I am at a loss at how to deal with DS3's bedwetting - I'm pretty sure we are doing all the right stuff - any ideas?

[MehgaLegs]

DS3 is 4.7. He is totally dry and clean in the day and has been for over 2 years.

He still wets the bed nearly every night.

He does not drink after 5 and has only water after school (was told milk and juice can irritate the bladder and cause bed wetting)

He drinks well in the day. School drink bottle always empty.

Wees last thing before getting into bed.

We lift him at 9.30 - 10ish but often he is already wet, not just wet but soaked.

If not wet and we lift him he does a massive pee in loo without really waking.

Most days he will wake up wet, soaked, often two stains on the sheet which would indicate he has weed twice. Very strong smell.

Last night I mistakenly took him for a wee at 12 not realising DH who'd gone up early had already done it at 10.

He was dry this morning.

Don't want to go back to pull ups/pj pants as they aggravate his eczema and the itching keeps him awake. Also psychologically a step backwards IMO. Can't spend all night lifting him at two hourly intervals

Any ideas?

A few weeks ago we visited a special enuresis (sp?) at the local hospital. The doctor referred us, but they won't do that until the child is 7 years old.

Prior to that we used to layer up sheets and bed mats and just whip off the top sheet and mat and then chuck him back to bed. We also have to keep spare duvets made up in case that got wet too. We have an alarm and it worked quite well but we have to keep returning to it. Got a lot of good advice from here www.dri-sleeper.com/

mehgalegs, my DS is 6 in May and is still wet every night (we had three dry nights in a row last week and thought he'd cracked it, but alas no). He wsa mostly dry bar the odd accident before he started school in Sep 06, but since then it has been every night. He is always really tired after school and a heavy sleeper and I think he's just not waking up.

I spoke to the doc who said they wouldn't do anything before seven and that it's probably to do with him not producing the hormone that supresses urine at night. You can get a hormone nasal spray (a GP friend of mine mentioned it) but I don't know if this is available on the NHS.

I do know that it's not unusual for boys to bedwet much much later then girls (and the fact that sainsbury's are always out of age 4-7 huggies boys pj pants backs this up!), but that it usually resolves itself by the age of seven.

Please......have you read all these messages! these children are still babies really as much as you dont want them to be....."mine was dry at 2 mine was dry at 3" but really what's emerging is that our children aren't ready to be dry at night until a lot older it's us adults that want them to be.Pull ups are there for a reason wether their 4,5,6,7,8, they will be dry when they're ready and not before.Mums dont make an issue of "being a big boy if you dont wear pull up's"It's often us mums that try and make them dry at night before the child is ready.Lifting them twice a night!get a pull- up on and all of you get a good night sleep they'll do it when they're good and ready!

Hi. My ds is 4.4, he is still wet most nights. We always put him in pull ups. I would find it really tiring to get out of bed and pop him on the loo. Even though dd wakes me up regularly at night!! This thread is very reassuring; that it takes time. I never get cross with him, even though sheets get wiffy and the washing and changing is tedious.

The reason I lift my daughter totsjunction, is because she doesnt want to wear pull ups anymore, she says they are for babies.
I have no problems with pull ups, or indeed with her not being night dry yet(7yo).
I totally agree- she is just not ready.
As for restricting drinks, isnt that a bit cruel?
My dd has dancing class 3 evenings, how can I not allow fluids after that ?

It's really important that you don't restrict fluids, so long as it's only water. If you do, the pee gets more concentrated, irritated the bladder and makes wetting more likely. Look here for useful stuff