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HELP... Freaked out and worried new mum having emotional meltdown...

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designerbaby · 29/11/2007 18:48

... And I KNOW I really have no right/reason to be.

Gave birth to a ridiculously healthy 9lb 8oz baby girl almost 3 weeks ago. She seemed to get the hang of feeding pretty quickly, and I've had very little pain/discomfort breastfeeding. She only lost 100g of her birthweight in the first 3 days, and had regained it all plus an extra 2 oz by day 5. When last weighed (at 2 1/2 weeks) she was 10lbs 4oz, and has visibly grown. All this is GOOD, right?

But in the last couple of days I seems to have lost the plot.

During the day she's regular as clockwork and wakes up wanting food about every 3 1/2 to 4 hours, but she only feeds for about 10-15 minutes at a time. After this she shuts her little mouth firmly shut and will have no more. NO amount of burping/nappy changing offering second breast will coax her into taking more. Her poos have gone from yellow to greenish and very watery, and I'm worried this means she's not getting enough hind milk because of hr short feeds.

However, our evenings spiral into chaos confusion and tears on all sides... from anywhere between 6 and 8pm (depending on when the last feed happens in that time) she is impossible to settle. She is usually awake and distressed from that point until between 2 and 4 am. She seems to want to feed every 1 1/2 to 2 hours during that time (which would be fine by me if she would settle in between) but then sucks for only about 5 minutes before starting to scream and thrash around wildly. I'll try burping her and changing her and cuddling to try and get her to calm down. I've tried swaddling and sitting in a dark room in case she was over-stimulated. At some point she usually gets the hiccups which can last for up to half an hour. Then I figured that maybe my milk supply was low, so I tried preparing a bottle of formula - you would have thought I'd tried to give her bleach - she screamed even louder and thrashed about even more. Eventually I think sheer exhaustion takes over from having cried and thrashed about for anything up to 8 hours and she falls asleep.

I then have to wake her in the morning (left it until 9am this morning after a 2am finish) as she's dead to the world, for fear that she'll sleep through the day and not want to go to sleep (again) at night.

I've been using Infacol for the past couple of days in the hope that this is caused by wind, and although she burps better and farts more, the distress is still happening.

We have no resemblance of a routine... I'm worried we're setting ourselves up for months of this. I feel completely out of control and helpless - I don't know what's upsetting her or what to do to calm her down.

I've been trying to write this for most of the day - today it has all started again after feeding her at 4pm - I've just managed to get her down now after another feed at 6 and 45 minutes of walking her around the house. She's still restless though, and I doubt I'll have much down time before it starts again.

I've spent most of today in tears, feel completely exhausted - more from the emotional tension as from lack of sleep. My back is killing me from walking her around the house and I feel sick with worry and dread of another 8 hours of it this evening...

ANY ideas out there? I don't know how many more evenings/nights of this I can cope with... It's not the sleep (I can manage without) it's the 6-8 hours of distress and crying I can't cope with.

Help...

DB
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designerbaby · 01/12/2007 17:45

Hi all,
Last night was better - she was ratty between about 4pm and 11.30pm - but not the all-out screaming and thrashing we've been having. Then she slept until 3.30am, fed, went straight back to sleep and then woke this morning at 6.30.

We'll have to see if it continues... but so many of your suggestions helped a bit, I think - more daytime stimulation - I had some visitors which helped, infacol before each feed, waking her up to feed every 3 hours during the day, and she fed pretty much every hour and a half between about 6 and 11...

She's still only feeding for about 10 minutes a time, but her poos are back to yellow and she seems to be picking up weight fine, so I'm just hoping I just have an "efficient feeder"... (any experience of whether this could be the case?) Boob seems pretty drained after each feed ? I've taken to nappy changing after the feed to wake her up to see if she'll take more, but rarely will she have any more than anothwer couple of minutes...

Let's hope we can have another good night tonight and that last night wasn't just a 'blip'.

We're going to attempt a bath before her next feed at about 7.30 - heaven help us...

DB
xx

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designerbaby · 01/12/2007 17:57

Hi Fingerbobs - don't worry about the hi-jack ? the more the (not very) merrier, I say...

