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can i have a checklist of reasons babymonster is crying please?

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BlueDragonfly · 09/06/2008 17:28

because i can't figure it out and its starting to stress me out

he is fed
changed
not too hot
not too cold
no stomach pain (its not hard anyway)
not obvioulsy teething although i have put bonjela on just in case
he doesn't want his dummy
doesn't want to sat up
doesn't want to be lay down

what else??!!

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Meandmyjoe · 09/06/2008 20:32

To be honest, in this weather I would give water. He may be thirsty but not hungry. In the heat, babies and adults tend to eat less but drink more. Only offer him it if it is hot or if you have tried everything else. Cooled boiled water will not harm him. From what you say though, this seems to have been going on for a few days so thirst may not be the problem. How is he sleeping?

BlueDragonfly · 09/06/2008 20:35

he has just started sleeping from 9ish right thru until 3/4am, takes him a little while to settle for a sleep in the day (any sleep)

today he has been pulling at the breast alot rather than feeding (and i had offered him the breast when he was screaming earlier but he didn't want it) so it probably is him being hungry/thirsty but being fussy too

its only the last couple of days he has started having screaming episodes. Its usually in the evenings though so i had put it down to being possibly colic.

It always feels better to have something blame i think

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StarlightMcKenzie · 09/06/2008 20:36

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BlueDragonfly · 09/06/2008 20:38

sorry SM, i guess i wasn't clear enough in my OP. when i said that he was fed, it was that he had not long since been breast fed and had taken himself off seemingly satisfied

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BlueDragonfly · 09/06/2008 20:47

on demand

every 2 hours (ish)

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Meandmyjoe · 09/06/2008 20:47

Well, it won't harm him and offering him a few sips of water will not interfere with anything. Her boobs won't know that he's had a bit of water and providing she keeps offering him the breast on demand (as she stated every 2 hours) then it is not going to ruin anything. Obviously, don't offer him water every time he cries but I've done it and my breasts still made milk and my baby was still well fed. I know the books say that babies don't NEED water if they are being breast fed but if she has tried everything else then I fail to see what harm offering him it will do.

StarlightMcKenzie · 09/06/2008 20:50

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BlueDragonfly · 09/06/2008 20:52

he had fed not long before, why would i automatically think to bf again?

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Meandmyjoe · 09/06/2008 21:00

OK starlight, you seem to have a need to 'win'. I submit. You are a better mother than me and evidently have a far more superior knowledge on everything. Happy?

I was just offering advice to Bluedragonfly. She has made sure her baby is well fed so at this stage of crying (where desperation has set in!) I would try anything that wouldn't harm him in order to settle him.

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BlueDragonfly · 09/06/2008 21:15

he is pretty good at getting his wind up but i think it was more the fact that he wasn't used to being like that on my lap. Anyway, he stopped (don't know why), i didn't know to feed him again almost straight after he came away satisfied, i also didn't know that giving water to a bf baby was a bad thing to do. I do know that i am more confused than i was but at least he isn't crying (in fact i dare not move him even though he is fast asleep in his bouncy chair)

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MsDemeanor · 09/06/2008 21:26

Because he's a 14 week old baby, and that's what they do, until they grow out of it. Well, that's my experience.

merryberry · 09/06/2008 21:35

my 12 wk old pulls my nipple (longer than i would have hoped was possible) when he has trapped wind, winding himfor another 5 minutes ++ until a burp comes up from seeming nowhere gets him back on the breast and settled off it. i really hope this might help you and your baby

blueshoes · 09/06/2008 21:41

Bluedragonfly: "he had fed not long before, why would i automatically think to bf again?".

Both my dcs liked to comfort feed. In fact, the first thing I'd do when my dcs cry is to offer the breast, even if it was 5 minutes ago. I could offer the breast many times an hour, if my dcs were particularly unsettled.

In this heat, I take a hand fan (you know those Spanish ones which open up) and fan ds - he likes that and it distracts him.

merryberry · 09/06/2008 21:41

oooh god how daft of me not to mention it's all part and parcel of his having/had silent reflux too - he was swallowing the posset he was trying to bring up giving himself double trouble with burning stomach acids - so had a permanent sore throat. almost wholly cured by infant gaviscon. his crying and inability to settle comes back if he doesn't have at least a dose a day. absolute bugger to get the stuff in him though.

WonderingWhy · 09/06/2008 21:42

Mine did this a few times, during the first few months - just crying for maybe half an hour, for no discernable reason - I just kept moving, went outside, bounced him against my shoulder a lot in case it was wind, swung him low in my arms, like bending from the waist, cradling/swinging him - the G force can help them I think, it stopped mine a good few times.

He is placid as a rock usually but there were just those few times, it was really odd.

BlueDragonfly · 09/06/2008 21:47

now i feel incredibly stupid that i didn't know to do the simplest thing. he isn't normally a comfort feeder (although he was when he was first born but it only lasted about 3 weeks)

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tori32 · 09/06/2008 21:53

Sounds identical to my dd2 11wks when she has trapped wind. I tend to bob her up and down or lie her across my knee or lay her down for a few minutes even crying, then quickly sit her up. After a big burp I found that she quite often wants to feed again as she has cleared space iyswim. HTH I agree with posters who say give extra bf not water btw.

merryberry · 09/06/2008 21:56

wonderingwhy am sitting here smiling at a mentalimage of baby strapped into a g force machine like in james bond...

WonderingWhy · 09/06/2008 22:00

Merry I did wonder why the HV got that odd glazed look, she said maybe he was a bit young...

Bluedragonfly, really, really don't feel stupid - I'm not sure that is the answer, of course it would be your first instinct to try feeding, but if baby isn't interested in your breast it is usually for a good reason.

When mine did this crying thing, of course I offered milk but he pushed it away and cried even more - I guess it was a stomach ache or similar, sometimes it isn't easily solved like with a burp etc, if the wind is trapped lower down.

If baby wants to suckle for comfort of course let him but don't worry if he refuses it, it's prob something else wrong

WonderingWhy · 09/06/2008 22:05

'today he has been pulling at the breast alot rather than feeding (and i had offered him the breast when he was screaming earlier but he didn't want it) so it probably is him being hungry/thirsty but being fussy too'

You see, you had offered the breast. So no need for anyone to argue over that.

Fussy just means he didn't want it, for whatever reason - I believe in going with that, generally. Last thing I would want if I had trapped wind is more milk on top of it.

So please don't mistrust him or yourself. You are doing a fab job I hate to see you saying you feel stupid