving me clarity.

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chunkypudding · 20/06/2008 22:05

so sorry sabi.

you now have a wonderful little boy who is doing just fine. the guilt is just regret and sadness you have never done anything wrong.

Let yourself be happy with your lovely lo, and enjoy him as sleepycat said - I'm sure he's very happy with his mummy!!! and give the friend a wide birth.

xxx

violetsmile · 20/06/2008 22:12

Sabi, so sorry about your baby girl

I know it must be hard for you, I can't imagine how awful that must have been but you must try and stop feeling guilty. Easier said than done I know but you are doing great and your little boy sounds absolutely fine. He is only 9 months really, don't forget that. Enjoy him, it's far far far too early to worry. My friend's ds never said a single consonant til 13 months, he just oooe'd and ahhh'd but at 18 months he's able to name all of Thomas the tank engine's friends and constantly asks 'whats that?'. He'll be talking before you know it!

Clary · 20/06/2008 22:14

waaaay too early to worry.

He sounds super and progessing well.

Just keep doing the stuff you are, talk to him, read to him, sing nursery rhymes etc etc.

So sorry to hear about yr DD - that makes your concerns understanable but honestly, he sounds great.

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chipmonkey · 20/06/2008 22:20

Hang on, your friend knows that you lost your little girl at 24 weeks, that you have been through the mill with your ds and consequently are inclined to worry about the little things, and she still goes on like that????

Sabi, you really don't need friends like that!

btw your ds sounds perfectly normal, even advanced for 9 months corrected. Also, always go by the corrected age till they are 4.6.

jellybelly25 · 20/06/2008 22:31

You know what, even if he was retarded he'd still be the most precious thing in the world to you, and bollocks to your friend and anyone else who makes you feel shit.

He's fine, you're fine, your little girl is happy wherever she may be, and you haven't done ANYTHING to feel bad about, so stop it.

beansontoast · 20/06/2008 22:32

guess what im going to say?

please please rest assured that your little one has lots and lots of skills (adoringly listed by you) that suggest that he is a bright and NORMALLY DEVELOPING little boy...he is as bright as a button...and will prob start speaking at his own pace....

those guidelines are useful....but bad for your health when you focus in on one thing!...move away from google!

dont worry about exposing him to two languages...he will thank you for it later

leave google alone....consciously focus on all the cute and wonderful things he does

EBenes · 20/06/2008 22:42

My daughter started saying Mum/Mummy for the first time at about 15 months! She had said dad quite a bit before that, but not really definitely, like she could have been saying anything, until quite late. And yes, the mama/mummy thing seems to be literally the last word they learn - I have friends who said the same - maybe because they think of you as not separate from them. At 18 months she has a pretty big vocabulary, but at 12 months I don't think she had ANYTHING! So sorry to hear about your baby girl.

worley · 20/06/2008 23:04

please listen to us here and not your "friend". ds1 didnt say anything till he was 2.5yrs where as ds2 is 1.11yrs and doesnt stop talking, he has lots of words he knows and can pronounce in his own way.

if i had of had ds2 first then ds1 i would have been worring and comparing him to his brother, and worrying that he was never gonna talk either, but he did talk in his own time and is absolutley fine.
each to their own, he will do things in his own time!!