If all else fails a nappy change will usually wakes ours up - albeit with some screaming involved...

DB
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MadamePlatypus · 01/12/2007 18:50

It sounds as though she is definitely getting enough milk designerbaby.

I used to find a nappy change before swapping sides particularly useful for night feeds for DS - it made him awake enough to take on more milk. Didn't work so well for DD who had her own agenda - but she settled at night at around 10 weeks (with help of swadling etc. etc.)

foxythesnowman · 01/12/2007 19:06

Just skimmed through your thread but wanted so say it really does pass, things change at about the 6 week mark as has already been said.

If it helps, I play to their tune for the first 6 weeks, (I've watched alot of UK Gold in my time). And can you bathe together? My lo loves it (she's 4 months now). A sling is great and also if you can borrow one, a swing might help the colic. Apparently the motion helps.

Things change over time, every 6 weeks IME. Also try to stay positive, just take it one day at a time and look after yourself. You sound like you are doing a great job.

CatIsSleepy · 01/12/2007 19:29

db sounds like things might be improving a little, that's good
re baths-can recommend the bucket style of bath- my dd loved it when nothing else in life seemed to make her happy...but as others have said no need to bathe every day-all the undressing/dressing can get them really riled up...

we didn't get into a good routine til about 8 or 9 weeks I htink

cranial osteopathy seemed to help

things generally take a turn for the better after 8 weeks or so though that's probably not much consolation for you at this stage...

scouserabroad · 01/12/2007 20:31

I haven't got really got anything to add that hasn't already been said... so will just say good luck My DD2 is 2 months old & also only feeds for 10 - 15 minutes, & has done from birth. DD1 was the same & I kept trying to get her to take more milk but she never would, so I gave up in the end & she developed fine, never been ill etc. I guess I'm just trying to say don't worry

BTW DD2 used to cry every evening from 7 to about midnight - 1 a.m, but around 6 weeks the crying gradually got less and less, until now when she's still awake for most of the evening, but doesn't cry any more than she does during the day.

georgiemama · 01/12/2007 20:35

When my DS seemed distressed for no apparent reason at this age I would let him have a kick about with no nappy on - babies seem to love having their bits on show! With regard to baths, could you or DH bath in the big bath with the baby - my DH used to do this as DS screamed blue murder in his baby bath until he was about 3 months old, he liked being in with daddy though.

Also to stimulate to feed I would suggest stripping baby down to vest - don't want her to get cold obviously but it does seem to make them more alert.

designerbaby · 01/12/2007 21:03

You guys are so fab... thanks sooooo much for all your advice - I feel a lot calmer, even though I realise it may take a few weeks for things to become a bit more sane...

Having said that we just had a bath with NO CRYING!!!??? She fed both before and after for about 10 minutes each time and I've just put her to bed... we'll see if she'll settle...

Fingers/legs/eyes/everything crossed...

And big hugs to all

DB
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Fingerbobs · 02/12/2007 12:24

Thanks designer baby - hope you had a better night. Bath with no crying, what an achievement, we're some way off that milestone! I'm sure I also have an efficient feeder; he's never in his short life fed longer than 15 mins and it's usually more like 8-10; I've never had any pain either (perhaps because they're not suckling away for hours?) I keep thinking so long as weight's going on it's 'just' a case of waiting it out...
It is really good to know I'm not alone though. Thinking of you at 3am!
xxx

luckyleelj · 03/12/2007 18:39

Hi, I know this has been mentioned previously but I too stuck to a routine from day one. like stated before it works for some and not for others.
I found it made the day run a bit smoother to begin with as DS knew where he was and I knew what to do next.
I too went to see a crainal osteopathy as Ds cryed every time I put him down... It did work I think, seemed to put my mind at rest and make me aware of what they go through when we give birth to them.
I know my friend went through a similar time like you at the moment and she also breast fed but her DS suffered from colic so she started to express and feed him through Dr Browns bottles which takes the air out of the bottle, this worked a treat.
You will read all the best advice in the world from everyone as at the end of the day all wants to help but only you know your baby. You will soon start to learn what the differant cry's mean and then you will feel more in controll.
It does I promise get easier and I know what you mean re the crying as it's so distressing on you, just try and remember this is not forever!!
good luck, please let us know how you get on . x

ChocolateHobnob · 04/12/2007 10:58

Hi DB

I had DD a few days after you, she was a lot smaller (6 lb 13) but has grown massively!

Just wanted to say she isnt a cryer yet thank God but also she is a nightmare in the evening like yours! Not thrashing but screaming and wanting feeding a lot whereas she goes 3 hours through the day/night. She feeds for 15-25 minutes depending, and also has a lot of wind - sometimes it takes an eternity to get it out! Also DD only sleeps 8 hours in total a day which is a bit of a mare.

But I do have a novice tip - a Hugabub! Someone recommended them on the Oct postnatal thread, they're 50 quid but it works so well! DD yells when she's put in it but if you walk up and downstairs twice she is calmed completely. I honestly find it a lifesaver... Also I recommend the swaddling blanket from mothercare - DD is a bit of a wriggler and wakes herself as she falls asleep and then won't sleep - swaddling works well and this particular 'miracle blanket' isnt too hot and feels v safe.

Good luck DB and we're all with you!

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planningahead · 05/12/2007 08:30

You might be against using a bottle but the Gina Ford method really worked for me - pump after first morning feed when your supply is high and baby's not drinking your boobs dry, and feed that to baby before bedtime. It calmed her down, and she learned to drink from both boob and bottle. Later I would pump a bottle full at 10pm and dh would wake dd for 11pm feed, allowing me to get some kip. I also stuck to Gina's routine as far as possible, it really worked for us.
Good luck

akimbu · 15/02/2009 14:00

hi there, OMG I so know what you are going thru' :-) Sometimes I thought I was the only mum in the world with the worst crying baby ever. We ended using Dentinox but she used to scream when I came near with the pipette and it broke my heart to give it to her but it worked better than infacol or gripe water.

In the end CRANIAL OSTEOPATHY SOLVED EVERYTHING!!! She's had 4 sessions - some with a private guy near where I live (E2) and some at the CHILDREN'S CENTRE FOR OSTEOPATHY in Clerkenwell, EC1R. THis is a lovely place where they treat mums too esp is birth has been a bit traumatic for both. Sounds like yours was. It is on donation only basis so pay what you can afford. I CAN'T RECOMMEND THIS ENOUGH.

And please don't give yourself a hard time and for G's sake Don't Even Think About a Routine when she is so wee. BABIES FIND THEIR OWN RHYTHM AND DEVELOP MUCH MORE PEACEFULLY. Good luck xx

starkadder · 15/02/2009 18:06

Hi there

I think everyone has given you some brilliant advice. The only other thing I thought might be relevant (& am not sure if this was said already) is that it DOES get better after 6 weeks but, in my experience, it kind of got worse and worse TILL then...don't want to be depressing, but I remember that I had heard that 6 weeks was the "magic " point and so was a bit demoralised when our baby seemed to be crying more and more up to that point - felt like we were going in the wrong direction - but I then read somewhere that this is par for the course - 6 weeks is the "peak" of crying and after that all starts getting much easier :-)

Good luck, sounds like you are doing a really good job

Northernlurker · 15/02/2009 18:09

errrr ladies - lovely of you to post and all - but this baby is now about 16 months old....

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starkadder · 16/02/2009 20:37

haha! Very funny. Hope he has settled down now at least...!

designerbaby · 17/02/2009 19:30

Hello - nice that you posted though - DD went on to remain a pain in the arse about feeding of any kind until about 8 months old, but now she eats anything which isn't nailed down...

She's a delightful little thing now, and goes to sleep beautifully...

Goodness, I was right stress-head wasn't I!? (yeah, and like ANYTHING has changed there... )

You're all lovely though, and totally saved my sanity in those early weeks FWIW.

db
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starkadder · 18/02/2009 19:35

I think this is a lovely thread, actually, which gives hope to us all....nice to be able to skip to several months later and everything is OK :-)

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